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IRCC GCMS as well as CBSA notes. In My CBSA gcms notes it was mentioned clearly that my file is non routine whilst in my IRCC GCSMS some words were missing in the notes.
Where do you look in the GCMS?

ORGANIZATIONS & ENTITIES
ORGANIZATIONS & ENTITIES: 1
Created Date: 2020/10/08 15:55:10
Created By: D3215
Updated Date: 2021/01/25 08:33:35
Updated By: TB7251
Org/Entity ID: 02663558xxxx
Name: ORG 1-PII REQUIRED
Type: Organization
Sub Type: Other
Other Sub Type Descrip: Resumption Pilot for Routine files
Reason:
Other Reason Descrip:
Contact Last Name:
Contact First Name:
Effective Date: 2020/10/12
Expiry Date:
Disassoc Reason:
Other Disassoc Descrip:
This is the only place I find the word routine or nonroutine in my CBSA GCMS.
Does this indicate my application is routine?
 

raaj051

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IRCC GCMS as well as CBSA notes. In My CBSA gcms notes it was mentioned clearly that my file is non routine whilst in my IRCC GCSMS some words were missing in the notes.
can you please specify where can I find in gcms that my file is routine or non routine ? because I have seen my gcms notes and the officer notes are shown blank. Also how much info you can get from CBSA notes and csis notes ?
 

rajkamalmohanram

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can you please specify where can I find in gcms that my file is routine or non routine ? because I have seen my gcms notes and the officer notes are shown blank. Also how much info you can get from CBSA notes and csis notes ?
Notes section will be blank unless you've received test invite, passport pages request or an interview or applied for Urgent processing AFAIK.
 

luvtrump

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can you please specify where can I find in gcms that my file is routine or non routine ? because I have seen my gcms notes and the officer notes are shown blank. Also how much info you can get from CBSA notes and csis notes ?
How long has your file been In process? What status do you have as completed?
 

DejavuCA

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I don't care if they are working a second job on their own time (like evenings after work) without affecting their business hours. Other people do it all the time and government employees are people too trying to make a living. IMO, there is nothing wrong with working a second job outside the business hours of the regular job irrespective of whether the person is a government employee or not.

Furthermore, the initial pay for the case processing officer isn't much from what I know. It is around CAD 55,000 or something around that, which isn't much. So, working a second job might have been obligatory for the employee you mentioned.
I CARE IF THEY CAN’T DO THEIR FIRST JOB PROPERLY! Again, I said I “heard” so I am not sure if it’s 100% correct or not. I READ it HERE in this forum a few months ago. And 55000 is not much??? Most people outside trying to survive with minimum wage which is like 20-25k a year at most. Again, I don’t care about second, third, fourth jobs or whatever, as long as THE MAIN JOB IS ACTUALLY DONE PROPERLY. Because at the end, their salary=OUR TAXES and I have every right to question their service! It’s not 2020 anymore, 2022 coming and seems like I have to wait one more year and I just can’t sit and take this anymore!
 
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I don't care if they are working a second job on their own time (like evenings after work) without affecting their business hours. Other people do it all the time and government employees are people too trying to make a living. IMO, there is nothing wrong with working a second job outside the business hours of the regular job irrespective of whether the person is a government employee or not.

Furthermore, the initial pay for the case processing officer isn't much from what I know. It is around CAD 55,000 or something around that, which isn't much. So, working a second job might have been obligatory for the employee you mentioned.
Nothing wrong with a side hustle if it's not done on your main employer's time. In the case of the IRCC officers doing that I wouldn't be surprised if they were overlapping their second gig with their primary job which would explain their low productivity. In fact since going remote quite a few people have been overlapping jobs to work two full-time jobs on the sly:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2021/08/15/the-remote-trend-of-working-two-jobs-at-the-same-time-without-both-companies-knowing/?sh=5538fd617f30
 

