Hello everyone,
It's incredible ! ... Exactly as I predicted in my initial message, there were indeed many people who came to try to dissuade us IN ALL WAYS from expressing ourselves, and to work together to advance our cause and plan concrete and useful actions.
They do that either with the soft method: By trying to reassure us, and tell us that we must not stress, that everything will be fine as in the world of telletubies, and that we must have blind trust in IRCC who is looking for to find a solution quickly - while this is false, it is simply a question of totally hypotetic speculation ... For example, union of federal employees is very powerful, and will not allow a return to work anytime soon, only work from home (the last note to IRCC employees whose link has already been shared here confirms this), not to mention the other indicators I have already cited which confirm that the situation is serious and will likely last for years to come (and other years still if we do nothing) -, or they do it with the hard method: By telling us that we are not allowed to have human feelings like worrying or having legitimate concerns, or to express ourselves or to consider act any action, which will be useless anyway according to them ... Also those who look down on us, who imply that we are potential cheaters, and who tell us that it is already a privilege to be here, to consider ourselves happy with our situation and to do with it, and to be silent ... Other people who benefit from the deconfinement plans of their provinces, and who can go in person to the service canada office , the post office, and even at the Cinema! ... But who continue to invoke the pandemic to scare us and indefinitely justify the blockage ... (Because it suits them in their interior, we must not lie to ourselves)
Let’s no longer fall into their traps! ... As far as I am concerned, I would no longer respond to the provocations of these negative people, who try to discourage us with counterproductive remarks and not useful for us ... And who are quite simply OFF SUBJECT. Let's be smarter than them, I suggest not to answer them anymore.
The freedoms of speech, expression, and assembly are guaranteed by the supreme law of the country, the charter (or constitution). End of the story. Nothing more to add. We should not dwell on these procedural flaws as the lawyers say.
Back on topic .
I originally created this post to see the possibilities of benefiting from the experience of people trying to move the spousal sponsorship issue forward. Gather as much information as possible on their way of doing things, of federating, and of lobbying ... I collected some useful information:
The first thing I noticed is that these people have created a keyword, a hasstag to get together #prioritizefamilysponsorship , and that they don't hesitate to put it absolutely everywhere to have a maximum of visibility. An example that can be seen here, in an IRCC facebook post that has absolutely nothing to do with sponsorship, all comments include the unifying hasstag. See here:
https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=20/33/5bb5.jpg
What do you think of the relevance of making one? And if agree, which one do you suggest?
Now I will list what can be done in order. This is what I found, do not hesitate to say your opinions and proposals:
- Contact your federal deputies. You have to contact the one in our riding at the federal level. You have here a complete overview of ALL the deputies with their respective contact details (You have to click on the face of the deputies who concern us, then go to the `` contact '' tab to have their phone number and email address)
* Lists of deputies in English: https://www.ourcommons.ca/Members/en/search
* The same list in French: https://www.noscommunes.ca/Members/fr/recherche
In this regard, can someone write us a standard form that everyone can use, and of which only the private details of the person sending the email (name, address, telephone, etc.) should be changed?
- Call IRCC customer service to get news (They will certainly just recite a standard text to make you wait, but the more we call, the more it could possibly alert them ... For having already worked in customer support, I know that ALL calls should be logged by the agent in customer file management software. They should write a box for each call based on my experience (reason for call)
Telephone: 1-888-242-2100 (in Canada only)
Automated telephone service (available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week)
If you have a touch-tone telephone you can listen to pre-recorded information about our programs, and check the status of your application.
Client Support Center agents - Monday to Friday, 8 a.m. to 4 p.m., your local time, except for statutory holidays. Services are available in French and English.
Source: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/contact-ircc/client-support-centre.html
- Finally, the most important thing and which will have the most visibility and effectiveness in my opinion, is to hold simultaneous demonstrations in front of IRCC offices on the same day ... It will certainly attract the press, and maybe will force IRCC to at least listen and know that we exist ... The number is not important as we have seen in the case of spouses sponsors: A few demonstrators were enough. The power of the media is phenomenal, it should not be underestimated.
I think that ideally we should try to organize this before the first snowfall in the big cities where there is a local IRCC office ... The climate may discourage people from going out.
I am curious to know how the people concerned with spousal sponsorship managed to organize themselves to schedule the demonstrations, and what support or social networks they used effectively? ... Who followed the case and who can we tell more?
Thanks everyone.
