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Please sign this petition from change.org . We can help each other. Just copy link to your browser:

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Processing time recently has been changed from 11 months to 17 months. :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
 

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Please write your idea for me. I try to talk to some MP and give them these results from petition. :) :) :)
 

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The processing time on the website is not accurate. It mostly depends on what visa-office your application is sent to. 17 months means that 80% of the applications are processed by the 17 month mark. Most applications take less time than that, depending on the visa office of course.
 
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For example, my wife's processing time is 30 months, but she got her visa in 6.

No petition necessary, just create a very thorough and strong application.
 

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Did you read the petition and then wrote your reply or not? Personally, I review lots of E-Note of the applicant who requested from CIC. The strongness or weakness of the application is not related to processing time. Also for lots of visa office, this processing time is more than 20 months. I am talking about an important case that CIC won't give you any information until processing time is finished. I am talking about the guy who worked in the Canadian university before for 2 years. Then he married and now also he is inside Canada. His application is for outside Canada and not only him...there are 100000 people every year have this pain. if your wife got her visa it doesn't mean everyone will lucky as you and you do not need be responsible regarding other people.
 

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Decoy24601 said:
The processing time on the website is not accurate. It mostly depends on what visa-office your application is sent to. 17 months means that 80% of the applications are processed by the 17 month mark. Most applications take less time than that, depending on the visa office of course.
As I and one MP who contact CIC in 2016.02.10 the CIC believed that the processing time is accurate and because they are reviewing refugees then the processing time has been increased.
 

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Re: Change processing time for Spousal Sponsorship less than 6 months - petition

I know this isn't what you want to hear - but it's a poorly written petition. The explanation of the issue contains inaccuracies - the requested resolution isn't clear. I think that's one of the reasons you're not getting a lot of support there.
 

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mikeymyke said:
For example, my wife's processing time is 30 months, but she got her visa in 6.

No petition necessary, just create a very thorough and strong application.
Im glad your wife did it in such a short time, and i would ask you to go to the page
Call the backlog in facebook, and you will have the chance to see how many ppl is suffering
from been apart for even years.
 

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mikeymyke said:
For example, my wife's processing time is 30 months, but she got her visa in 6.

No petition necessary, just create a very thorough and strong application.

Foreign Spouses Trapped in Canada Due to Sponsorship Backlog

In Ottawa it is now going to take double the time than it already does to process immigration applications for foreign spouses already living in Canada. This has driven fear that the “inland sponsorship program” could be eliminated.

Canada allows a foreign national married to a Canadian to apply for sponsorship in the country if they are already there legally. Spouses could also apply from their home countries but most prefer the in-Canada route so that they don’t have to give up their jobs and careers or be separated from their wives or husbands for years while their application is being processed.

A two-step process is applied to both inland and overseas applicants - initial assessment of the sponsor’s eligibility and then an examination of the sponsored spouse, which involves health and criminal clearances.

The waiting period has now been increased from six months to 11 for the in-Canada applicants to get past the first stage.

Such delays in sponsorship processing have caused financial and emotional stress for thousands of Canadian couples.

More than 8,000 new in-Canada applications are processed each year and it is estimated that many more are backlogged.

Kathryn Abercrombie, 41, and James Bordwine, 35, got married in March 2013 and applied in October for James’ sponsorship. The two have lived on Kathryn’s income while Bordwine, a computer network security specialist, is jobless at home. In February, Kathryn got a $50,000 second mortgage to help pay off the bills.

“I could afford a home and scrape by with my single income. It would’ve been so much easier if James could work. It’s not cheap to live in Toronto,” she said. “A few weeks ago, he cut his fingers. Instead of going to the hospital to get stitches, we just had them wrapped.”

Alexis Pavlich, spokesperson for Immigration Minister Chris Alexander, blames the former Liberal governments for reducing immigration levels and making huge backlogs that the Conservatives have been “working diligently to fix” since they came into power.

