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tiger007

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Manish7 said:
Ok so i am currently doing my BMS frm mumbai university...my agg % of 1 and 2nd yr is nearly 55% but as i knw final yr which is university exam n which is more IMP..so i have gt 64% in my 5th semester and 6th semester exam will b conducted on april 16 so cant really say anything abt it yet i hope i get 65 smthing...and u knw my IELTS but the thing is am currently consulting EDWISE international which very much reputed so considering u might also knw abt it..and the consultant is like this is sufficient (my IELTS) and she is likely to get me in coll. lyk conestoga niagra cent. and TRU as well i havent spoken to her abt VIU and george brown has given me conditional offer sayin if i get 60% + in my finals they will get my add. done...so this is the whole scenario and 10th 72% and 12 SCIENCE 54%.

So am looking fr SEPT intake my main concern is to start a Business of my own am goin canada so tat i can have sm EXP n learn abt business running arnd the world and have a gud exposure of foreigh country so u knw i can learn smthing or get a idea smthing lyk tat sort of kind ...

thank u w8in fr ur reply..
Hi,

Your profile is quiet good. If you get 60%+ in final year, I strongly reccomend you to directly opt for VIU MBA ( NO work ex. or GMAT req., 14 months-- 3 years PGWP..best deal man!), and in my personal opinion it's way better then attending any PG level cert./diploma course at any of the Canadian colleges...even George brown. To get 3 years PGWP, you will have to study for 2 full years in a PG level course in a Canadian college( programmes mentioned on this post) or after studying 1 year PG cert/diploma programmes you will get only 1 year PGWP..
Also, by applying for a University (VIU), that too under SPP, your chances of visa will be comparatively higher.

Yes, I think.. Edwise and Canam are the only two good reputed consultants. So, if your consultant says... this IELTS is enough and you will get admisision (since you don't 've low scores).. don't worry about it.. Jut try your best to get 60%+ in final year and join VIU MBA by this Sept. intake. That's my opinion.

Really doesn't matter what your intentions are now..wheter to learn, or start business or get PR. Priorities may change, when you reach there! ;)

Best of Luck.
 

jinal parmar

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university of Victoria offers MASTERS OF GLOBAL BUSINESS (MGB) :)

http://www.uvic.ca/gustavson/gill/mgb/index.php

REGARDS
JINU
 

tiger007

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jinal parmar said:
university of Victoria offers MASTERS OF GLOBAL BUSINESS (MGB) :)

http://www.uvic.ca/gustavson/gill/mgb/index.php

REGARDS
JINU
Hi,

This is like just any other Master's degree at a Canadian univ., where you need to have completed 4 years Bachelor's degree with min B average or 70%, along with good resume and IELTS score of 6.5 i.e it's got high entry requirements.
 

jinal parmar

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tiger007 said:
Hi,

This is like just any other Master's degree at a Canadian univ., where you need to have completed 4 years Bachelor's degree with min B average or 70%, along with good resume and IELTS score of 6.5 i.e it's got high entry requirements.
YES

i was interested in this program. I sent them an e-mail as well. All colleges & universities are really very supportive, they always revert to our e-mails. But the fees for this program is high :( hence i dropped this plan
 

Manish7

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Hmmm thanks you very much fr ur advice really helpful...but the thing is is it gud to do MBA just after my Grad. cause u knw mostly people take MBA after getting sm EXP in wrk field...so basically people ova der will be more expe. well behaved havin loads of knwldge etc etc ....as i have just completed my grad. n till nw i am nt at all serious abt studies :D still doin timepass n being cool. so i dnt want to be ODD frm the crowd other wise ill feel awkward.
And wat abt the course reputaion and abt the area and UNIV reputation is it all gud ..?? and abt the JOB opprt after the completion of the course is gud..basically is it recognised?
 

