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davek1979

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13-04-2013
skwan said:
Thank you all for your continuous support. Maybe it would be easier if I gave you a scenario to read over and if you can answer this, it would be great:

We apply for PR, my wife is granted the PR in September 2015 and we enter into Canada by October 2015 but we are only staying for four months (since we would still need to go back to Uganda and discuss about future plans). Out of the five year PR pass that she is granted, so far she has only been in the country for four months but we plan on coming back later to settle once the child becomes old enough to attend Primary School/Grade 1 - after a few years towards the beginning of the 4th year (2019) is when we decide to come and settle in Canada for X number of years.

After the PR pass expires in the 5th year (2020 in this case), does it cost another $1000 to renew it?
Can she apply for citizenship after the PR pass expires?
Or do we have to renew it and after the 2nd term (ie. 2021-2026) of PR pass that she is allowed to apply for citizenship?

In your opinion, should I still apply for PR for her at this moment or should we wait until sometime later?
Why I thought sometime later is because it is not always the easiest for an African to adjust to life in Canada right off the bat and if we don't plan to settle until later, would it not be wise to choose this direction? The times of coming during the PR (if applied for 2015) would most likely be times of visiting and/or emergency family matters.

Your input would be greatly appreciated :D
OK it is not as simple as you are making it sound. From what you have just stated above i would wait until you are actually ready to settle in Canada before you apply for PR for your wife. See the reasons below.

1) In order to maintain her status as a PR she needs to be in Canada for 730 days out of 5 years from the day she lands so if you are only going to be here for 4 months then not return for 5 years she will be allowed to return and could be reported for not completing the RO, residency obligation. CIC could then move to revoke her PR and you are back at square one starting over again.

2) She will not be able to apply for citizenship without a current PR card; but more importantly she will be to be living in Canada for 4 out of 6 years. The new rules will be in play by the time she applies for citizenship.
 

skwan

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davek1979 said:
OK it is not as simple as you are making it sound. From what you have just stated above i would wait until you are actually ready to settle in Canada before you apply for PR for your wife. See the reasons below.

1) In order to maintain her status as a PR she needs to be in Canada for 730 days out of 5 years from the day she lands so if you are only going to be here for 4 months then not return for 5 years she will be allowed to return and could be reported for not completing the RO, residency obligation. CIC could then move to revoke her PR and you are back at square one starting over again.

2) She will not be able to apply for citizenship without a current PR card; but more importantly she will be to be living in Canada for 4 out of 6 years. The new rules will be in play by the time she applies for citizenship.
Thanks for this information. As stated in the scenario, we would most likely settle in the final two years of the five years. [EDITED] By then, looks like we would have to renew the PR but will that cost another $1000 to renew the PR for the next five-year term? Found out it costs her only $50 to renew, correct?

You see, that's why we were frustrated at the fact that her visitor's visa was refused yet the government needs to also think in terms of those who are not able to adjust into the new culture/environment/weather. I understand where CIC is coming from that because of previous bad experiences, the tourist visa has become more of a way of convenience for others to land in the country and leave - BUT THIS IS NOT MY CASE. My wife is from a rural town of only 40,000-50,000 people and I know that we would not be able to settle right away since she will need to understand whether she could cope with the environment in the GTA. Even if it means we could come and settle right away to discuss, I do not want to put my wife into a situation that she could not handle and have to regret coming here because she is unable to handle the adjustments.
I've had a friend (Canadian) who married a Kenyan six years ago and when his Kenyan wife received her PR card, they settled right away. How has it been for her? She has traveled back to Kenya three times and would struggle throughout the day contemplating whether she is a Canadian or Kenyan. It took time but FINALLY after this year, she has adjusted well.
^this is what I'm considering for my wife since my friend's wife is from the city (Nairobi) in Kenya yet my wife is from a tiny rural town 8 hours away from the city in Kampala. It will be a huge change and thus why I am considering whether to apply for her PR at this moment.