“Family reunification is an integral part of our immigration program. Canada has one of the most generous family reunification programs in the world. . . Shamefully, under the Liberals, families had to wait decades to be reunited,” said Pavlich. “Our government is actively working to shorten wait times.”

Adel Karsou, 34, who applied for his Jordanian wife, Rana Shiha, 27, last year, is not convinced. He feels that temporary foreign workers are the real priorities for the government.

According to Citizenship and Immigration Canada, the initial assessment of spousal sponsorships filed overseas takes 55 days, compared to 11 months for the in-Canada applicants.

But the second-phase screening can take anywhere from nine months in Beijing to 32 months in Islamabad (compared to the average of eight months for inland applicants), thus bringing the overall processing time for both routes at par with each other.

Even though immigration officials say that applicants are free to decide whether to apply in or outside Canada, a letter from Alexander’s office as obtained by the Star clearly mentioned the government’s preference: “It is always in the client’s best interests to apply abroad.”

The same letter which was addressed to a disgruntled Canadian sponsor further said, “There are distinct disadvantages to applying from within Canada, including noticeably longer processing times, lack of status, inability to work and ineligibility for provincial/territorial health insurance coverage.”

In another case, Justin Laufer, 40, remembers how his American wife, Kirsten Laufer, 33, could not visit her father who was hospitalized for a seizure earlier this year because her sponsorship would be deemed abandoned if she left Canada.

“She’d like nothing more than to see her father,” said Laufer. “These sponsored spouses may be foreigners now, but they are on track to be future citizens. Kirsten is going to be a voter one day and she will remember her treatment by our elected officials.”

Source: The Star
 

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mikeymyke said:
For example, my wife's processing time is 30 months, but she got her visa in 6.

No petition necessary, just create a very thorough and strong application.
One of the most frustrating aspects of immigration is how long it takes to get approved. This is particularly so in spousal sponsorship cases. For example, let’s say an American marries a Canadian. Where do they stand in terms of processing times for their cases?

In the United States, the processing times published by the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service look quite reasonable to the untrained eye. Once you check under the hood, however, things appear differently.

Delays, Delays, Delays

For example, an I-130 petition by a U.S. citizen (USC) to sponsor their foreign spouse takes about five months. Might sound fair. But that is not the end of the journey. For foreign spouses inside the U.S., once the petition is approved, that foreign spouse has to adjust their current visitor, worker or student status to permanent residency. That part of the application, the adjustment, currently takes about five months, too. In other words, on average, the whole process is going to take you about a year.

Not great, but at least your spouse is with you throughout that time and if you file an application for a work permit for them while you are waiting, they can be working in about eight months. Hopefully you will have an income and a lifestyle that won’t make this eight month lull in their paychecks a hardship.

Once the sponsored spouse has the work permit, the rest of the application process is just a matter of waiting it out. However, that is not the case with foreign spouses outside the United States.

Foreign Spouses Applying Outside The U.S.

For foreign spouses outside the U.S., the post-I-130 petition process begins with the National Visa Center (NVC), the quarterback of the U.S. Consular system. It is the job of the NVC to collect all of the paperwork needed to process an application overseas and then to hand it off to a U.S. Consulate for adjudication and approval. This is where things get bogged down.
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According to a recent report, the NVC processes 2.6 million cases per year and out of those, about 100,000 are spousal cases. From the numbers provided in this report, one can calculate that they deal with over 20,000 pieces of mail every day. That’s a lot of mail.

Anyone who has dealt with the NVC lately knows that they are severely backlogged. They cannot even look at a piece of urgent mail until it has been in their office for around 2 months. In one case I had, we struggled to get the NVC to expedite an application for a foreign spouse who was dying from cancer so she could join her U.S. citizen sponsor. Urgent e-mails were sent and phone calls were made and still it took four months for the matter to be approved.

My experience is that normal cases can expect at least a four to six month delay at the NVC before the file moves to a U.S. Consular post for an interview and final processing. In other words, foreign-based spouses are very likely to wait at least a year before they are approved for immigration to the United States. That’s a long time to be away from your spouse.