tiger007

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Manish7 said:
Hmmm thanks you very much fr ur advice really helpful...but the thing is is it gud to do MBA just after my Grad. cause u knw mostly people take MBA after getting sm EXP in wrk field...so basically people ova der will be more expe. well behaved havin loads of knwldge etc etc ....as i have just completed my grad. n till nw i am nt at all serious abt studies :D still doin timepass n being cool. so i dnt want to be ODD frm the crowd other wise ill feel awkward.
And wat abt the course reputaion and abt the area and UNIV reputation is it all gud ..?? and abt the JOB opprt after the completion of the course is gud..basically is it recognised?
YEAH.. I get your point..and you are right form this point of view..Actual good MBA, requires real life 2-5 years work ex, good GMAT score and good overall profile. But I reccomended you to opt for VIU MBA..AMONG the options right now in-front of you. It's the best option..at this time for you.. in-terms of getting comparatively easier visa (as It's a Univ. under SPP) and plus you will get 3 years PGWP after just 14 months of study (out of that 4 months internship) and the ultimate aim to get PR (so, I strongly reccomend you to go for VIU MBA, if gettign 3 years PGWP, faster PR and staying in Canada is your motive..like most of us ;)). But, the reality remains..be it this MBA or any other..ultimate success depends on you, your skills and capability. So, if genuine study and career building is what you are looking for..then you can try getting 2-3 years solid work experience in India, build your profile and then appear for GMAT/IELTS/CAT..score high.. clear interview/admission rounds and apply for a higher grade MBA in India, Canada or anywhere... OR do a 2 years PG certificate/diploma(for getting 3 years PGWP.. and since you can get PGWP only once in your lifetime, in mean time get PR) in Canada, get 3 years solid work ex.. and then apply for high grade MBA in canada, since you are young, just about to graduate and hence you got lots of time at your disposal. Think carefully, as to what and how you want to progress...

Best of luck.
 

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tiger007 said:
YEAH.. I get your point..and you are right form this point of view..Actual good MBA, requires real life 2-5 years work ex, good GMAT score and good overall profile. But I reccomended you to opt for VIU MBA..AMONG the options right now in-front of you. It's the best option..at this time for you.. in-terms of getting comparatively easier visa (as It's a Univ. under SPP) and plus you will get 3 years PGWP after just 14 months of study (out of that 4 months internship) and the ultimate aim to get PR (so, I strongly reccomend you to go for VIU MBA, if gettign 3 years PGWP, faster PR and staying in Canada is your motive..like most of us ;)). But, the reality remains..be it this MBA or any other..ultimate success depends on you, your skills and capability. So, if genuine study and career building is what you are looking for..then you can try getting 2-3 years solid work experience in India, build your profile and then appear for GMAT/IELTS/CAT..score high.. clear interview/admission rounds and apply for a higher grade MBA in India, Canada or anywhere... OR do a 2 years PG certificate/diploma(for getting 3 years PGWP.. and since you can get PGWP only once in your lifetime, in mean time get PR) in Canada, get 3 years solid work ex.. and then apply for high grade MBA in canada, since you are young, just about to graduate and hence you got lots of time at your disposal. Think carefully, as to what and how you want to progress...

Best of luck.
Hi,

1. MBA from VIU = One of the best way to waste your time & money.
 

tiger007

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enfield said:
Hi,

1. MBA from VIU = One of the best way to waste your time & money.
LOL :)

But, isn't it better than studying for 2 years in a college PG programme, just to get 3 years PGWP, and a greater chance to get that coveted PR.. why not study here at VIU MBA, for just 14 months... if that's my main motive? Admitted.. it's not a good MBA and it's more expensive... Candidly speaking...given the chance..I would join VIU MBA, instead of planning to study 1 year (8-12months) PG cert/diploma courses at any of these Ontario colleges... but unfortunately..I ain't got first class...

And yeah..we all know..enfield.. seriously..Not everyone can or actually study for the sake of genuine higher studies and aspire to build their career and come to Canada ONLY for that !! ...and for example get into a reputed MBA... If that would have been the case... places like VIU would shut down their MBA programme... ;) Many of us are planning to enter Canada via student route... just to try our best for that PR... :D And, all these lower rung colleges and Universities across Canada know that very very well...

