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Best part of his speak was the fact that he will implement all the changes in express entry in the fall as well, not just announce them.
 

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The questions I have asked before is what makes people think only International Students can adjust to life in Canada? A lot of Outland applicants can adjust the same way International Students adjusted. I am almost certain that most of international students moved to Canada from developing countries. How were they able to adapt? As difficult as it is to get a job in Canada, I have had friends that relocated to Canada and got professional jobs within a month of Landing. On the short run, International Students might be better but on the long run, it will be difficult to specifically determine who will benefit Canada economy more.
I agree with a lot of ur post except this part. I also like to say u did not write it as a hater which is really good thank you for that. now let me answer ur question.
International students are already in canada and have adjusted there is no question about they will adjust or not. This is cause they studied in Canada for 2+ years. Since they graduated means they were successful. Then they have a job for 1 + year in Canada which again tells me they r already successful ofcourse there r exceptions but then those wont qualify for CEC if they dont have a job. int student were able to adapt cause they get to learn about Canada at a learning institution (college/university). In any case int students r better as Canada will know what they r getting rather than people who r from outside whose exp or education is not easily verifiable. So what I am saying is if int student has a job it means he has competed with Canadians to get that job. When an outside gets a PR no one has taken his interview and he has not competed personally with anyone other that some documents which can easily be fabricated in 3rd world countries(no offense meant). So number of bad apples Canada will get as a int students will be lesser than from outland applicants in the long run.
 

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I'm all for increasing the number of points awarded for studying and gaining work experience here in Canada, if that helps more graduates get settled, but I fail to see why the number points awarded for LMIAs should be reduced? Admittedly I'm biased, since it was largely thanks to an LMIA that I was able to apply for and receive an ITA (still patiently award PR), but it feels to me as though a document that costs an employer thousands of dollars and can take several months to obtain should carry significantly more weight than the proposed 200 points. I also don't see why it should carry any less weight than a Provincial Nomination. After all, a positive LMIA is essentially a nomination made by the free market, should that not be an equally strong indicator of an applicant's candidacy for Permanent Residency?
 

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CECMay said:
I'm all for increasing the number of points awarded for studying and gaining work experience here in Canada, if that helps more graduates get settled, but I fail to see why the number points awarded for LMIAs should be reduced? Admittedly I'm biased, since it was largely thanks to an LMIA that I was able to apply for and receive an ITA (still patiently award PR), but it feels to me as though a document that costs an employer thousands of dollars and can take several months to obtain should carry significantly more weight than the proposed 200 points. I also don't see why it should carry any less weight than a Provincial Nomination. After all, a positive LMIA is essentially a nomination made by the free market, should that not be an equally strong indicator of an applicant's candidacy for Permanent Residency?
thats the problem they want candidates with more human capital points and from 2015 data it seems like with LMIA low human capital point candidates were getting selected and was causing imbalance. so u see 16% were from food industry. This industry had LMIA already as they hire lots of TFW's so its easy for the employer. So lets say a coffee chain hires TFW they have to do LMIA now once done they can get n number of TFW for the same job and all of them will get PR due to EE. So 2015 showed the system imbalance. I dont think the approach of reducing LMIA points will do anything but lets see what they come up with.
 

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andy108 said:
Will this need to be approved by parliament? This is a major immigration reform.
Minister will present his proposal in front of the Parliament and if majority agreed (Which in this case is quite positive) then changes can take place immediate, as it is not a change in any Law.

He also mentioned about the changes in C60 ( Act of citizenship ), this will take some more time because they have to change the law for this.
 

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CECMay said:
I'm all for increasing the number of points awarded for studying and gaining work experience here in Canada, if that helps more graduates get settled, but I fail to see why the number points awarded for LMIAs should be reduced? Admittedly I'm biased, since it was largely thanks to an LMIA that I was able to apply for and receive an ITA (still patiently award PR), but it feels to me as though a document that costs an employer thousands of dollars and can take several months to obtain should carry significantly more weight than the proposed 200 points. I also don't see why it should carry any less weight than a Provincial Nomination. After all, a positive LMIA is essentially a nomination made by the free market, should that not be an equally strong indicator of an applicant's candidacy for Permanent Residency?
Like mead already explained. The whole point of LMIA is to help the low-skilled applicants with low human capital points getting PRs. However, it becomes a problem when Canada receives more cooks/cashiers than software devs and accountants, so they plan to significantly reduce the extra points for LMIA, and allows low-skilled workers to apply through Express Entry.

If you have high points for human capital factors, then getting 200 points from LMIA still more than enough to secure an ITA.
 

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I don't know the research you are reffering to, but I absolutely disagree. As a former international student with 2 years of Canadian work experience, I can tell you, there is nothing more important than these two factors. When I came here, I was very confident (like most FSW applicants) but living here and imaginations are really different. I learned a lot about Canadian thinking and Canadians in school, and I also learned the Canadian way of the profession I studied. Working and surviving during school was not easy, but it taught me how to live and use my skills in this country. I learned a lot at my workplace as well. Just simply doing my job in a foreign language was not as easy as I imagined.

I'm not against FSW applicants, but most of them underestimate the efforts and values of inland applicants and it's not fair. We're also struggling in the system now, and most of us would need to go back home without an ITA, after losing everything during the years in our home countries. FSW applicants are still "just" waiting in safe positions, but for us, this is the biggest risk of our lives. So anybody who thinks the years we spent here are not that important is really mistaken. And answering in advance: "you knew you would have to go home..." Most people came here to stay, but those days EE didn't exist, and we had to find our ways. We chose the hard and costly way, because there was no other choice...

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