Any way you slice it, U.S. processing times for sponsored spouses is taking too long. To draw an analogy showing what government can do when they want to, take the example of the Desert Storm war. It took former President H Bush (senior) just 42 days to mobilize millions of troops, thousands of vehicles and dozens of countries to fight and win Desert Storm. If President Bush could do that in 42 days, why can’t the USCIS process a spousal case in less than one year?

Is Canada Any Better?

The short answer is no, it’s even worse. If you think 10 to 12 months is a long time to wait from your spouse to be approved, try waiting two years, as an internal spousal sponsorship case in Canada will take 25 months to process.

Recently, the Canadian Minister of Citizenship and Immigration announced a new program to enable a foreign spouses awaiting approval inside Canada to apply for a work permit. According to the announcement, processing of the work permits should take about four months. Yet there are complications related to this process for many spouses, to the point where some of them can’t work for a year and a half.

Work permits aside, if you look at “normal” processing times for foreign spouses just to come to Canada, the processing time is easily going to be a year and in some cases such as London, Los Angeles, Mexico or Pakistan up to three years. Can you imagine waiting three years for your spouse to join you in Canada? Clearly this needs to be improved.

Speed It Up

Both countries could do much better in speeding up the spousal sponsorship process. If an applicant provides a marriage certificate from a credible source, there is no reason why that foreign spouse should be delayed in entering either the U.S. or Canada. Such a spouse should be approved quickly – certainly no longer than necessary to do a police check and medical clearance. Later, according to rules already in place in both countries dealing with recently married couples, they should have to satisfy immigration officials that they have lived together in a genuine marriage for at least two years. This would then remove any conditions on their permanent status. If the couple flunks this test and the marriage proves to be bogus, then the foreign spouse would be deported.

The current system of delays does nothing to help married couples or the country they wish to live in. Get these applications approved, get people working and paying taxes, and let people get on with their lives.

Andy J. Semotiuk is a U.S. and Canadian immigration lawyer with offices in New York and Toronto. He is a published author and a former UN correspondent. Learn more at My Work Visa.
 
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All of this information you're posting relates to inland processing. The processing times are extremely long for inland. If you want a shorter processing time, you should be applying outland instead. Apply outland + visitor visa. Applicant benefits from outland's short processing times, ability to appeal a negative decision, ability to freely leave Canada at any time, while the visitor visa allows the applicant to physically be with the sponsor. Inland really is a horrific choice for most people. No ability to appeal, applicant is basically stuck in Canada for 2+ years and cannot leave for any reason, extremely long processing times. You might argue that the inland route allows the applicant to get an OWP so that they can work, but with outland, the applicant can still continue to work in his/her country and also be able to visit the sponsor with a visitor visa.

If you look at my timeline and my signature, you can see my wife is from Vietnam, which is extremely difficult to get a visitor visa from, and has one of the longest processing times in the world at 30 months. She not only got her PR visa in 6 months, she was also able to get a visitor visa valid for the life of her passport. She could just simply stay in Canada with me until she gets PR with her visitor visa, or she could go back to her home country to continue working, it doesn't matter either way because she got her PR in 6 months rather than waiting 2 years for it through inland. You might think that applying inland is great because you get to stay with your spouse until PR, but that's not so great when you want to go on vacation somewhere, a family member is dying/severely ill, etc, and since you've applied inland, you cannot leave the country.

People should really stop going through the inland route as I feel its a horrendous choice for most people, and I kind of shake my head when I'm seeing Americans applying inland, as they really have no reason to.
 

