Change.org Petition for Inland Applicants( Please sign)

[civic]

IMHO, it would not be wise for a person without status to sign this petition, in case it ruffles a few feathers at CIC or CBSA.

People will get kicked out because they stand against some certain ways CIC do things?

 

[Ponga]

People will get kicked out because they stand against some certain ways CIC do things?

People without legal status can get kicked out for simply being in Canada while their Inland application is being processed. It has NOTHING to do with their stance against how/why CIC does what it does.

Why attract attention to yourself, when you're trying to `live' under the radar, per se?

 

[Ponga]

Besides...I was the one that gave you the information about the CBC reporter, so...that at least tells you that I understand your need to protest.

Still haven't been thanked for that!

 

[Rob_TO]

IMHO, it would not be wise for a person without status to sign this petition, in case it ruffles a few feathers at CIC or CBSA.

To be perfectly honest, CIC will not even look at this petition unless it gets hundreds of thousands of signatures, and is constantly in the national news. Hundreds of them have been tried over the years.

The sad reality is that these family immigration issues will never really matter to the majority of the voting public, and the average Joe Canadian doesn't care if spouses can work or not, or if an application takes 1 or 2 years, since it doesn't affect them. So the government will not put the required resources/cost behind family immigration to actually speed up the process and make it more efficient.

Or if a news media outlet picks up on an individual's story, then CIC can act in an instant. Like this one from the other day: http://www.thestar.com/news/immigration/2014/05/09/immigration_relents_in_rejected_wifesponsorship_case.html

 

[civic]

To be perfectly honest, CIC will not even look at this petition unless it gets hundreds of thousands of signatures, and is constantly in the national news. Hundreds of them have been tried over the years.

The sad reality is that these family immigration issues will never really matter to the majority of the voting public, and the average Joe Canadian doesn't care if spouses can work or not, or if an application takes 1 or 2 years, since it doesn't affect them. So the government will not put the required resources/cost behind family immigration to actually speed up the process and make it more efficient.

Or if a news media outlet picks up on an individual's story, then CIC can act in an instant. Like this one from the other day: http://www.thestar.com/news/immigration/2014/05/09/immigration_relents_in_rejected_wifesponsorship_case.html

The number is only the number. The logics behind each petition will speak louder than the number. We only need to gather a small number of signatures just to tell CIC that there are real people out there suffering from the delays and I think our request for a sooner open work permit approval is very reasonable and definitely in line with other inland immigration streams.

 

[gsize]

I would only support a complete overhall of our Immigration system.

My heart cries out for people that cannot come to Canada to be with their loved ones because of Visa restrictions. etc.

At least -Inland- you are with your partner. As stated in above post........most people don't care about these issues because it doesn't affect them. ???

 

[Carlaganda23]

The number is only the number. The logics behind each petition will speak louder than the number. We only need to gather a small number of signatures just to tell CIC that there are real people out there suffering from the delays and I think our request for a sooner open work permit approval is very reasonable and definitely in line with other inland immigration streams.

I agree, atleast they will make the processing fast and efficient... There's no harm in trying

 

[Graihn]

Hi avadava,

I hear you, but my point of view is that we have to wait for a year to be able to work. I know we have different perspective with regards to this matter.

In my case, staying at home and cannot do anything makes me feel useless, depress and have low self-esteem. If there is any way we can make the process way faster, then that makes a difference.

I respect your opinion, no offence right there.

