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iamsj87

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Hi, all. I really have an urgent question about my cec application.
According to this, “full time work” means at least 30 hours of work over a period of one week, “work” means an activity for which wages are paid or commission is earned. During my 12 months' work before submitting my application, there are very few weeks that total work hours < 30 hours and two weeks out for vacation. I am wondering will these weeks be counted out of my applications?
Because I have already submitted my application, but I don't feel very confident about this one. Can I submit another application 2 to 3 months later? Will my second application affect my first one? Thx for the help!
 

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iamsj87 said:
Hi, all. I really have an urgent question about my cec application.
According to this, “full time work” means at least 30 hours of work over a period of one week, “work” means an activity for which wages are paid or commission is earned. During my 12 months' work before submitting my application, there are very few weeks that total work hours < 30 hours and two weeks out for vacation. I am wondering will these weeks be counted out of my applications?
Because I have already submitted my application, but I don't feel very confident about this one. Can I submit another application 2 to 3 months later? Will my second application affect my first one? Thx for the help!
Most (salaried) skilled workers will get at least 2 weeks paid vacation as well as sick/personal days part of their compensation - if that's what you're talking about, then don't worry about it.

It's a little tricker for those who are paid hourly wages or work variable hours. But if you worked fewer than 30 hours per week, then that would be considered part time and you'd have to figure out whether you worked a sufficient number of part-time hours to compensate. (For example, if you worked 2 15-hour weeks, that would be the equivalent of 1 full-time week.)
 

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Hi, jes, I think I did not clarify my questions clearly. It was a full-time contract work (35hours/week), for very few weeks I took one day off from work (e.g. 28 hours/week), and I did not got paid on that specific day. Will this week be counted out of my last 12 work months? For 2 weeks' vocation, I also did not got paid. Thx!
 

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iamsj87 said:
Hi, jes, I think I did not clarify my questions clearly. It was a full-time contract work (35hours/week), for very few weeks I took one day off from work (e.g. 28 hours/week), and I did not got paid on that specific day. Will this week be counted out of my last 12 work months? For 2 weeks' vocation, I also did not got paid. Thx!
Well, this raises a few questions. All I can say is I hope you gave yourself a little leeway and applied a few weeks after your one year anniversary, because (technically) you can't count those 2 weeks of unpaid leave, and technically, you would have to work a few extra days to make up the difference between part-time and full-time weeks. Whether or not the VO "catches" this is another matter, depends on the evidence you provided.

Since your vacation was unpaid, I have to ask - by "contract work," do you mean you were an independent contractor (self-employed)? It sounds like that - if that's the case, you might not qualify, unfortunately.
 

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Thanks for your reply. I am not self-employed but in a regular office environment (I worked full-time after my co-op). Sry I just checked my past pay-checks, the vacation pay was 4% bi-weekly. My bad. In this case, can my absence from 2 weeks' vocation still be counted(also statutory holiday included in those two weeks)? Thx!
 

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iamsj87 said:
Thanks for your reply. I am not self-employed but in a regular office environment (I worked full-time after my co-op). Sry I just checked my past pay-checks, the vacation pay was 4% bi-weekly. My bad. In this case, can my absence from 2 weeks' vocation still be counted(also statutory holiday included in those two weeks)? Thx!
In my opinion, your unpaid vacation would not be considered as part of your hours requirement. It looks like they pay out your vacation in lieu of the actual days, so you should apply after have attained the required amount of paid hours of experience.

Additionally, it look like you will have a mix of full time and part time weeks. You may need to calculate your full time weeks (>=30 hours in the week) and your part time weeks (<30 hours), but you can't count hours in excess of 30 hours in any one week.
 

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Thx for the reply. cant even sleep.. Accurately, for 35 hours/week, it will be counted as 1 week as same as 30 hours/week. For 28 hours/week, it will be counted as 0.933 week (28/30), am I right?
Also, if I want to submit another application, do I have to withdraw my first application? Thx!
 

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iamsj87 said:
Thanks for your reply. I am not self-employed but in a regular office environment (I worked full-time after my co-op). Sry I just checked my past pay-checks, the vacation pay was 4% bi-weekly. My bad. In this case, can my absence from 2 weeks' vocation still be counted(also statutory holiday included in those two weeks)? Thx!

Hi iamsj87

Your 4% vacation pay IS counted when your time is being considered but you have to ensure that in the last 1 year you did not take more than 10 days of vacation (2 weeks vacation pay = approx. 10 days).

Please check your pay stubs again for I believe you should have been paid for the statutory holidays. if you aren't then they have to be counted within the 2 weeks vacation period that you have.

a suggestion - why don't you draw up a spreadsheet of your weekly hours worked (and got paid for) for the past one year. add that up.

then add the 2 weeks ( 30 hrs * 2 = 60 hrs) to it. See what you get. if it adds up to the required time (year-wise and hours-wise), then you are good to go.
 

iamsj87

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Hi, Hopefulagain:

Thx for your reply. I checked my pay check again. I do get paid for the statutory holidays, but I also get paid for vacation. So my 2 weeks' vocation should be counted, right?
I think for both year-wise and hours-wise, I am OK. I only have concern about my week-wise. It seems that 52 weeks is the minimum requirement. But I am not sure how many weeks can those weeks with 28 hours' work be counted for? (e.g. 15 weeks with 28 hours' work = 14 weeks with 30 hours' work?) Here is the explanation which I cant understand from CEC operation manual:

Work experience can be calculated by adding up the number of weeks of full time (or equivalent) paid work (i.e. 30 hours per week in one job, or a total of at least 30 hours per week in more than one job) in one or more skilled occupations at Skill Type 0 (Managerial
occupations), Skill Level A (Professional occupations) or B (Technical occupations and skilled trades) of the NOC.
Work experience must be acquired over a period of at least one year; work in excess of 30 hours per week over a shorter period cannot compensate for any shorter overall period of experience.
 

iamsj87

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Hi, mumbai:

that spreadsheet is extremely useful, and it is so easy to use.. thx! I am just wondering do you have any evidence for this formulation? (e.g. 15 weeks with 28 hours' work = 14 weeks with 30 hours' work?)
 

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iamsj87 said:
Hi, mumbai:

that spreadsheet is extremely useful, and it is so easy to use.. thx! I am just wondering do you have any evidence for this formulation? (e.g. 15 weeks with 28 hours' work = 14 weeks with 30 hours' work?)
yes, 15 weeks with 28 hours' work = 14 weeks with 30 hours' work