Commission Based Canadian Work Experience Eligibility for PR

[Anirudhs91]

I am in a Commission based job for almost a year now. I am receiving commissions on the minimum wage rate. My employer has issued me a reference letter which says I have been earning commissions for 40 hours per week at the minimum wages for **so called period** (tentatively it has been 10 months now).

My job is as per my NOC code in category B

Catch:
In some work schedules over these 10 months, I was not working complete 40 hours. I had worked some times for 20 - 25 hours as well. When I calculated those are not coming equal to the required number of hours for CEC category
My employer will be issuing me T4a - for the commission based job

Please help me understand how do I go ahead with applying my PR?

 

[mikko008]

I am in a Commission based job for almost a year now. I am receiving commissions on the minimum wage rate. My employer has issued me a reference letter which says I have been earning commissions for 40 hours per week at the minimum wages for **so called period** (tentatively it has been 10 months now).

My job is as per my NOC code in category B

Catch:
In some work schedules over these 10 months, I was not working complete 40 hours. I had worked some times for 20 - 25 hours as well. When I calculated those are not coming equal to the required number of hours for CEC category
My employer will be issuing me T4a - for the commission based job

Please help me understand how do I go ahead with applying my PR?

Under CEC, you must complete one-year work experience (12 months AND 1560 hours). They will not coount any hours above 30 hours/week towards that 1560 hours. For example, you work from Aug 2018 to Aug 2019 (12 months must be met first), out of that 12 months, you work 40 hours per week for six months, and 25 hours per week for the other six months, you should calculate your qualified hours like this:

30 hours X 26 week (6 months) = 780 hours
25 hours X 26 weeks (6 months) = 650 hours

The total comes to 1,430 which is lower than the required 1,560 hours. you need to work for extra 130 hours (about 6 more weeks on a 25-hour-per-week schedule) before you can be eligible to apply under CEC.

 

[scylla]

I am in a Commission based job for almost a year now. I am receiving commissions on the minimum wage rate. My employer has issued me a reference letter which says I have been earning commissions for 40 hours per week at the minimum wages for **so called period** (tentatively it has been 10 months now).

My job is as per my NOC code in category B

Catch:
In some work schedules over these 10 months, I was not working complete 40 hours. I had worked some times for 20 - 25 hours as well. When I calculated those are not coming equal to the required number of hours for CEC category
My employer will be issuing me T4a - for the commission based job

Please help me understand how do I go ahead with applying my PR?

You'll need to work 2+ months before you will qualify for CEC. Here's how you do the calculation to determine if you qualify:

- For each week where you worked 30+ hours, count this as one week (doesn't matter if you worked 30, 60 or 90 hours).
- For each week where you worked fewer than 30 hours, add the hours together and divide by 30.
- When the total of the two calculations above equals 52, you will qualify to apply.

 

[terriw90]

Another question I have about this, I am also paid commission. I work in a hair salon and I split everything I do 50/50. I do get holiday pay etc through them. However there may be times where it may not equal minimum wage. I have tweeted IRCC about this, and they have said they don't have a salary cap on what you should earn for your 12 months work experience. Just wondered if anyone else has dealt with this??

 

[jes_ON]

Another question I have about this, I am also paid commission. I work in a hair salon and I split everything I do 50/50. I do get holiday pay etc through them. However there may be times where it may not equal minimum wage. I have tweeted IRCC about this, and they have said they don't have a salary cap on what you should earn for your 12 months work experience. Just wondered if anyone else has dealt with this??

Not really sure what your question is... ? Your letter of employment needs to describe the details of your remuneration plus benefits. That way IRCC will be able to accurately assess your work experience. You can provide a letter of explanation if you feel it is necessary.

 

[Ozeei]

Not really sure what your question is... ? Your letter of employment needs to describe the details of your remuneration plus benefits. That way IRCC will be able to accurately assess your work experience. You can provide a letter of explanation if you feel it is necessary.

Hi Jes,

I have been reading your replies on some of the posts here and I can tell you're knowledgable when it comes to requirements.

I have a question regarding the "commission based" jobs, hopefully you can help!

From November 2015 until September 2016 I worked at a job as a life insurance salesperson which falls in NOC B. However, when I worked there I made only 1 sale for $1000. I was on a PGWP and was lucky enough to have my family support me financially (and emotionally, haha) - thank god.
I can probably obtain a letter of experience stating that I worked there. Should the compensation portion be "commission only" or should it state the amount ($1000)? Also, does it matter if I barely made any money working there?

