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Conjugal Partner - Warsaw VO

Aug 24, 2014
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Hello!

I have been reading through different threads about spousal sponsorship through Warsaw VO and the stories of sponsorship being approved has definitely kept me positive that my application to sponsor by boyfriend from Lithuania will also be approved.

I just wanted to know if anyone can share any stories about conjugal partner application, in particular. I have read some threads that say that it is the hardest application to get approved however, I also read these hardships from people with complicated relationships such as divorce or having children involved.

Me and my boyfriend are on a clean slate - no children, no previous marriage. He came to Canada on a work holiday in 2012 for a year, we met and one thing led to another. We have been together since.

I have received my first AOR on August 7, 2014 advising me that I have met the requirements as a sponsor and now our application is in Warsaw, being processed for his permanent residency.

Any stories will help! Thank you very much!
 

rhcohen2014

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yourhomegirlolo said:
Hello!

I have been reading through different threads about spousal sponsorship through Warsaw VO and the stories of sponsorship being approved has definitely kept me positive that my application to sponsor by boyfriend from Lithuania will also be approved.

I just wanted to know if anyone can share any stories about conjugal partner application, in particular. I have read some threads that say that it is the hardest application to get approved however, I also read these hardships from people with complicated relationships such as divorce or having children involved.

Me and my boyfriend are on a clean slate - no children, no previous marriage. He came to Canada on a work holiday in 2012 for a year, we met and one thing led to another. We have been together since.

I have received my first AOR on August 7, 2014 advising me that I have met the requirements as a sponsor and now our application is in Warsaw, being processed for his permanent residency.

Any stories will help! Thank you very much!
what are the significant barriers to you being together? generally, this is the main deterimination for conjugal. meaning, both parties have failed to get visas to visit eachother, or if same-sex, it is not recognized in the applicant's country, etc.
 

tink23

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Seeing as the principal applicant had a working visa for Canada before, why couldn't get another one to visit Canada? Canadians can also visit Lithuania or surrounding countries with ease, so unless there is an major major unforeseen barrier here, this conjugal application will probably be rejected.
Is there a reason you aren't able to marry?
 

gsize

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more than likely you will be denied. You can always marry in other countries and then apply
 

scylla

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I agree with what others have said unfortunately. I don't think you have any chance of being applied under conjugal - you don't meet the criteria. I would withdraw your application rather than waiting for the refusal and losing the fees. You can reapply once you are either married or have lived together for a minimum of one full year.
 
Aug 24, 2014
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rhcohen2014 said:
what are the significant barriers to you being together? generally, this is the main deterimination for conjugal. meaning, both parties have failed to get visas to visit eachother, or if same-sex, it is not recognized in the applicant's country, etc.

Thank you for your reply!

He was here on a Working Holiday Visa in 2012. As per International Experience Canada, he can only apply for the working holiday category once and he is not eligible for any other categories. We looked at the route of him applying on his own for permanent residency, but he is not eligible because he is not a skilled worker.

I would say that our main barrier is which type of visa he can apply for to move to Canada. We will get married but we do not want to take that route just yet if we can explore the possibility of the conjugal partner sponsorship only because we both don't want to get married for the sake of getting the visa.
 

tink23

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yourhomegirlolo said:
Thank you for your reply!

He was here on a Working Holiday Visa in 2012. As per International Experience Canada, he can only apply for the working holiday category once and he is not eligible for any other categories. We looked at the route of him applying on his own for permanent residency, but he is not eligible because he is not a skilled worker.

I would say that our main barrier is which type of visa he can apply for to move to Canada. We will get married but we do not want to take that route just yet if we can explore the possibility of the conjugal partner sponsorship only because we both don't want to get married for the sake of getting the visa.
Unfortunately that won't be an acceptable reason for conjugal. Conjugal is reserved for those who have no other option!
You could go and visit him and get married, you could go and live with him for 12 continuous months and qualify for common law, since he got a working visa it would probably be easy for him to get a visitor visa to visit you and get married or live together in Canada and apply as common law (he would just extend his visitor visa to one year). There are many options available to you, which is why conjugal won't work in this case.
 

scylla

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yourhomegirlolo said:
Thank you for your reply!

He was here on a Working Holiday Visa in 2012. As per International Experience Canada, he can only apply for the working holiday category once and he is not eligible for any other categories. We looked at the route of him applying on his own for permanent residency, but he is not eligible because he is not a skilled worker.

I would say that our main barrier is which type of visa he can apply for to move to Canada. We will get married but we do not want to take that route just yet if we can explore the possibility of the conjugal partner sponsorship only because we both don't want to get married for the sake of getting the visa.
I'm sorry. But what tink23 has said is correct. You face no barriers to either marriage or common law that will be considered as valid by Canadian immigration. Not wanting to get married is not accepted as a reason. Again, I'd very strongly recommend you withdraw your application and reapply once you qualify.
 

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yourhomegirlolo said:
We will get married but we do not want to take that route just yet if we can explore the possibility of the conjugal partner sponsorship only because we both don't want to get married for the sake of getting the visa.
As others have mentioned, that is not a suitable reason to apply conjugal.

Read here for more detailed descriptions from CIC: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/op/op02-eng.pdf
5.45. What is a conjugal partner?
CIC cannot require couples to marry in order to immigrate. However, if they are not
married, they must be common-law partners. There is NO provision for fiancé(e)s or “intended common-law partners” in IRPA. If a Canadian and a foreign national can get married or can live together and establish a common-law relationship, this is what they are expected to have done before they submit sponsorship and immigration applications.
The conjugal partner category is mainly intended for partners where neither common-law partner status nor marriage is possible, usually because of marital status or sexual orientation (both analogous grounds of discrimination under the Charter), combined with an immigration barrier.
 

PMM

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yourhomegirlolo said:
Thank you all for your replies. We will take our chances otherwise.
So you are going to waste a year or so, to get a refusal, then start all over again.
 

sammystorm19

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PMM said:
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So you are going to waste a year or so, to get a refusal, then start all over again.
And not only that but lose the money that you have already paid

There is no reason why you can't get married or apply as common law after living together for more than 1 year. CIC will see this and you will be declined as you don't fall under "conjugal partner". You have very senior members on here give you sound and good advice. I wouldn't waste a year of waiting to just be declined.
 

michellestella

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Conjugal has been a nightmare. It turned what should have a been a half a year tops into what's likely going to be a year and a half. If you can avoid it, do so, it's not worth it. If he's the one, get married. It's all well and good to stick to your principles and not get married just for the visa (that was our line of thought as well), but it's like the saying goes, dignity and an empty sack is worth an empty sack. If I had known then what I know now, I would have just gotten married two years ago and had my best friend here with me instead of far away. You can likely convert your application to a spousal one and avoid the long drawn out complications since you're still early in the process. They WILL ask for more information, your situation does not appear to qualify as conjugal. They will call you for an interview to give you a chance to clarify and justify your situation, but do you really want to wait and gamble on getting a sympathetic visa officer? My interview is next week and I am worried. I wish I didn't have to be.

I know every case is unique, but yours sounds a lot like mine. It's not worth it, trust me.
 
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mikeymyke

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yourhomegirlolo said:
Thank you all for your replies. We will take our chances otherwise.
You have 0 chance of being approved as a conjugal, don't waste your time and money.