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Alexios07

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Pawshi said:
is the education a business? If yes, I am ready to buy the degree to become a PR.
You act like it's very easy to get a degree from Canada. No one forced us to come to Canada, we came here on our free will, we paid the fee to get the Canadian education, and Canada got our money. Win-Win

Now we are able to find good jobs and start paying taxes to Canada again, so the government wants to reward us for something we did for them before. We chose to study in Canada, instead of Australia or New Zealand. Why it is so hard to understand? are you jelly because you didn't want to spend your money here in Canada?

We didn't do anything illegal, we studied, we got job and now we try to get PR like everyone else.
 

sojugeorge_1

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How about being student,getting minimum 1 year full time work experience in respective noc,getting licence for regulated profession and getting PR ?
 

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In addition, people here trying to act stupid as they keep talking about international students demand PR right after graduation. CEC applicants are not international students, we are FORMER international students, who now are workers with PGWP.
 

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Alexios07 said:
In addition, people here trying to act stupid as they keep talking about international students demand PR right after graduation. CEC applicants are not international students, we are FORMER international students, who now are workers with PGWP.
And its not easy to get a job after graduation BTW, its not bread and butter and the moment you finish your school you will get a job right away!!
 

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If they want to give huge points make it another stream.
Because there are those students with Canadian high level of education such as masters eligible only under only FSW because of lack of Canadian work experience but previous foreign work experience, which makes them eligible under Express Entry straightaway.
 

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Immigrants with foreign degrees cannot find jobs related to their occupation in Canada, mainly NOC A. No matter where, in which developed English-speaking country and how much work experience you had in a developed English-speaking country, employers would still prefer immigrants with Canadian education. Read this article to broaden your knowledge:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/immigration-employment-canada-1.3831468

That's why the government want to resolve credential issue by seeking international students in their target. Enjoy your reading!
 

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Elrud said:
Immigrants with foreign degrees cannot find jobs related to their occupation in Canada, mainly NOC A. No matter where, in which developed English-speaking country and how much work experience you had in a developed English-speaking country, employers would still prefer immigrants with Canadian education. Read this article to broaden your knowledge:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/immigration-employment-canada-1.3831468

That's why the government want to resolve credential issue by seeking international students in their target. Enjoy your reading!

The only exception of someone with a foreign degree is Francophone, of course, who will prevail over a non-Francophone with Canadian education. Well that's my thoughts.
 

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I am counting down from your topic's subject "in less than a week"
Assume the most days left from the day you posted, which is 6 days, there are 5 days left now.
 

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Elrud said:
Because there are those students with Canadian high level of education such as masters eligible only under only FSW because of lack of Canadian work experience but previous foreign work experience, which makes them eligible under Express Entry straightaway.
Getting full master in Canade will give you usually access to 3 years post gradual work permit. With just 1 year working in canada you will qualify under CEC.


What you lack on work experience points when it comes to the first point part, you do catch up with ideal age range.

Labour market Works on demand and supply. It is nice that you have studied something very difficult, if there is very little demand to your specialisation. In that case it is up to you to understand it and do following:
1. do the necesary steps to be able to get one of those few opened positions
2. Respecialise or take survival jobs while you will be improving yourself
3. or sit at home a cry about your bitter fate.


And just for the fun sake,
I did simulation for following:
Mater degree graduate under 29 with 2 years of work experience in Canada and no international experience and CBL 9 for language score. I got 497 points.

If I lowered the language to the admition level of CBL 7 it was still 459 points

So if you can achieve all that in "study in Canada package", what went wrong if average international student graduate has around 380 points?
 

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vensak said:
Getting full master in Canade will give you usually access to 3 years post gradual work permit. With just 1 year working in canada you will qualify under CEC.


What you lack on work experience points when it comes to the first point part, you do catch up with ideal age range.

Labour market Works on demand and supply. It is nice that you have studied something very difficult, if there is very little demand to your specialisation. In that case it is up to you to understand it and do following:
1. do the necesary steps to be able to get one of those few opened positions
2. Respecialise or take survival jobs while you will be improving yourself
3. or sit at home a cry about your bitter fate.


