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SithLord

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This is appalling.

If I understand correctly from the video, this man had a job and a lease in Manitoba at the time of his landing, but this proof didn’t suffice, did it? Since he purchased a return ticket from Germany to Calgary (to save on airfare) and decided to drive from Alberta to Manitoba (again, to save on airfare). I’m surprised that his job and lease in Manitoba weren’t enough to convince the landing officer. So sad :(

This only proves that everyone should be extra careful with his or her landing plans, especially as a PNP candidate landing in a different province or FSW candidate landing in Quebec, and make the plan as simple and smooth as possible. Nothing conspicuous. Better safe than sorry.
The guy was a PNP candidate and should have never decided to drive to Manitoba from Alberta in the first place. It was a very poor decision. He should have just paid the extra money for airfare and should have flown from Calgary to Winnipeg instead. Should never take risks in such cases, it is one time expense.
 

gmehta

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Calling out to people from India with an expired COPR in the group. Any thoughts on what we do now, raise ready to travel form, wait and watch? This delay is so frustrating. I have resigned from my job and already in the winding up process. Any news on when NDVO will resume services?
 

kpatel1988

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Jun 16, 2020
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This is an interesting topic, which I didn't know about. I applied through the express entry pool and the point of entry on my COPR was toronto. My COPR expired and I had applied for an extension but that is another story.

My question is, can I land straight into Winnipeg if I have an express entry COPR or do I have to go to the port written in my COPR. I have a second uncle in Winnipeg, hence had chosen to go there.
 

pkhare23

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Calling out to people from India with an expired COPR in the group. Any thoughts on what we do now, raise ready to travel form, wait and watch? This delay is so frustrating. I have resigned from my job and already in the winding up process. Any news on when NDVO will resume services?
NDVO may resume its services only after 31st July once travel restrictions are lifted.
 

kpatel1988

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Calling out to people from India with an expired COPR in the group. Any thoughts on what we do now, raise ready to travel form, wait and watch? This delay is so frustrating. I have resigned from my job and already in the winding up process. Any news on when NDVO will resume services?
Same boat, brother! I had a gut feeling that things were going to go bad and considered making the move early but I had to serve the last week of my notice period and that's when the lockdown started.
 

pkhare23

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This is an interesting topic, which I didn't know about. I applied through the express entry pool and the point of entry on my COPR was toronto. My COPR expired and I had applied for an extension but that is another story.

My question is, can I land straight into Winnipeg if I have an express entry COPR or do I have to go to the port written in my COPR. I have a second uncle in Winnipeg, hence had chosen to go there.
If you have applied under EE FSW category and your city of destination / point of entry is Toronto you can land in Winnipeg. Just don't go through Quebec. There are threads on this forum where people's destination was Vancouver and they landed in Toronto and vice versa.

The problem arises only if you are PNP applicant.
 
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kpatel1988

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If you have applied under EE FSW category and your city of destination / point of entry is Toronto you can land in Winnipeg. Just don't go through Quebec. There are threads on this forum where people's destination was Vancouver and they landed in Toronto and vice versa.

The problem arises only if you are PNP applicant.
Thank you sir! This removes one worry, now the only question is when I will be able to land :)
 

dashing_warrior

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Jul 2, 2019
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Pardon me? I do not agree to waste my Co-PR simply because I don’t have a job offer.
I have spent a lot of time and money for this project.
And I disagree with people who say they will get an automatic extension of their Co-PR. The case will be resumed and noone knows what will happen next. It’s a grey area and the website does not say that you will 100% receive your visa!!

For people who can’t find job in their field, can’t you try something more simple in a different area? At least you will provide for your family, while looking for a job you want.
I agree with the second paragraph and can’t stress it enough.

I have a story to share. I don’t want to spread panic in this thread, but you should hear this. Back in March, after the ban was announced, I got a reply from my VO saying that my COPR wouldn’t be extended because I had had “more than enough time to land“. Of course, it might have been a mistake on their part due to the nature of the events that were rapidly unfolding at the time, but once I got this email I was in utter shock. How come, IRCC being so unfair! I stayed up all night, luckily managed to book my 4th ticket to Canada (all the others had been cancelled or were scheduled for after the ban was coming into effect), urgently skipped work - and landed in Canada about 36hrs later.

My point is, if you can land now - do travel. If you can’t, then in the best case scenario IRCC will re-issue your CoPR. However, I wouldn’t take all this for granted... be wiser than this. Again, this was only my experience, but you never know what IRCC might do in any particular case.

All depends on your personal situation and priorities, but my No.1 priority at that time was my immigration. I wasn’t worried about money or my job, but that I might lose a unique opportunity to make Canada my new home .

P.S. After the email above I submitted two more webforms to IRCC. The replies now said I should get in touch again “when the situation stabilizes”. Nothing promising me a new CoPR, but not a blank rejection either.

Hope everyone in this thread reaches Canada sooner or later. Keep monitoring those flights, and, I repeat, don’t take anything for granted.
 

SithLord

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Now the United Airlines have restarted their charter flights between India-US it's in the open that AI has been extorting money from its customers. Now the AI flight prices have been reduced by 20-30% as per this article.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/the-fare-dilemma-uniteds-flights-from-delhi-put-spotlight-on-air-indias-vande-bharat-ticket-price-5511281.html/amp
We already knew AI was extorting money in the name of vande bharat mission.

