In regards to having to read my sentences a few times to understand them, sorry. I realize my style of writing is cumbersome, my vocabulary and diction more formal than casual, making it more difficult to read. I envy and admire those here who state things more succinctly. I have excuses (always), including the fact that going into more depth and detail, which is what I mostly do, demands carefully navigating nuances, requiring more clarifications and caveats and all sorts of well, if this, then that, but if that, then that other. Again, sorry. Doing the best I can.
Another problem that we have, we applied for the Pr ( pr expired 15 days ago) we have have applied for the new card,she has been waiting for her new card since september 22, 2023. I am not sure if the lengthy citizinship application and problem with physical presence somehow interfeared with Pr renewal application. The question i have; can we apply for the citizenship again while the Pr card is expired!?
She can apply for citizenship even though she does not have a valid PR card.
Valid PR status does NOT depend on having a valid PR card.
Generally the fact that a citizenship application has gotten tangled in non-routine processing will have NO impact on a PR card application, and likewise regarding the converse. HOWEVER, unresolved underlying issues in one (thus slowing things down in processing that application) may also be relevant in the other, so when one gets bogged down in non-routine processing and the
why of that (the reason for it) is relevant to both, that issue will need addressing and resolution before either one reaches a final outcome.
Leading to . . .
A CAVEAT: perhaps I should have more clearly couched some previous observations with a caution about other issues not directly related to physical presence credit. When I noted, for example, that the timeline to proceed to a CJ hearing appears to be extraordinarily long, and that this is likely longer than it will take to get to the oath with a new application, I parenthetically mentioned that this was "
assuming there are no security, criminality, or status-related issues."
So, perhaps I should have been more clear that separate from physical presence verification, for someone who was in Canada for such a lengthy time without valid resident status, there may be a higher risk of other issues, such as status-related inquiries needing attention, causing a longer processing time-line. Just what may be at issue depends on the specific individual's situation and history.