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mikeymyke said:
All of this information you're posting relates to inland processing. The processing times are extremely long for inland. If you want a shorter processing time, you should be applying outland instead. Apply outland + visitor visa. Applicant benefits from outland's short processing times, ability to appeal a negative decision, ability to freely leave Canada at any time, while the visitor visa allows the applicant to physically be with the sponsor. Inland really is a horrific choice for most people. No ability to appeal, applicant is basically stuck in Canada for 2+ years and cannot leave for any reason, extremely long processing times. You might argue that the inland route allows the applicant to get an OWP so that they can work, but with outland, the applicant can still continue to work in his/her country and also be able to visit the sponsor with a visitor visa.

If you look at my timeline and my signature, you can see my wife is from Vietnam, which is extremely difficult to get a visitor visa from, and has one of the longest processing times in the world at 30 months. She not only got her PR visa in 6 months, she was also able to get a visitor visa valid for the life of her passport. She could just simply stay in Canada with me until she gets PR with her visitor visa, or she could go back to her home country to continue working, it doesn't matter either way because she got her PR in 6 months rather than waiting 2 years for it through inland. You might think that applying inland is great because you get to stay with your spouse until PR, but that's not so great when you want to go on vacation somewhere, a family member is dying/severely ill, etc, and since you've applied inland, you cannot leave the country.

People should really stop going through the inland route as I feel its a horrendous choice for most people, and I kind of shake my head when I'm seeing Americans applying inland, as they really have no reason to.
Mikey, Visitor visa is a lotery,

A lawyer specializing in human rights and immigration believes that the Canadian immigration system is discriminatory when granting visitor visas.

Former Canadian delegate to the United Nations David Matas believes it is "almost impossible" for a tourist to visit Canada, if they do not meet certain "generic criteria," because Citizenship and Immigration Canada wants to make sure that visitors return to their home country when their visa expires instead of making a refugee claim.

'For these countries, I think there is discrimination. [CIC] does not consider the circumstances of individuals, it considers generic criteria.'
- David Matas

This is often the case when the applicant is from a country plagued by political or economic instability, Matas said.

"For these countries, I think there is discrimination. [CIC] does not consider the circumstances of individuals, it considers generic criteria such as: Are you rich? Do you have children?," he said.

Matas' comments come after a case of a Saskatchewan man who has been struggling to bring his parents to visit Canada for 13 years. Patrick Kongawi blames the constant refusal of visa applications on the fact that they are citizens of the Democratic Republic of Congo.

'I just want to see my family,' Sask. man yearns for parents to visit Canada
Sask. man spends 13 years fighting Immigration to allow family to visit Canada

"My experience is if you are, for instance a single, young woman trying to get a visa in a country like that (DRC), it's almost impossible because you simply don't meet the characteristics they're looking for."

Under the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, nationals of 148 countries, mainly in Africa, the Middle East and South America need a visa to visit Canada.
Underfunded system

Matas argues that the immigration system is underfunded and that visa officers are overloaded.

"I think what complicates the matter is that the visa officers are overwhelmed, overworked, underfunded and they tend to make decisions very quickly on the basis of simple characteristics rather than looking profoundly into the facts of the case," he said.

This forces them to assess applications for visitor visas according to general criteria, rather than individual cases, he said.

For 13 years, CIC refused visitor visas to members Patrick Kongawi's family.

Kongawi moved to Saskatchewan 22 years ago from the Democratic Republic of Congo. He came to Canada with a study permit, but claimed refugee status for fear of becoming a child soldier back home. He has since become a Canadian citizen.

Immigration officials were not convinced that his relatives would return to their country after their visas expired.

From 2004 to 2015, Canada declined on average 18 per cent of applications for visitor visas in all countries. During the same period, the average percentage of visas denied to nationals of the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) was 58 per cent.

This is sayd by an expert in human rights, immigration, David Matas, the process is not like to say from today until tomorrow, but everybody know that theres ways to get both of the process short in all matters,
 

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expectin said:
One of the most frustrating aspects of immigration is how long it takes to get approved. This is particularly so in spousal sponsorship cases. For example, let’s say an American marries a Canadian. Where do they stand in terms of processing times for their cases?

