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So my [Indian] boyfriend and I [Canadian Citizen by birth] have been in a relationship (we are both male) since the beginning of April this year. He was in Canada on a student visa doing a program. The earliest proof we have is of a CD that he made me at the end of April... The CD has a created date when its played on my laptop. We never thought this would turn into something so serious so we never kept any previous emails. After that we have proof of a few photos in Canada. We have also been in trouble 3 times for sitting in my car in parking lots but that's because we has no where else to go, so I'm assuming there's records because the cops took our ID information. About 4 months later he left to go back to India because his parents wanted him to come home. We stayed in contact everyday but only using free things like Whatsapp, Viber, Skype and Facebook. 5.5 weeks after he left I came to India to visit him for 6 weeks. We travelled around in his state where he lives. We have pictures of all the things we did together and we have a few pictures of us laying together. I was introduced to his family and friends as his [straight] friend from Canada seeing as Indians are not accepting of homosexuality. I would love to go back there until we can be together in Canada but that's tough financially unless there was any way for me to make an income in India. I have a few friends that know everything about us and some family members that know the basics about us. So now we are in a long-distance relationship and we talk every single day (all day) using Skype and Whatsapp. I guess our only option is to wait until April and apply? So is it even possible for us to ever be together again? I've seen a lot about conjugal partners being rejected so now we are both very scared. There is no way for him to come back to Canada because he has no job experience so he cannot get a job through an LMO and there is no way of me supporting him financially at the moment unless we wait 5/6 years until I am finished university. We meet all of the requirements such as clean criminal records, 18 years old, medicals etc. Any information would be very helpful... Thank you!!!
 

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In all i've read on conjugal apps... there are no barriers preventing you from living together for 12 months, or him coming to Canada so you can get married. CIC does not see financial reasons or the ability to work as a barrier.

So i think your only 2 options would be to get married and then apply, or spend 12 months together (could be 6 months here and 6 months there) to apply as common-law.
 

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The Indian boyfriend may not be able to get a visa to come to Canada. You could get a visa to go to India, though. Could you try to save up enough money to go live in India for a year? Or try to get some kind of online work you could do there?
For conjugal you would have to show you two cannot live together - if he applies for a TRV to Canada and is refused, that is one part of the proof. If you could go to India, though, CIC will expect you to. As well, for conjugal you will have to prove you have joined your lives like a married couple would - joined finances or you supporting him, something like that.
If you could both go to a third country that allows same-sex marriage and get married, you could sponsor him right away.

You will need proof of communication. You can get a call history from Skype. From now on, try to only communicate using methods where you can get a record: email; Skype; some calling card companies will give you a record (but most won't); even if it is more expensive, nothing beats a landline; letters.
 

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canadianwoman said:
The Indian boyfriend may not be able to get a visa to come to Canada. You could get a visa to go to India, though. Could you try to save up enough money to go live in India for a year? Or try to get some kind of online work you could do there?
For conjugal you would have to show you two cannot live together - if he applies for a TRV to Canada and is refused, that is one part of the proof. If you could go to India, though, CIC will expect you to. As well, for conjugal you will have to prove you have joined your lives like a married couple would - joined finances or you supporting him, something like that.
If you could both go to a third country that allows same-sex marriage and get married, you could sponsor him right away.

You will need proof of communication. You can get a call history from Skype. From now on, try to only communicate using methods where you can get a record: email; Skype; some calling card companies will give you a record (but most won't); even if it is more expensive, nothing beats a landline; letters.
He could get a visa and extend his studies but he would have no money to live. I did travel there for 6 weeks but right now I'm doing a Math course until April and we are planning to apply for conjugal partners around that time and then in September I will be in school so it's not so easy to go there. But thanks for the advice!
 

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Rob_TO said:
In all i've read on conjugal apps... there are no barriers preventing you from living together for 12 months, or him coming to Canada so you can get married. CIC does not see financial reasons or the ability to work as a barrier.

So i think your only 2 options would be to get married and then apply, or spend 12 months together (could be 6 months here and 6 months there) to apply as common-law.
But he is not from a visa exempt country so doesn't that cause an immigration barrier? Thanks!
 

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canada93india91 said:
But he is not from a visa exempt country so doesn't that cause an immigration barrier? Thanks!
Immigration will say, you could have easily been married in many different countries (those that approve same sex mariage or course) You will be denied ! You might as know now, your chance is very small for approval
 

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gsize said:
Immigration will say, you could have easily been married in many different countries (those that approve same sex mariage or course) You will be denied ! You might as know now, your chance is very small for approval
Even if he doesn't have the money to travel to another country for marriage? Thanks but ugh I was hoping for more positive replies.
 

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canada93india91 said:
Even if he doesn't have the money to travel to another country for marriage? Thanks but ugh I was hoping for more positive replies.
I know its not what you wish to hear. Believe me, I wish I knew what I know now about Immigration Canada. (3 1/2 years and still waiting) MANY people are very naive regarding Immigration. Most learn the hard way
 

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canada93india91 said:
Even if he doesn't have the money to travel to another country for marriage? Thanks but ugh I was hoping for more positive replies.
Money is not considered a barrier by the CIC.

For an example of a real barrier to marriage, look at countries that forbid divorces making it illegal to get re-married, or that make it a criminal offence for that person to live with someone else while technically married to another.

Your best bet if a work visa is not possible, is to get married in any country that allows it and then apply as a married couple.
 

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canada93india91 said:
Even if he doesn't have the money to travel to another country for marriage?
This is not a reason according to CIC. Neither is not wanting to live in your partner's country because of a job or education.
If he can get a visa to come to Canada, then you have even less of an immigration barrier. I think your best bet is to get married.
 

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I think you have a chance. But if at all possible, get him to come to Canada so you can marry.
 

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Well it's legal here for same-sex marriage, but he can't just come here for a week without his families permission. The only way he can even come here is to tell his family that he is going to extend his studies or he got a job. Does anyone have any other ideas besides marriage?
 

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We have looked a lot into LMO's, but he has no work experience and it's doubtful anyone would hire him as a caregiver. I've heard about people sponsoring family/friends as their own caregivers but I don't make enough money (going to school) to support him and I.
 

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canada93india91 said:
Well it's legal here for same-sex marriage, but he can't just come here for a week without his families permission. The only way he can even come here is to tell his family that he is going to extend his studies or he got a job. Does anyone have any other ideas besides marriage?
Why can't he extend his studies? There's nothing wrong with studying more..
 

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Steph C said:
Why can't he extend his studies? There's nothing wrong with studying more..
He can, but he won't have any money to live for rent, food etc. If only I could afford it, but I have bare minimum money just for myself.