Citizenship fee update ?
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Lol. They didnt do the first time when they had majority and now with a minority govt dont think they would be able to do anything!!
Thanks all for all the responses. Seems they would not go for it. As every political party presents its agenda to be forgotten, it's one of them. Lol...
Its not "agenda to forgotten" problem. When you read Discover Canada and understand how laws are passed in Canada, you would understand why they are handicapped this time to pass any laws. From what I remember the fee from 100 to 630 was done by passing a law and I do'nt think it is an administrative thing.
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OTTAWA — A new book arriving on the eve of the federal election campaign is offering policy geeks a comprehensive take on whether Justin Trudeau lived up to his 2015 vows.
At the heart of the 237-page publication — the product of work from two dozen Canadian academics — is an analysis of 353 Liberal pre-election promises and an evaluation of how many have actually been fulfilled since Trudeau’s team took office.
In short, the experts found that by March of this year Trudeau’s government had entirely followed through on about 50 per cent of its pledges, partially delivered on about 40 per cent and had broken roughly 10 per cent."
1. Sure, but it is called "buying votes" with your money. Parties try to appeal to most sections of the electorate for their votes. Then their interest wains, as they usually don't have to face the electors for (usually) another 4 years, and people have short memories. From the National Post
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OTTAWA — A new book arriving on the eve of the federal election campaign is offering policy geeks a comprehensive take on whether Justin Trudeau lived up to his 2015 vows.
At the heart of the 237-page publication — the product of work from two dozen Canadian academics — is an analysis of 353 Liberal pre-election promises and an evaluation of how many have actually been fulfilled since Trudeau’s team took office.
In short, the experts found that by March of this year Trudeau’s government had entirely followed through on about 50 per cent of its pledges, partially delivered on about 40 per cent and had broken roughly 10 per cent."
Haha, to add or counter that, When they were in majority power they could have done that. They even reverted the Citizenship laws the conservative govt had passed and they had a chance of reverting the fees too. But they didn't. And now just before elections they are promising something to the people who can't vote
. Don't think they even put that much thought to the agenda.The application fee is administrative and can be changed by an Order from the "Governor in Council," NO parliamentary action necessary. (In practical terms the "Governor in Council" is merely the PM in consultation with select Cabinet members and the PM's office, meaning mostly it is the PM's decision.)
In particular, Section 27(1) in the Citizenship Act specifically provides, in 27(1)(b), that the "Governor in Council may make regulations . . . respecting fees for services provided in the administration of this Act . . . " see https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-29/page-8.html?txthl=fees#s-27 . . . consistent with the many particular administrative matters which may be governed in regulations made by the Governor in Council (ranging from test criteria regarding knowledge of Canada to ceremonial procedures, but also including matters like the control of information as well as factors for determining if and when a hearing is required, among many others).
The latter puts decision-making about fees in perspective: the same authority for determining test questions is all that is needed to decide what the application fees are.
In any event, again, NO Parliamentary action is necessary for Trudeau to revise the fees, not even any consultation let alone vote.
Current application fee is $530 for adult applicants applying under Section 5(1) in the Citizenship Act.
Some particulars and technicalities:
The Right of Citizenship fee, $100, is specifically prescribed by Section 32 Citizenship Regulations. See https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-93-246/page-4.html#docCont
The application for grant citizenship fee is prescribed by a schedule of fees, a subsection of Section 31 in the Citizenship Regulations; in addition to the above link, for Section 31 itself, for the schedule see https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-93-246/page-5.html#docCont
Section 2 of Citizenship Regulations, No. 2 govern the requirements for making a grant citizenship application (grant citizenship application under Section 5(1) in the Citizenship Act), and this regulation includes subsection 2(1)(i), which specifies that evidence of fee payment is required to make a grant citizenship application, referring to Sections 31 and 32 in the Citizenship Regulations. See https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2015-124/page-1.html#h-816809
Section 13(c) in the Citizenship Act also prescribes that fees must accompany ANY application for it to be "accepted for processing." See https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-29/page-5.html?txthl=fees#s-13
No change in governing statutes, including the Citizenship Act, is necessary to change processing fees for grant citizenship.
I very recently posted these details, with additional commentary, in another topic about this same subject. See link in partial quote below for that discussion:
Note that one of the multiple increases in fees implemented during the Harper era was done with NO notice. Applications already mailed but not yet received were returned for insufficient fees.
Thanks for the information. So Do you recommend waiting for the fees to reduce?
That's a very good question especially for families with more adult members eligible for citizenship.
I steer well wide of making recommendations other than the obvious conventional wisdom; for example, I will recommend that applicants FOLLOW the INSTRUCTIONS and be HONEST.
Campaign promises, let alone those campaign propositions which fall short of being a promise, tend to blow in the wind. Who knows which way the wind will blow.
In the other topic there is a link (posted by another forum participant) to a media article discussing this subject. A key factor is the huge cost, which that article estimated to be in the HUNRDEDS of MILLIONS of dollars. Obviously a significant reduction in fees let alone outright eliminating them is not a decision to be made without deliberate study and conscientious analysis. It would be a big deal. A big government expense. And notwithstanding no need for parliamentary action let alone approval, there are many, many Canadians who are not particularly immigrant friendly whose outrage is rather easily incited, and they tend to be those in the Provinces which already are vociferously riled with just the fact of a Liberal government, a constituency which the Trudeau government appears anxious to make peace with. Thus, even though technically the MPs from Alberta and Saskatchewan have no say, there is a rather strong political wind blowing off the prairies which Trudeau may not want to try sailing against.
Campaign promises, let alone those campaign propositions which fall short of being a promise, tend to blow in the wind. Who knows which way the wind will blow.
In the other topic there is a link (posted by another forum participant) to a media article discussing this subject. A key factor is the huge cost, which that article estimated to be in the HUNRDEDS of MILLIONS of dollars. Obviously a significant reduction in fees let alone outright eliminating them is not a decision to be made without deliberate study and conscientious analysis. It would be a big deal. A big government expense. And notwithstanding no need for parliamentary action let alone approval, there are many, many Canadians who are not particularly immigrant friendly whose outrage is rather easily incited, and they tend to be those in the Provinces which already are vociferously riled with just the fact of a Liberal government, a constituency which the Trudeau government appears anxious to make peace with. Thus, even though technically the MPs from Alberta and Saskatchewan have no say, there is a rather strong political wind blowing off the prairies which Trudeau may not want to try sailing against.