Citizenship through great grandparent

[bujaam]

Hi, without getting too much into my family history I know that one of my great grandparents was born in Canada however neither my grandmother nor mother have ever claimed Canadian citizenship.

Is it possible for me to get Canadian citizenship or am I cooked ?

Thank you !

 

[forevermore76]

Hi, without getting too much into my family history I know that one of my great grandparents was born in Canada however neither my grandmother nor mother have ever claimed Canadian citizenship.

Is it possible for me to get Canadian citizenship or am I cooked ?

Thank you !

Unless your grandmother or mother was born in Canada, you are cooked (in your terms).

 

[Canadianbeachgoer]

Hi, without getting too much into my family history I know that one of my great grandparents was born in Canada however neither my grandmother nor mother have ever claimed Canadian citizenship.

Is it possible for me to get Canadian citizenship or am I cooked ?

Thank you !

I'm related to King George III that reigned from 1760 to 1820.. can I claim UK citizenship?

 

[Copingwithlife]

Hi, without getting too much into my family history I know that one of my great grandparents was born in Canada however neither my grandmother nor mother have ever claimed Canadian citizenship.

Is it possible for me to get Canadian citizenship or am I cooked ?

Thank you !

This would be akin to me claiming US citizenship due to my great grandfather being born in Iowa in 1870
My grandfather never claimed it, nor did my mother

Or me claiming UK citizenship. My great great great grandfather was born in the UK in 1814. Came to Canada in 1830.

Another born in Ireland , 1794. Came to Canada 1810. No one claimed

Ain’t going to happen

Aka = I’m cooked as well, take me out of the oven , I’m done

Plus who has the energy gathering paperwork literally from centuries ago ?

 

[armoured]

Plus who has the energy gathering paperwork literally from centuries ago ?

Plenty of historic cases. Germany's offer of citizenship to those who can prove German background, sometimes centuries back - resulted in at least hundreds of thousands coming from ex-USSR.

This is without even mentioning Israel and Aliyah; I've friends and acquaintances who had to do considerable archival work to demonstrate their background.

But this surely takes the cake, Sephardic Jews allowed to make claims based on 15th century explusions from Spain (I think Portugal may have done something similar):
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2019/09/spain-offers-citizenship-sephardic-jews/598258/

When you get down to it, it's not so rare or outlandish on a global basis.

But yeah - it's a bit of a stretch for Canada. Don't blame people for trying, though, especially in current world.

 

[canuck78]

Plenty of historic cases. Germany's offer of citizenship to those who can prove German background, sometimes centuries back - resulted in at least hundreds of thousands coming from ex-USSR.

This is without even mentioning Israel and Aliyah; I've friends and acquaintances who had to do considerable archival work to demonstrate their background.

But this surely takes the cake, Sephardic Jews allowed to make claims based on 15th century explusions from Spain (I think Portugal may have done something similar):
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2019/09/spain-offers-citizenship-sephardic-jews/598258/

When you get down to it, it's not so rare or outlandish on a global basis.

But yeah - it's a bit of a stretch for Canada. Don't blame people for trying, though, especially in current world.

To be fair the Aliyah issue is quite different and the goal behind encouraging people to make Aliyah also quite different. Also don’t blame people from exploring opportunities. Getting my EU passport while my sibling got hers 20 years ago. No plans of using it in the near future but it is a minor nightmare to get it.

 

[armoured]

To be fair the Aliyah issue is quite different and the goal behind encouraging people to make Aliyah also quite different.

Yes. On Aliyah, my point was that it actually does (often) involve extensive archival/genealogical research required to get documentation in order to qualify.

Requirements, as I understand it, differ by country of origin - for Russia/former Soviet Union, it is far more genealogical - prove descended from Jewish families - than the approach used in other countries. I presume this is because so few people have/had access to synagogues and the long-time effective bans on being religious Jews in the USSR. I'm not an expert though. I do have friends and acquaintances who did it and so somewhat familiar with what is needed there.

My understanding eg from Canada to Israel is a lot more simple. YMMV.

 

[canuck78]

Yes. On Aliyah, my point was that it actually does (often) involve extensive archival/genealogical research required to get documentation in order to qualify.

Requirements, as I understand it, differ by country of origin - for Russia/former Soviet Union, it is far more genealogical - prove descended from Jewish families - than the approach used in other countries. I presume this is because so few people have/had access to synagogues and the long-time effective bans on being religious Jews in the USSR. I'm not an expert though. I do have friends and acquaintances who did it and so somewhat familiar with what is needed there.

My understanding eg from Canada to Israel is a lot more simple. YMMV.

The majority who make Aliyah and who Israel is really targeting with the program are the more devout populations. There are certainly some groups trying to secure a home due to hardships in their home country but that isn’t really what the program is really trying to attract especially at the moment. Although Aliyah is associated with citizenship underlying goals are very different than other citizenship paths. Same goes for Birthright trips. Although may appear as a free trip the goal is really to encourage more to make Aliyah and maybe even find a spouse.

 

[armoured]

The majority who make Aliyah and who Israel is really targeting with the program are the more devout populations. There are certainly some groups trying to secure a home due to hardships in their home country but that isn’t really what the program is really trying to attract especially at the moment. Although Aliyah is associated with citizenship underlying goals are very different than other citizenship paths. Same goes for Birthright trips. Although may appear as a free trip the goal is really to encourage more to make Aliyah and maybe even find a spouse.

Do you wake up in the morning and think "how can I miss the point today?"

I was pretty clear: my point about Aliyah was directed to the fact that it does sometimes require genealogical research. That's not a comment on the populations it targets, goals, religious content or other aspects - those are the things that were not the point in mentioning it.

 

[canuck78]

Do you wake up in the morning and think "how can I miss the point today?"

I was pretty clear: my point about Aliyah was directed to the fact that it does sometimes require genealogical research. That's not a comment on the populations it targets, goals, religious content or other aspects - those are the things that were not the point in mentioning it.

I understood the point but also don’t think the context is that relevant.

 

[armoured]

I understood the point but also don’t think the context is that relevant.

Well it isn't relevant if you ignore the way in which I specified it is relevant, and prattle on about the parts I said nothing about - see how that works?

Notice I said in the first 'without even mentioning Israel and Aliyah' thereby indicating it was different in some way, ie. that the way it is analogous is incomplete?

Are you this bloody dense in person?