In the United States, the processing times published by the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service look quite reasonable to the untrained eye. Once you check under the hood, however, things appear differently.

Delays, Delays, Delays
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If you're going to directly paste words from a Forbes article, at least source what you're saying: http://www.forbes.com/sites/andyjsemotiuk/2015/03/11/spousal-immigration-processing-times-cause-frustration/#2f4e7e5f6276

Also, it's better to actually link people to the article rather than pasting large amounts of text from it.

Most of your information doesn't even apply to what is being discussed in this thread...
 

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mikeymyke said:
All of this information you're posting relates to inland processing. The processing times are extremely long for inland. If you want a shorter processing time, you should be applying outland instead. Apply outland + visitor visa. Applicant benefits from outland's short processing times, ability to appeal a negative decision, ability to freely leave Canada at any time, while the visitor visa allows the applicant to physically be with the sponsor. Inland really is a horrific choice for most people. No ability to appeal, applicant is basically stuck in Canada for 2+ years and cannot leave for any reason, extremely long processing times. You might argue that the inland route allows the applicant to get an OWP so that they can work, but with outland, the applicant can still continue to work in his/her country and also be able to visit the sponsor with a visitor visa.

If you look at my timeline and my signature, you can see my wife is from Vietnam, which is extremely difficult to get a visitor visa from, and has one of the longest processing times in the world at 30 months. She not only got her PR visa in 6 months, she was also able to get a visitor visa valid for the life of her passport. She could just simply stay in Canada with me until she gets PR with her visitor visa, or she could go back to her home country to continue working, it doesn't matter either way because she got her PR in 6 months rather than waiting 2 years for it through inland. You might think that applying inland is great because you get to stay with your spouse until PR, but that's not so great when you want to go on vacation somewhere, a family member is dying/severely ill, etc, and since you've applied inland, you cannot leave the country.

People should really stop going through the inland route as I feel its a horrendous choice for most people, and I kind of shake my head when I'm seeing Americans applying inland, as they really have no reason to.
Inland and Out-land have no deference. Both are painful. I didn't write it. I just share it. However, if you write massive petition you need 5000 sign. Other issue, with visitor visa can you work? I mention her wife is pregnant (sponsor)! her EI is finished!
 

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mikeymyke said:
All of this information you're posting relates to inland processing. The processing times are extremely long for inland. If you want a shorter processing time, you should be applying outland instead. Apply outland + visitor visa. Applicant benefits from outland's short processing times, ability to appeal a negative decision, ability to freely leave Canada at any time, while the visitor visa allows the applicant to physically be with the sponsor. Inland really is a horrific choice for most people. No ability to appeal, applicant is basically stuck in Canada for 2+ years and cannot leave for any reason, extremely long processing times. You might argue that the inland route allows the applicant to get an OWP so that they can work, but with outland, the applicant can still continue to work in his/her country and also be able to visit the sponsor with a visitor visa.

If you look at my timeline and my signature, you can see my wife is from Vietnam, which is extremely difficult to get a visitor visa from, and has one of the longest processing times in the world at 30 months. She not only got her PR visa in 6 months, she was also able to get a visitor visa valid for the life of her passport. She could just simply stay in Canada with me until she gets PR with her visitor visa, or she could go back to her home country to continue working, it doesn't matter either way because she got her PR in 6 months rather than waiting 2 years for it through inland. You might think that applying inland is great because you get to stay with your spouse until PR, but that's not so great when you want to go on vacation somewhere, a family member is dying/severely ill, etc, and since you've applied inland, you cannot leave the country.

People should really stop going through the inland route as I feel its a horrendous choice for most people, and I kind of shake my head when I'm seeing Americans applying inland, as they really have no reason to.
Are you CIC officer? Personally, my question is, why you are disagree with this policy? I didn't write this petition but I am read it and it is clear for me at least. The processing time is long and they should reduce it. It is family the basic of the society. If you have better writing or idea, write it and give it to me. If you just against of other tell your reason.