And just for the fun sake,
I did simulation for following:
Mater degree graduate under 29 with 2 years of work experience in Canada and no international experience and CBL 9 for language score. I got 497 points.

If I lowered the language to the admition level of CBL 7 it was still 459 points

So if you can achieve all that in "study in Canada package", what went wrong if average international student graduate has around 380 points?
Some masters from good universities are 1-year and these universities want to preserve their reputation rather than tailoring it to 2 years like some colleges did.

Also, for most high-skilled NOC A, it is difficult to find work in your occupation.

Why wait to gain 1-year of work experience in order to become eligible under CEC where you can be eligible straightaway under FSW under Express Entry because of your previous work experience, if any.
 

vensak

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Elrud said:
Some masters from good universities are 1-year and these universities want to preserve their reputation rather than tailoring it to 2 years like some colleges did.

Also, for most high-skilled NOC A, it is difficult to find work in your occupation.

Why wait to gain 1-year of work experience in order to become eligible under CEC where you can be eligible straightaway under FSW under Express Entry because of your previous work experience, if any.
1. if you choose something for which is just very small demand it is your choice and you have to live with it. if there is no demand for your specialisation at the moment take what is demand for.
2. Your job experience for EE system does not have to be your studies related as long as it is skilled job
3. That simulation was concluding, that you did full University studies in Canada (like full 4 or 5 years). Or at least that you did more than 2 years studies
4. Would I change it to 2 university credential (as you cannot study Master in Canada without having some diploma before), It would even jump to 522 points. (53 of those points were for work in Canada).
5. Even if you do not get 3 years post gradual work permit, but just 1, you can still most likely qualify for another year in programm opened for all young people under 35.
 

Elrud

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vensak said:
Getting full master in Canade will give you usually access to 3 years post gradual work permit. With just 1 year working in canada you will qualify under CEC.


What you lack on work experience points when it comes to the first point part, you do catch up with ideal age range.

Labour market Works on demand and supply. It is nice that you have studied something very difficult, if there is very little demand to your specialisation. In that case it is up to you to understand it and do following:
1. do the necesary steps to be able to get one of those few opened positions
2. Respecialise or take survival jobs while you will be improving yourself
3. or sit at home a cry about your bitter fate.


And just for the fun sake,
I did simulation for following:
Mater degree graduate under 29 with 2 years of work experience in Canada and no international experience and CBL 9 for language score. I got 497 points.

If I lowered the language to the admition level of CBL 7 it was still 459 points

So if you can achieve all that in "study in Canada package", what went wrong if average international student graduate has around 380 points?
It's not just a matter to gain Canadian work experience but what matters is whether it is related to your field of study.

That has been the issue recently, many NOC A students in study field engaged in NOC inferior permissible in order to become eligible under CEC, creating a low-wage workforce.
 

Elrud

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vensak said:
1. if you choose something for which is just very small demand it is your choice and you have to live with it. if there is no demand for your specialisation at the moment take what is demand for.
2. Your job experience for EE system does not have to be your studies related as long as it is skilled job
3. That simulation was concluding, that you did full University studies in Canada (like full 4 or 5 years). Or at least that you did more than 2 years studies
4. Would I change it to 2 university credential (as you cannot study Master in Canada without having some diploma before), It would even jump to 522 points. (53 of those points were for work in Canada).
5. Even if you do not get 3 years post gradual work permit, but just 1, you can still most likely qualify for another year in programm opened for all young people under 35.
The in-demand occupation reasoning is no longer relevant. This is outdated pre-Express Entry.

Express Entry is open to almost all occupations to any field of study.

The 2-year study duration is also not relevant as no points are awarded under CRS.

It is not the duration that matters but the level of study.
 

sojugeorge_1

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[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v4bYzeSWgP4] [Canada's Immigration Minister John McCallum in Shri Darbar sahib amritsar - YouTube] is good,have a look at it!

There are too many other things not three.