rajkamalmohanram

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I CARE IF THEY CAN’T DO THEIR FIRST JOB PROPERLY! Again, I said I “heard” so I am not sure if it’s 100% correct or not. I READ it HERE in this forum a few months ago. And 55000 is not much??? Most people outside trying to survive with minimum wage which is like 20-25k a year at most. Again, I don’t care about second, third, fourth jobs or whatever, as long as THE MAIN JOB IS ACTUALLY DONE PROPERLY. Because at the end, their salary=OUR TAXES and I have every right to question their service! It’s not 2020 anymore, 2022 coming and seems like I have to wait one more year and I just can’t sit and take this anymore!
I don't think its up to you to decide if some random person takes a second job or not. If their employer and their family is okay with it, your opinion doesn't really matter here (though you do have a right to an opinion). And how do you know that the employee you mentioned isn't doing the "main job" properly? Do you have the employee performance records for that employee? And the worst part is that you are not even 100% sure if this employee ever took a second job and building your case on a rumor.

Yeah, you paid for a service and you have the right to ask questions. You have the right to ask questions about the service, about the organization providing the service and the quality of service the organization provides as a whole. File a complaint to IRCC about their quality of service, that's the proper channel. What individual employees of the organization do in their own time is none of your (or anyone else's) business.

Frustration while waiting is common but blaming it on someone for very absurd reasons isn't the way to go about it. I hope you see progress with your application soon and just so you know, I do feel bad for the long waiting times you and other (probably) quarter million applicants are going through. It is bad and I don't disagree with that. I hope there is some quick progress on your applications.
 
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DejavuCA

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I don't think its up to you to decide if some random person takes a second job or not. If their employer and their family is okay with it, your opinion doesn't really matter here (though you do have a right to an opinion). And how do you know that the employee you mentioned isn't doing the "main job" properly? Do you have the employee performance records for that employee? And the worst part is that you are not even 100% sure if this employee ever took a second job and building your case on a rumor.

Yeah, you paid for a service and you have the right to ask questions. You have the right to ask questions about the service, about the organization providing the service and the quality of service the organization provides as a whole. File a complaint to IRCC about their quality of service, that's the proper channel. What individual employees of the organization do in their own time is none of your (or anyone else's) business.

Frustration while waiting is common but blaming it on someone for very absurd reasons isn't the way to go about it. I hope you see progress with your application soon and just so you know, I do feel bad for the long waiting times you and other (probably) quarter million applicants are going through. It is bad and I don't disagree with that. I hope there is some quick progress on your applications.
Lol you gotta be kidding me! Here is a forum and a few months ago people here were talking about that scandal. I’m just honest saying I read here, that doesn’t change the fact that since 2020, this whole thing is nothing but a SCANDAL. Stop acting like a hero. You can’t show me as a target as if I made this up. Damn internet is always like this. Some people like to seek for attention and play the hero while bashing somebody. But you know what, I don’t care! I’m not afraid of anything and gonna prepare for protesting soon too! We have every right to question these people because since 2020, it’s obvious what is going on! It’s easy for you to speak like this after you took your oath. Try to do some emphaty next time. And for all the people that are waiting right now:

YOU ARE NOT ALONE.
 

luvtrump

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Lol you gotta be kidding me! Here is a forum and a few months ago people here were talking about that scandal. I’m just honest saying I read here, that doesn’t change the fact that since 2020, this whole thing is nothing but a SCANDAL. Stop acting like a hero. You can’t show me as a target as if I made this up. Damn internet is always like this. Some people like to seek for attention and play the hero while bashing somebody. But you know what, I don’t care! I’m not afraid of anything and gonna prepare for protesting soon too! We have every right to question these people because since 2020, it’s obvious what is going on! It’s easy for you to speak like this after you took your oath. Try to do some emphaty next time. And for all the people that are waiting right now:

YOU ARE NOT ALONE.
Chill bro . I'm pissed off at ircc too but let's just focus on IRCC and stop bashing each other. Protest is awesome. Where are u going to protest and when ?
 