Now you get my point right...? even though it may be a waste as an MBA... ;)
 

enfield

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LOL :)


But, isn't it better than studying for 2 years in a college PG programme, just to get 3 years PGWP.

Many of us are planning to enter Canada via student route... just to try our best for that PR... :D
Hi,

1. Is there any difference between a MBA from VIU/FDU/Canada West (with no gmat + no work experience + tuition tag of CAD 33,000+) AND a 2 year PG Diploma in Business from Humber/Seneca etc (with Tuition tag of CAD 24,000)? I do not think if there is any difference.
2. Canada is not about a 3 year PGWP = PR (believe me this formula looks good when you are not in Canada and, spending your good time in daydreaming about Canada). I am a student of MBA in British Columbia and I know what's happening here. Hope is a good thing but living with a false hope will destroy you. To 'survive' in Canada, you need a permanent job, and it shall not be easy without a required set of skills, best possible education and the real time Canadian work experience. Things might looks good when you read PNP of Saskatchewan/Manitoba/others but in reality things are different. I do not intend to discourage anyone but it's better if we do not look for shortcuts to enter Canada, instead focus more on quality admission + quality schools. Always try for the best possible option. And, for MBA in VIU, I would like to tell you that even best MBA grads from top ranking business schools like Sauders-UBC (in BC) are struggling to find jobs so you can imagine situation in VIU (in BC). Really, not a good option.
 

tiger007

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enfield said:
Hi,

1. Is there any difference between a MBA from VIU/FDU/Canada West (with no gmat + no work experience + tuition tag of CAD 33,000+) AND a 2 year PG Diploma in Business from Humber/Seneca etc (with Tuition tag of CAD 24,000)? I do not think if there is any difference.
2. Canada is not about a 3 year PGWP = PR (believe me this formula looks good when you are not in Canada and, spending your good time in daydreaming about Canada). I am a student of MBA in British Columbia and I know what's happening here. Hope is a good thing but living with a false hope will destroy you. To 'survive' in Canada, you need a permanent job, and it shall not be easy without a required set of skills, best possible education and the real time Canadian work experience. Things might looks good when you read PNP of Saskatchewan/Manitoba/others but in reality things are different. I do not intend to discourage anyone but it's better if we do not look for shortcuts to enter Canada, instead focus more on quality admission + quality schools. Always try for the best possible option. And, for MBA in VIU, I would like to tell you that even best MBA grads from top ranking business schools like Sauders-UBC (in BC) are struggling to find jobs so you can imagine situation in VIU (in BC). Really, not a good option.
Hi,

1. Agreed. There is not much difference.. but VIU MBA definitely saves few months. And at same time gives 3 years PGWP. why not instead opt for VIU then (again, if the intention is just getting 3 years PGWP in shorter time)?

2. What you are talking about... is what a genuine student thinks of...with the intention of getting the best education and the best opportunities can offer.. Be it Canada or any place on earth ! No one is denying the value or importance for striving for the best or the harsh economic reality, that Canada and rest of the world is going through. I respect, what you as a student are trying to achieve... Getting quality education + Canadian experience... and bagging a respectful permanent job... And that should be what we all must look into.

