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Citizenship within first 5 years or within first 10 years after landing??

GirlOntario

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As we know that after landing one must have lived approximately 3 years out of 5 years period to apply for citizenship in Canada. We also know that people are coming back into US after landing and keep Canada PR as a backup option.
So question is that if these people will not be able to become Canadian Citizen in first five years then what will be the situation in first 10 years after landing in Alberta?

Let's say
-Joe became PR through AINP H1B SRS category in 2010
-Did landing, used AVR Came back to US and start working on American Green Card
-Became American Permanent resident in 2015 (If was lucky enough)
-In 2015, after getting American PR Card, went back to Canada to apply for Citizenship in 2015
-Now how many days Joe will have to live in ALberta to apply for Canadian Citizenship?
 

aNewHope

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AG/GirlOntario/steve.canada/reddy.canada/et al:

For a Canadian PR to be valid one will have to live in Canada for a cumulative 2 year period in a 5 year window. So if your "buddy" Joe gets his PR in 2010 and goes back to the US then he will lose his Canadian PR in 2013 if he hasn't lived in Canada at all in the mean time. Unless you maintain 730 days (roughly) of residence, cumulative, in any 5 year period your "buddy" will lose his PR. To be eligible for Citizenship your "buddy" will have to live 3 years, cumulative, in a five year window.

GirlOntario said:
As we know that after landing one must have lived approximately 3 years out of 5 years period to apply for citizenship in Canada. We also know that people are coming back into US after landing and keep Canada PR as a backup option.
So question is that if these people will not be able to become Canadian Citizen in first five years then what will be the situation in first 10 years after landing in Alberta?

Let's say
-Joe became PR through AINP H1B SRS category in 2010
-Did landing, used AVR Came back to US and start working on American Green Card
-Became American Permanent resident in 2015 (If was lucky enough)
-In 2015, after getting American PR Card, went back to Canada to apply for Citizenship in 2015
-Now how many days Joe will have to live in ALberta to apply for Canadian Citizenship?
 

GirlOntario

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I asked about 10 year window and that was the whole question.
I DID NOT ASK:
-how many days one has to live to maintain PR status
-What is the situation in 5 year window

I DID ASK:

-What will be the situation beyond first five year period after landing?
 
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us_to_ab

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GirlOntario said:
I asked about 10 year window and that was the whole question.
I DID NOT ASK:
-how many days one has to live to maintain PR status
-What is the situation in 5 year window

I DID ASK:

-What will be the situation beyond first five year period after landing?
Looks like Joe stayed in Canada for a day or 2 ..they don't even care if he stayed for ..may be 11 months..they round it to "0 Years". However if he stayed for 1 year and 1 day...they will consider it as 1 year and 1 day that he can roll over to next 5 year window.
Bottom line is Window closes for him after first 5 years. From description of Joe's travel profile, you posted at the very beginning, I will have to assume he lived in CA for a nice candlelight dinner and came back to US. PR Renewal rejection and then New application for PR from scratch would be Joe looking at after first 5 years...However if he has spent 1 year and 1 day in his initial 5 years of PR window you are looking at checking him again in Canada(for the next 5 years window) for straight 2 years minus 1 day before he can joyfully apply for Citizenship.
 

ingegarcia

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This is the situation of Joe the friend

-Joe became PR through AINP H1B SRS category in 2010...
-Did landing, used AVR Came back to US and start working on American Green Card
Hopefully Joe managed to get PR card at this point so he doesn't have to struggle with travel document at the consulate to come back to Canada. He would need SIN and Health care card so he start paying taxes and demonstrating that he is currently living in Canada

-Became American Permanent resident in 2015 (If was lucky enough).
If Joe did not live 2 years out of 5 in Canada Joe just lost his PR :( bad luck my friend, anyway seems to be that you have hope with your Green card if it ever comes through :)

-In 2015, after getting American PR Card, went back to Canada to apply for Citizenship in 2015.
Lucky Joe... his hope was paid off.... again if he managed to live 2 years out of 5 in Canada he is still a PR, so at this point he would need a PR renewal....


-Now how many days Joe will have to live in ALberta to apply for Canadian Citizenship?

In order for Joe to become a citizen hmmmmm.... let me do some figures hmmm.... two plus five minus nine :) let me see..... ohhh here you go "To become Canadian citizens, adults must have lived in Canada for at least three years (1,095 days) in the past four years before applying."



So I think Joe must have a twin brother to become PR in US and Canada, and Canadian Citizen all at the same time...


BTW No offense with my answers. if they upset you I'll remove my message from the forum.
 

aNewHope

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Ingegarcia:

Don't worry. Sometimes we forget that some of these threads are for the benefit of AG and his aliases (GirlOntario, steve.canada, reddy.canada, etc.) only. He likes to ask far-out-of-the-left-field questions and then answer them himself (using a different alias). Some of his "conversations" with himself are pretty hilarious :) Although they signal a very disturbed mind they are pretty funny. The only regret is sometimes our language skills are not advanced enough to really understand what he says :(

Just sit back and enjoy!

Cheers,

ingegarcia said:
This is the situation of Joe the friend

-Joe became PR through AINP H1B SRS category in 2010...
-Did landing, used AVR Came back to US and start working on American Green Card
Hopefully Joe managed to get PR card at this point so he doesn't have to struggle with travel document at the consulate to come back to Canada. He would need SIN and Health care card so he start paying taxes and demonstrating that he is currently living in Canada

-Became American Permanent resident in 2015 (If was lucky enough).
If Joe did not live 2 years out of 5 in Canada Joe just lost his PR :( bad luck my friend, anyway seems to be that you have hope with your Green card if it ever comes through :)

-In 2015, after getting American PR Card, went back to Canada to apply for Citizenship in 2015.
Lucky Joe... his hope was paid off.... again if he managed to live 2 years out of 5 in Canada he is still a PR, so at this point he would need a PR renewal....


-Now how many days Joe will have to live in ALberta to apply for Canadian Citizenship?

In order for Joe to become a citizen hmmmmm.... let me do some figures hmmm.... two plus five minus nine :) let me see..... ohhh here you go "To become Canadian citizens, adults must have lived in Canada for at least three years (1,095 days) in the past four years before applying."



So I think Joe must have a twin brother to become PR in US and Canada, and Canadian Citizen all at the same time...


BTW No offense with my answers. if they upset you I'll remove my message from the forum.