I managed to work at a different job afterwards and currently have 1 year and 6 months experience. I am trying to complete a full 2 years of experience in order to fork out as many points as I can. On a side note, I completed the english test 7 times in hopes to increase my CRS (they are very strict with marking the writing section).

Thank you in advance for your help!
Ozeei

 

[jes_ON]

I have a question regarding the "commission based" jobs, hopefully you can help!

From November 2015 until September 2016 I worked at a job as a life insurance salesperson which falls in NOC B. However, when I worked there I made only 1 sale for $1000. I was on a PGWP and was lucky enough to have my family support me financially (and emotionally, haha) - thank god.
I can probably obtain a letter of experience stating that I worked there. Should the compensation portion be "commission only" or should it state the amount ($1000)? Also, does it matter if I barely made any money working there?

So you worked full time for 10 months and earned only 1,000? Is that what you are saying?

OK, first - there are commission-based employees, and commission-based self-employed contractors. I suspect you were the latter, which means that the experience is not eligible. You would have to check the terms of your contract to determine this (if you are not sure).

If you were self-employed, you should not list this in your profile. Later, if you get an ITA, you would have to list it in your personal history.

I managed to work at a different job afterwards and currently have 1 year and 6 months experience. I am trying to complete a full 2 years of experience in order to fork out as many points as I can.


On a side note, I completed the english test 7 times in hopes to increase my CRS (they are very strict with marking the writing section).
which test? IELTS? Have you tried the CELPIP, or vice versa?

Just taking the test over and over again without taking a course or studying... not a receipe for success... why not take a writing course while you try to complete your 2nd year of experience?

 

[Ozeei]

Ah I see, yes i believe I was "self-employed", I'll double check just incase.
Yes, I tried both the CELPIP and the IELTS. I completed the CELPIP 3 times and the IELTS 3 times, my 4th is tomorrow.
Oh I've taken courses at a language institution, studied from online sources such as youtube, and for some reason it is not helping. A lot of people get stuck at 6.5 for the writing, hopefully this time i'll nail it. My PGWP expired so I need to get the result as soon as possible.

 

[jes_ON]

Ah I see, yes i believe I was "self-employed", I'll double check just incase.
Yes, I tried both the CELPIP and the IELTS. I completed the CELPIP 3 times and the IELTS 3 times, my 4th is tomorrow.
Oh I've taken courses at a language institution, studied from online sources such as youtube, and for some reason it is not helping. A lot of people get stuck at 6.5 for the writing, hopefully this time i'll nail it. My PGWP expired so I need to get the result as soon as possible.

This is concerning... When did your work permit expire? Have you applied for a new one? If not, have you stopped working?

 

[Ozeei]

Yes, work permit expired on 3rd of May 2019 but on the 2nd of May 2019 I applied for an open work permit. I kept on working since I was under implied status. It got declined since i'm not eligible for one so I stopped working then. Now I have applied for a visitor visa in order to remain in Canada legally. CRS scores are at an all time high so hopefully once I improve my writing result it will boost my score and, therefore, get my ITA.

 

[jes_ON]

Yes, work permit expired on 3rd of May 2019 but on the 2nd of May 2019 I applied for an open work permit. I kept on working since I was under implied status. It got declined since i'm not eligible for one so I stopped working then. Now I have applied for a visitor visa in order to remain in Canada legally. CRS scores are at an all time high so hopefully once I improve my writing result it will boost my score and, therefore, get my ITA.

Got it... your first post made it sound like you were still working (trying to get 2 years at your new job). Good luck!

 

[Ozeei]

Got it... your first post made it sound like you were still working (trying to get 2 years at your new job). Good luck!

Oh no, sorry for the confusion. Thank you and I genuinely appreciate your responses. All the best!

 

[Aditi_122]

I have a question regarding how commission based job count hours in PR. For example I am physiotherapist and I get paid some percent of patients fee. It’s all about how much patient I see. So how to count that in PR application?

 

[Nithik]

Did you figure out the solution for you case..how the hours are calculated if you getting commission based on clients..it's the same case for me as well..I'm working as a tattoo artist and I getting payed by commission..but I make sure the amount is more than my province minimum × 30 for a week..how to justify that i worked more than 30.hrs if I'm a commission based when applying for PR