But again... Neither can you deny... that NOT everyone is focusing on quality admission + quality schools..(of the standard you are talking about). You seriously cannot believe or expect that ALL students.. actually focus on quality education and not PR? I repeat..if that were to be the case... majority of students from South Asia, other developing countries wouldn't struggle and give their best just to get the study visa even with an admission letter in one of those not so quality centered colleges or universities like VIU and these colleges/VIU would shut down way long back, if there was no actual demand for them... but it ain't happening ..is it? Infact, the demand for these colleges are on the rise...(Majority of us are not talented enough..and don't get an admission to a reputed MBA school like you 've got, you 've these strong beliefs and faith for quality stuff... but believe me.. many of us.. our aspirations are pretty simple.. ;) ) Even, those going for THAT quality education...many ultimately go because of the underlying intention of getting a PR! And the fact remains.. Many focus on PGWP+PR, rather than on quality education. And yes... it's not a daydream.. to try to immigrate via methods such as Sask. PNP student stream... and come'on, spending so much money...taking a loan.. fighting best to get a study visa... Leaving family, friends and one's home behind...studying for 1 or 2 years...then moving to Sask., doing some sought of any job for 6 months..getting a permanent full time job offer there... and then applying for PNP/PR.....who says it's a shortcut??? It's a struggle in it's own right... and even if it's a shortcut...I don't see any wrong in aiming for that route.. so as to ultimately strive for a PR...I believe..it's one of the best option to migrate... probably the last such pathway left... for average/ below average students to migrate to a developed country...if that were to be false/ a daydream... the provincial govt. would never place such rules in first place... and I know personally people.. (and there are 100's..probably many more by now..) who after passing out from these low level colleges of Ontario etc., have moved to Sask., doing some kind of job..and have received PNP nomination/PR... and they are doing well! In-fact, the Sask. PNP 've become such a hit.. many Indian students who earlier studied in UK, Australia, NZ.. never got the PR there... are rushing to get a Canadian student visa... Yes.. PR..PR..PR.. that matters a lot/ infact matters most for many of us...... and this student path is a good,safe and legal way to get one...not to mention what some people do to get to the foreign shores.... So, you see.. it's all about a different perspective.....
 

jinal parmar

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tiger007 said:
Hi,

1. Agreed. There is not much difference.. but VIU MBA definitely saves few months. And at same time gives 3 years PGWP. why not instead opt for VIU then (again, if the intention is just getting 3 years PGWP in shorter time)?

2. What you are talking about... is what a genuine student thinks of...with the intention of getting the best education and the best opportunities can offer.. Be it Canada or any place on earth ! No one is denying the value or importance for striving for the best or the harsh economic reality, that Canada and rest of the world is going through. I respect, what you as a student are trying to achieve... Getting quality education + Canadian experience... and bagging a respectful permanent job... And that should be what we all must look into.

But again... Neither can you deny... that NOT everyone is focusing on quality admission + quality schools..(of the standard you are talking about). You seriously cannot believe or expect that ALL students.. actually focus on quality education and not PR? I repeat..if that were to be the case... majority of students from South Asia, other developing countries wouldn't struggle and give their best just to get the study visa even with an admission letter in one of those not so quality centered colleges or universities like VIU and these colleges/VIU would shut down way long back, if there was no actual demand for them... but it ain't happening ..is it? Infact, the demand for these colleges are on the rise...(Majority of us are not talented enough..and don't get an admission to a reputed MBA school like you 've got, you 've these strong beliefs and faith for quality stuff... but believe me.. many of us.. our aspirations are pretty simple.. ;) ) Even, those going for THAT quality education...many ultimately go because of the underlying intention of getting a PR! And the fact remains.. Many focus on PGWP+PR, rather than on quality education. And yes... it's not a daydream.. to try to immigrate via methods such as Sask. PNP student stream... and come'on, spending so much money...taking a loan.. fighting best to get a study visa... Leaving family, friends and one's home behind...studying for 1 or 2 years...then moving to Sask., doing some sought of any job for 6 months..getting a permanent full time job offer there... and then applying for PNP/PR.....who says it's a shortcut??? It's a struggle in it's own right... and even if it's a shortcut...I don't see any wrong in aiming for that route.. so as to ultimately strive for a PR...I believe..it's one of the best option to migrate... probably the last such pathway left... for average/ below average students to migrate to a developed country...if that were to be false/ a daydream... the provincial govt. would never place such rules in first place... and I know personally people.. (and there are 100's..probably many more by now..) who after passing out from these low level colleges of Ontario etc., have moved to Sask., doing some kind of job..and have received PNP nomination/PR... and they are doing well! In-fact, the Sask. PNP 've become such a hit.. many Indian students who earlier studied in UK, Australia, NZ.. never got the PR there... are rushing to get a Canadian student visa... Yes.. PR..PR..PR.. that matters a lot/ infact matters most for many of us...... and this student path is a good,safe and legal way to get one...not to mention what some people do to get to the foreign shores.... So, you see.. it's all about a different perspective.....
its true. even this is my goal & trying my level best to enter canada.
 