If you get to work as soon as you apply for an inland app, people can use this to work in Canada forEWWWAH. Pay 1000 dollars, work for 10 months, get denied, apply again an work for 10 months, get denied. It is not CIC. Fraudulent people eff it up for everyone else. Incur a 10 year ban to come to Canada if you commit fraud, which will reduce the number of fraudsters, which will reduce the number of applications, which will reduce the process of doing background checks, which will reduce your processing times.

badumdum pssssh

 

[Carlaganda23]

If you get to work as soon as you apply for an inland app, people can use this to work in Canada forEWWWAH. Pay 1000 dollars, work for 10 months, get denied, apply again an work for 10 months, get denied. It is not CIC. Fraudulent people eff it up for everyone else. Incur a 10 year ban to come to Canada if you commit fraud, which will reduce the number of fraudsters, which will reduce the number of applications, which will reduce the process of doing background checks, which will reduce your processing times.

badumdum pssssh

I know right? I can understand your point of view,both the applicant and sponsor should be interviewed if there are many red flags though....I'm just hoping the processing time will be faster than anticipated.

 

[lellen]

I know I'm a little late to the conversation but I felt the need to say a few things.

1. It's not a competition between outland and inland. Nobody is competing to see who has it *censored word*tier. The whole discussion on that seemed a bit ridiculous to me, why do people have problems with someone else trying to change things for the better? Just because (in their eyes alone) they have it worse? Trust me, it's not our fault that we came here to study or work, only temporarily in our minds, and ended up finding the loves of our lives and wanted to marry them and have a family. These things just happen. And I'm sorry about pregnant people away from their spouses (which breaks my heart just to think about), but being trapped in a black hole, in the in-between of legal status/no legal status/no job/what if I get denied/what if I have to wait longer/what will my future be in a month is also HELL. And yes, I get to be with my spouse but if my ONLY two choices are: spend two years away from my husband, pregnant or not, not being able to see him, but at the same time be able to work in my own country, OR stay here in a country WITH my husband but not being able to move, visit family, see friends (and the rest of my network support), know when I'll be free, well, this just doesn't seem very fair to me. I'm not comfortable with either.

2. I keep seeing people discuss about the "conscious choice" they made by applying inland. Well, most of the people applying, and I can say this for myself because I didn't find this forum until after applying, have NO IDEA about the hell they're about to get into. Me and my husband had two choices. We visited CIC's webpage. We looked at all the options, read the guides. We counted the processing times for both Inland and Outland (from my *censored word*ty third world country's VO), and realized how much less time it would take to do it inland. Also $500 cheaper. We certainly were not expecting processing times to get longer. and longer. and longer.
If you don't frequent this forum, you are in the dark about the OWP stuff. We were unaware of the seriousness of leaving while the PR is in process. In the guide, they RECOMMEND that you don't leave. Being in this forum has made me understand that I MUST NOT leave during this process at all. I wasn't really aware of this. Now I know it, and I feel trapped and scared and like suffocating a little bit. If I had an OWP I could get a Visa, so I can fly back home and see my family, even if it's just two weeks, and then come back to my husband and to my job and my life.

3. I understand that CIC is afraid of marriage fraud. Now, I'm pretty sure there are more people marrying Canadians for genuine reasons than people committing fraud, ESPECIALLY from inside Canada. We're already here, for crying out loud. Granting an OWP for a year while the application is being processed would be just and fair, even if some people disagree with this (which confuses the hell out of me). If the application were to be denied, their work permit would expire anyway. It's a little help CIC would be throwing in to their citizens or PR's who fell in love with a foreigner.


4. I've talked too much. I think I don't have anything else to say. And to the self righteous people who were snobbing us for wanting to change things, well... I really want to say something mean but I will refrain.


Let the lashing out being, I shall take it with panache.

 

[Graihn]

3. I understand that CIC is afraid of marriage fraud. Now, I'm pretty sure there are more people marrying Canadians for genuine reasons than people committing fraud, ESPECIALLY from inside Canada. We're already here, for crying out loud. Granting an OWP for a year while the application is being processed would be just and fair, even if some people disagree with this (which confuses the hell out of me). If the application were to be denied, their work permit would expire anyway. It's a little help CIC would be throwing in to their citizens or PR's who fell in love with a foreigner.

As I said, I am sure it works this way due to misuse of the system. They do not do it because they want to keep family's apart.