Last month, there was an article in Australia where many stranded Indian students complained that AI was charging 2 lakhs when they paid less than 1 lakh to arrive in Australia. Many of these students had taken loans to come to Australia and paying 2 lakhs when they have no jobs puts more burden on their low-income parents. They reported to Department of Home Affairs to deport them instead because there is no way they would pay AI such exuberant rates when they can't pay even for food and housing.

Shame on our government for being money minded in this crisis!!! They have already been severely criticised by expats!! Lot of countries had already criticized them for starting their extradition flights in late May when most of other countries started theirs in April.
 
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BillyWescott

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I agree with the second paragraph and can’t stress it enough.

I have a story to share. I don’t want to spread panic in this thread, but you should hear this. Back in March, after the ban was announced, I got a reply from my VO saying that my COPR wouldn’t be extended because I had had “more than enough time to land“. Of course, it might have been a mistake on their part due to the nature of the events that were rapidly unfolding at the time, but once I got this email I was in utter shock. How come, IRCC being so unfair! I stayed up all night, luckily managed to book my 4th ticket to Canada (all the others had been cancelled or were scheduled for after the ban was coming into effect), urgently skipped work - and landed in Canada about 36hrs later.

My point is, if you can land now - do travel. If you can’t, then in the best case scenario IRCC will re-issue your CoPR. However, I wouldn’t take all this for granted... be wiser than this. Again, this was only my experience, but you never know what IRCC might do in any particular case.

All depends on your personal situation and priorities, but my No.1 priority at that time was my immigration. I wasn’t worried about money or my job, but that I might lose a unique opportunity to make Canada my new home .

P.S. After the email above I submitted two more webforms to IRCC. The replies now said I should get in touch again “when the situation stabilizes”. Nothing promising me a new CoPR, but not a blank rejection either.

Hope everyone in this thread reaches Canada sooner or later. Keep monitoring those flights, and, I repeat, don’t take anything for granted.
Bloody hell. Creepy testimony. That was a close call for you. That's also one of the things that have been bothering me a lot, like in our misfortune they could say "hey you got 6 months to land and you didn't do anything about".

But some other folks got an email from IRCC stating that their COPR wouldn't be cancelled because they weren't able to land. And the IRCC also published "guidelines" re. COPR extension clearly stating "unability" or "unwillingness" to travel. But agreed that nowhere do they guarantee that the COPRs will be extended. Ultimately they can decide whatever they want.
 

turbomau5

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I agree with the second paragraph and can’t stress it enough.

I have a story to share. I don’t want to spread panic in this thread, but you should hear this. Back in March, after the ban was announced, I got a reply from my VO saying that my COPR wouldn’t be extended because I had had “more than enough time to land“. Of course, it might have been a mistake on their part due to the nature of the events that were rapidly unfolding at the time, but once I got this email I was in utter shock. How come, IRCC being so unfair! I stayed up all night, luckily managed to book my 4th ticket to Canada (all the others had been cancelled or were scheduled for after the ban was coming into effect), urgently skipped work - and landed in Canada about 36hrs later.

My point is, if you can land now - do travel. If you can’t, then in the best case scenario IRCC will re-issue your CoPR. However, I wouldn’t take all this for granted... be wiser than this. Again, this was only my experience, but you never know what IRCC might do in any particular case.

All depends on your personal situation and priorities, but my No.1 priority at that time was my immigration. I wasn’t worried about money or my job, but that I might lose a unique opportunity to make Canada my new home .

P.S. After the email above I submitted two more webforms to IRCC. The replies now said I should get in touch again “when the situation stabilizes”. Nothing promising me a new CoPR, but not a blank rejection either.

Hope everyone in this thread reaches Canada sooner or later. Keep monitoring those flights, and, I repeat, don’t take anything for granted.
Can you please share your COPR issued date and expiration date. Helps to know what IRCC considers more than enough time. Thank you.
 

dashing_warrior

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Jul 2, 2019
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Can you please share your COPR issued date and expiration date. Helps to know what IRCC considers more than enough time. Thank you.
I won’t share the exact dates, but we had 6+ months to land. That’s what the VO said. They didn’t care that we originally planned to land within that timeframe. As for expiry, we had around 1 month left on our CoPRs at the time of landing.
 

dashing_warrior

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Jul 2, 2019
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Bloody hell. Creepy testimony. That was a close call for you. That's also one of the things that have been bothering me a lot, like in our misfortune they could say "hey you got 6 months to land and you didn't do anything about".

But some other folks got an email from IRCC stating that their COPR wouldn't be cancelled because they weren't able to land. And the IRCC also published "guidelines" re. COPR extension clearly stating "unability" or "unwillingness" to travel. But agreed that nowhere do they guarantee that the COPRs will be extended. Ultimately they can decide whatever they want.
I’m pretty confident that 99% of people with expired CoPR will get extensions. However, the way I see it, unfortunately there are no guarantees even if they say that no application will be rejected due to inability to land on time.

I will never know if the rejection to extend my CoPR would’ve been final or not. I guess it depends on the assessment of each individual case and an immigration officer’s reasoning - just like at landing.
 
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