, Piotr
It's incredible ! ... Exactly as I predicted in my initial message, there were indeed many people who came to try to dissuade us IN ALL WAYS from expressing ourselves, and to work together to advance our cause and plan concrete and useful actions.
They do that either with the soft method: By trying to reassure us, and tell us that we must not stress, that everything will be fine as in the world of telletubies, and that we must have blind trust in IRCC who is looking for to find a solution quickly - while this is false, it is simply a question of totally hypotetic speculation ... For example, union of federal employees is very powerful, and will not allow a return to work anytime soon, only work from home (the last note to IRCC employees whose link has already been shared here confirms this), not to mention the other indicators I have already cited which confirm that the situation is serious and will likely last for years to come (and other years still if we do nothing) -, or they do it with the hard method: By telling us that we are not allowed to have human feelings like worrying or having legitimate concerns, or to express ourselves or to consider act any action, which will be useless anyway according to them ... Also those who look down on us, who imply that we are potential cheaters, and who tell us that it is already a privilege to be here, to consider ourselves happy with our situation and to do with it, and to be silent ... Other people who benefit from the deconfinement plans of their provinces, and who can go in person to the service canada office , the post office, and even at the Cinema! ... But who continue to invoke the pandemic to scare us and indefinitely justify the blockage ... (Because it suits them in their interior, we must not lie to ourselves)
Let’s no longer fall into their traps! ... As far as I am concerned, I would no longer respond to the provocations of these negative people, who try to discourage us with counterproductive remarks and not useful for us ... And who are quite simply OFF SUBJECT. Let's be smarter than them, I suggest not to answer them anymore.
The freedoms of speech, expression, and assembly are guaranteed by the supreme law of the country, the charter (or constitution). End of the story. Nothing more to add. We should not dwell on these procedural flaws as the lawyers say.
Back on topic .
I originally created this post to see the possibilities of benefiting from the experience of people trying to move the spousal sponsorship issue forward. Gather as much information as possible on their way of doing things, of federating, and of lobbying ... I collected some useful information:
The first thing I noticed is that these people have created a keyword, a hasstag to get together #prioritizefamilysponsorship , and that they don't hesitate to put it absolutely everywhere to have a maximum of visibility. An example that can be seen here, in an IRCC facebook post that has absolutely nothing to do with sponsorship, all comments include the unifying hasstag. See here:
https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=20/33/5bb5.jpg
What do you think of the relevance of making one? And if agree, which one do you suggest?
Now I will list what can be done in order. This is what I found, do not hesitate to say your opinions and proposals:
- Contact your federal deputies. You have to contact the one in our riding at the federal level. You have here a complete overview of ALL the deputies with their respective contact details (You have to click on the face of the deputies who concern us, then go to the `` contact '' tab to have their phone number and email address)
* Lists of deputies in English: https://www.ourcommons.ca/Members/en/search
* The same list in French: https://www.noscommunes.ca/Members/fr/recherche
In this regard, can someone write us a standard form that everyone can use, and of which only the private details of the person sending the email (name, address, telephone, etc.) should be changed?
- Call IRCC customer service to get news (They will certainly just recite a standard text to make you wait, but the more we call, the more it could possibly alert them ... For having already worked in customer support, I know that ALL calls should be logged by the agent in customer file management software. They should write a box for each call based on my experience (reason for call)
Telephone: 1-888-242-2100 (in Canada only)
Automated telephone service (available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week)
If you have a touch-tone telephone you can listen to pre-recorded information about our programs, and check the status of your application.
Client Support Center agents - Monday to Friday, 8 a.m. to 4 p.m., your local time, except for statutory holidays. Services are available in French and English.
Source: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/contact-ircc/client-support-centre.html
- Finally, the most important thing and which will have the most visibility and effectiveness in my opinion, is to hold simultaneous demonstrations in front of IRCC offices on the same day ... It will certainly attract the press, and maybe will force IRCC to at least listen and know that we exist ... The number is not important as we have seen in the case of spouses sponsors: A few demonstrators were enough. The power of the media is phenomenal, it should not be underestimated.
I think that ideally we should try to organize this before the first snowfall in the big cities where there is a local IRCC office ... The climate may discourage people from going out.
I am curious to know how the people concerned with spousal sponsorship managed to organize themselves to schedule the demonstrations, and what support or social networks they used effectively? ... Who followed the case and who can we tell more?
Thanks everyone.
, Piotr