DejavuCA

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Chill bro . I'm pissed off at ircc too but let's just focus on IRCC and stop bashing each other. Protest is awesome. Where are u going to protest and when ?
I just didn’t like the fact that he was basically bashing me like do they think I’m gonna sit and take all those bashing words as if I’m the problem and IRCC is doing amazing??! I’m fighting for my rights here and instead of focusing on what is going on since 2020, me talking about something that was talked here before a few months ago became the main problem. Second job or third job or whatever, nothing change the fact that since 2020, what is going on is S C A N D A L. I lost my health and so many things and I’m not afraid of anything at this point! They stole a good portion of my life and I’m not gonna let this go!

I just got the answer for my webform request. Which is the exact copy paste of their web page lol :)))) I’m trying to contact some MPs etc at this point. Trying every way.. If not, I will go there IRCC building in Calgary and fight for my right! They destroyed my dreams. While getting paid abusing code 699. Won’t forget this.
 

rajkamalmohanram

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Lol you gotta be kidding me! Here is a forum and a few months ago people here were talking about that scandal. I’m just honest saying I read here, that doesn’t change the fact that since 2020, this whole thing is nothing but a SCANDAL. Stop acting like a hero. You can’t show me as a target as if I made this up. Damn internet is always like this. Some people like to seek for attention and play the hero while bashing somebody. But you know what, I don’t care! I’m not afraid of anything and gonna prepare for protesting soon too! We have every right to question these people because since 2020, it’s obvious what is going on! It’s easy for you to speak like this after you took your oath. Try to do some emphaty next time. And for all the people that are waiting right now:

YOU ARE NOT ALONE.
I don't have the need to be a hero or seek attention. I've been here since 2015 and I try to contribute whenever I can. Like I said, the situation is bad for all applicants that are still waiting and there is no denying that. NO ONE IS DENYING THAT. My only qualm with your post is you dictating if someone should or shouldn't take a second job, which like I said, isn't up to you. That's all I said. I never bashed you BTW, I was trying to be polite in my previous post.

Please go ahead and protest, you have the right to do that, no one is saying NO to that. Protest, lodge a complaint, write to the minister and request corporate records under ATIP (which, BTW I have already done once in the past and I have filed another request recently to get all emails, documents showing progress for citizenship applications). I wouldn't be doing any of this if I don't care or I don't have empathy like you've accused me of in your post. I might have got my citizenship quickly and I was incredibly lucky but I fully realize that there are so many people waiting and it is getting worse.

It is very sad to see that you fail to realize is that I'm on your side and I have always been on your side. Anyway, like I said, you don't have to take out your frustration and disappointment on me. I am not the enemy here. I sincerely hope you see progress on your application soon. Wish you the best!
 
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luvtrump

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I just didn’t like the fact that he was basically bashing me like do they think I’m gonna sit and take all those bashing words as if I’m the problem and IRCC is doing amazing??! I’m fighting for my rights here and instead of focusing on what is going on since 2020, me talking about something that was talked here before a few months ago became the main problem. Second job or third job or whatever, nothing change the fact that since 2020, what is going on is S C A N D A L. I lost my health and so many things and I’m not afraid of anything at this point! They stole a good portion of my life and I’m not gonna let this go!

I just got the answer for my webform request. Which is the exact copy paste of their web page lol :)))) I’m trying to contact some MPs etc at this point. Trying every way.. If not, I will go there IRCC building in Calgary and fight for my right! They destroyed my dreams. While getting paid abusing code 699. Won’t forget this.
I totally understand I have been bashed here many times and I know the anger and frustration but just let it go. IRCC took a great portion of many people lives but they dont care they are above the law. You can contact MP but doesnt matter it's a waste of time mp cant do shit.There is no forum where u can complain against IRCC. In Canadian constitution they say no one is above the law but IRCC is above the law. Instead of protesting go to federal court . Let's see what right the court gives u. They say Canada is a human rights champion who speaks on rights for the entire world. Go to the court. as proof you can show to the court how much frustrated everyone is . There is no accountability.