common in law partner living insid canada recommendation for where to apply

[mirakhorli.f]

Hello friends,
I’m an Iranian girl, living with my partner who is canadian-french for one year. I am student right now and have study permit and I want him to sponsor me. I have heard if we apply outland is faster
I wonder for my case, is it better to apply outland? , and how should I choose the outland embassy? Since, Iran doesn’t have nay embassy, how should I choose the outland embassy
Thanks

 

[Rob_TO]

Ankara visa office does PR processing for Iranian applicants. Or if you hold a valid visa to Canada for at least 1 year, you could always request CPP-Ottawa as your visa office. Although where the application is actually sent, is up to CIC. They may or may not follow your request.

I would only apply outland if you are sure to have valid status (as student, worker or visitor) in Canada for at least the next 12 months or so which is around how long your application could take. If there is a chance your student status will end sooner than your outland PR could be issued, and you were unable to get an extension or alternate visa, then you would be forced to leave Canada. In this case it could be better to apply inland.

 

[mirakhorli.f]

Thank you very much for your answer.
I also have another question; I and my partner live together in the same place mostly 3 days in week. Because I’m student in Montreal and he works in a city nearby.
I wonder if I can claim living together. I also change all my address to his address. We also have rent an apt together in Montreal.
I also may not have the documented proof for the date that we start living together, I can just mention it.
Thanks

 

[little_apple]

Thank you very much for your answer.
I also have another question; I and my partner live together in the same place mostly 3 days in week. Because I'm student in Montreal and he works in a city nearby.
I wonder if I can claim living together. I also change all my address to his address. We also have rent an apt together in Montreal.
I also may not have the documented proof for the date that we start living together, I can just mention it.
Thanks

Depends on the officer. Mine didn't like that we didn't have everything joint from the first month we lived together. I tell you what I sent them and what they requested later:

I sent in initial application:
- Letter from landlord stating when I moved in
- mail coming to my address after 1 month I lived there
- joint bank account after 10 month of relationship
- joint purchase of condo after 10 month of relationship
- joint health insurance
- joint life insurance
- 4 stat. declarations from friends and family
- around 20 pictures
- holidays together etc.
- letter" history of our relationship"
- changed status with Canada Revenue

Officer requested:
- joint lease agreement from the first day living together
- joint utility bills from the first day living together
- joint bank account from the first day living together
- T4 from both of us from the last 2 years
- Notice of Assessment from both of us from the last two years
- proof of joint condo purchase

I sent:
- explanation letter
- another letter from landlord when I moved in + lease agreement in only my boyfriend's name
- payment receipt for every month we paid rent in both of our names
- T4's and Notice of Assessment for the last two years
- another printout from Canada Revenue showing common-law status
- joint purchase contract for condo
- joint condo insurance
- joint cat adoption
- monthly bank statements for every month since we had a joint bank account with note that we had separate ones before and the statements are not accessible anymore
- proof that joint utility bills were not possible because 1) included in rent 2) later not possible for common-law, only when married
- printout of every paystub starting 6 weeks after I moved in (was looking for a job before that)
- printout of every phone bill after 4 month living together (had prepaid phone before that)

I hope now that this is enough proof for common-law. I don't know what else to send them. But this gives you an idea of what they might ask for ;-) Good luck

 

[Rob_TO]

Thank you very much for your answer.
I also have another question; I and my partner live together in the same place mostly 3 days in week. Because I'm student in Montreal and he works in a city nearby.
I wonder if I can claim living together. I also change all my address to his address. We also have rent an apt together in Montreal.
I also may not have the documented proof for the date that we start living together, I can just mention it.
Thanks

This is a very tricky situation. You are living apart 4 out of 7 days per week, which is over 50% of the time. Does one of you then rent a second apartment to live in while working/going to school? If so, the visa officer may claim that the 2nd apartment is the actual residence of that person since that is where most of the time is spent, so will not consider you to be cohabiting. Of course this is entirely up to the visa officer's opinion after reviewing your situation, I can't say for sure either way.

Also you need to actually PROVE cohabitation. You can't just "mention it". If you can't prove it, then to CIC it didn't happen. So you will need to show things like mail to both of you being sent to same address, showing record of address at work or school matches each other, changing tax status to CRA to common-law after the 12 months was reached, etc etc. Something needs to be dated back to when you first moved in together.

 

[steerpike]

I'm not sure what office Iranians use, but if its Turkey, then the wait time is 15 months (1+14). For Canada Inland wait time is posted as 16 months (8+8). So in your case there isnt a big different between the two in terms of time.

I would also recommend getting married. You still need show proof of relationship, but you dont have to show you were attached at the hip for 1 year solid.

 

[Rob_TO]

I'm not sure what office Iranians use, but if its Turkey, then the wait time is 15 months (1+14). For Canada Inland wait time is posted as 16 months (8+8). So in your case there isnt a big different between the two in terms of time.

Remember that the posted times are not actually averages. They are more worst-case times.
The 50% time for Ankara (so more indicative of an average) is only 10-11 months.

 

[steerpike]

Remember that the posted times are not actually averages. They are more worst-case times.
The 50% time for Ankara (so more indicative of an average) is only 10-11 months.

Sure, but the wait times are actually pretty useless. When i applied it said 6 months for AIP for inland. It actually took 11 months. We were probably just unlucky, but regardless, people should repare for the worst.

There are cases where outland is way faster than inland. Ankara is only mildly faster. Especially now that Inland stage 1 seem to be dropping back down.

 

[mirakhorli.f]

The reality is that my partner has bought his condo in his name which is like the actual residence of us. Since I study in Montreal and every day I should go to university, we rent a house in both names in Montreal. I changed all my address (including university, bank and tax) to his address. This year we fill the tax form as roommates together, since in summer it exactly get 1 year that we are together. But I want to evaluate everything in advance to see if I have a good chance to get PR through his sponsorship, don’t think about other ways.
In this way, it seems that the day which I can claim to live with him is the day which I changed my addresses to his address!.

This is a very tricky situation. You are living apart 4 out of 7 days per week, which is over 50% of the time. Does one of you then rent a second apartment to live in while working/going to school? If so, the visa officer may claim that the 2nd apartment is the actual residence of that person since that is where most of the time is spent, so will not consider you to be cohabiting. Of course this is entirely up to the visa officer's opinion after reviewing your situation, I can't say for sure either way.

Also you need to actually PROVE cohabitation. You can't just "mention it". If you can't prove it, then to CIC it didn't happen. So you will need to show things like mail to both of you being sent to same address, showing record of address at work or school matches each other, changing tax status to CRA to common-law after the 12 months was reached, etc etc. Something needs to be dated back to when you first moved in together.

 

[mirakhorli.f]

I also want to know if I can exit Canada before getting approved in the first stage. (I have multiple student visa with study permit)
I want to attend to a conference in USA

 

[BubbOZ]

You might want to ask your question again in this thread:
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/quebec-outland-applicants-2013-thread-timeline-t153740.0.html

It deals mostly with Quebec Outland applicants... Not sure if it's any different from the rest of Canada or not. The answers you get there might be slightly more relevant to your case from la belle province.

The reality is that my partner has bought his condo in his name which is like the actual residence of us. Since I study in Montreal and every day I should go to university, we rent a house in both names in Montreal. I changed all my address (including university, bank and tax) to his address. This year we fill the tax form as roommates together, since in summer it exactly get 1 year that we are together. But I want to evaluate everything in advance to see if I have a good chance to get PR through his sponsorship, don't think about other ways.
In this way, it seems that the day which I can claim to live with him is the day which I changed my addresses to his address!.