Manish7

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Tiger ur right sayin that many students main aim is to get PR ...but teme one thing...
1. Payin 31k++$ fees n doin MBA in VIU n gaining 3 yrs WP
2. Payin around 15k $ fr 1 yr PGDM course wid Co-op in any coll. n den get PNP n apply fr PR ??
3. Doing 2 yrs PGDM or 1YR 2 Prgms will also gain u 3yrs WP..

So wats acutually better n if u apply fr PR wrk der fr 3 yrs after tat also u can apply fr MBA tat to in a gud University as saiod by Enfield.
And Tiger wat r ur actual plans where r u trying to go n where have u applied??
 

tiger007

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Manish7 said:
Tiger ur right sayin that many students main aim is to get PR ...but teme one thing...
1. Payin 31k++$ fees n doin MBA in VIU n gaining 3 yrs WP
2. Payin around 15k $ fr 1 yr PGDM course wid Co-op in any coll. n den get PNP n apply fr PR ??
3. Doing 2 yrs PGDM or 1YR 2 Prgms will also gain u 3yrs WP..

So wats acutually better n if u apply fr PR wrk der fr 3 yrs after tat also u can apply fr MBA tat to in a gud University as saiod by Enfield.
And Tiger wat r ur actual plans where r u trying to go n where have u applied??
Hi,

1. 3 years PGWP (by ONLY studying 14 months, that too out of that 4 months internship)
2. 8-12 MONTHS PGWP (mostly 12, if you do co-op)
3. 2 years PG cert/diploma will give 3 years PGWP, and Two 1 year courses will give ONLY 2 years PGWP.

Now, strictly talking in terms of getting a PR: by working ANY job for 6 months, and then getting ANY full time job offer in Sask. province..which is the easiest way to get PR, You follow ANY of the 3 options, doesn't matter. But obviously.. studying 2 separate 1 year courses and getting only 2 years PGWP will be foolishness, when by studying a combined 2 years PG programme, you can get 3 years PGWP! Anyways, people (and even I) prefer for getting a 3 years PGWP, because that will give us a hell lot of time at our disposal, and you can in a relaxed way, find a job..do it..and then apply for PNP, whereas in getting 1 year PGWP, you will have to rush everything.. rush to Sask. province.. complete your 960 hours/ 6 months as soon as you can, find a full time permanent job offer and then apply for PNP. Well, 1 year is ALSO more than enough time to get PNP nomination, but a 3 years PGWP at your hand, you will not have to rush..and you can look for actual skilled jobs in your field of study. That's the ONLY difference.
Infact, 1 year PGWP is more than enough, if you can find a full time permanent job, in your area of study in Nova Scotia province, and work there for just 3 months (instead of 6 in most of other provinces), you can then apply for PNP nomination which takes upto 2 months. So, in Nova Scotia you can get your PNP nomination in as little as 4-5 months, instead of usual 9-11 months in other provinces. To know more about Nova Scotia PNP check my previous reply on this post:
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/i-dont-understand-the-immigration-process-for-international-graduates-t99800.0.html;msg1358952#msg1358952

In my personal opinion, No matter what you plan to do,it's always best to try and secure your PR within the allotted PGWP period(which you can use only once in a lifetime)... and then look for whatever you want to pursue/study/other work of your choice etc. Once you get the PR.. life will be much better... ;) You can even pursue higher studies at cheaper(for locals) tuition fees.
Saying this, if you are talented, have very good profile..and are genuinely interested in building your career, then you can start building up your profile, apply for a good MBA/ choice of your course in a reputed University in Canada, get a skilled job (which is tough)..which will anyways..get you a PR automatically under CEC or PNPs, like Enfield prefers. So, it's really your choice.

As for me, I'm not at all academically inclined, got 2nd class/ poor marks..and cannot afford to spend time or money on a 2 years PG cert. course. So, I'll be opting for a 1 year PG cert/diploma in any of these colleges and then get a 1 year PGWP, and move to Sask. province (provided.. if I get the visa.. LOL)! :)