CEC rejected - any advice?

[grishan1]

Read this about T4 and T4A business for postdocs:

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/can-postdoc-here-apply-for-ces-t155637.0.html;msg2684414#msg2684414

 

[rtaylor]

Thank you for your advice
Regarding this matter of T4, I think a letter from University or Professor stating that the person used University facility during his/her research work in University and he/she is not self employed is sufficient to solve the issue of T4. am I correct?

 

[jes_ON]

Thanks for the comments,
Another thing, I would like to mention here that if I am applying as Chemist, do I need to provide T4? For your information we postdocs are given T4A (bursary) not T4.
What do you think guys ? they can ask me to provide T4 instead of T4A, if it is like that then they will get a point to reject my application.

It may well depend on your university. See these definitions for UBC

http://www.hr.ubc.ca/faculty-relations/recruitment/titles-ranks-descriptions/postdoctoral-fellows/

 

[sachinleo80]

I am also planning to apply under NOC 4011 - University lecturer. I have gathered all the required documents along with proof of funds, English test and ECA reports. However the ECA report I received mentions my MSc degree is equivalent in Canada is 4 years BSc degree!!

I have completed my BSc (3 Years), B.Ed (1 Year) and MSc (2 Years) with distinction grades in all the exams from Indian Unviversity. I also have 6 years experience in the same field.

My query is - Am I still eligible to apply under FSW even my ECA report shows my MSc degree is equivalent as Canadian BSc degree?? Please let me know your responses on urgent basis as I have very little time remaining to send my documents. Your help is much appreciated.

 

[yixiaop26]

If you are on a closed work permit and it says your NOC 4011, then i think your only option is 4011.

If you use NOC 4011,try to include duties in your reference letter, such as conducting research, writing research paper, mentoring graduate and undergraduate students' research projects, etc. Even if you didn't do any teaching in class, you should include some student mentoring duties besides the research duties, such as lecturing instrumental operation procedure to new students, mentoring research projects, etc.

However, in case of open work permit (post grad work permit) you can chose anyone which matches most of your duties.

close work permit have no NOC code too . there is only a job title which is even different with the one with which you apply for your work permit. or not same with your offer letter too.

the job title in work permit is totally a mess based on my experience of mine and reviewing others'.

even on same work permit, they will mention 2 job titles, one is under occupation, another is in remarks part (or none )

 

[yixiaop26]

I am also a postdoc, but occupation showing on work permit (issued this year) is post-secondary teaching and research assistant, NOC 4012. I think some of the CIC officers still use NOC 2006 rather than NOC 2011 to issue work permit.

As postdoc doesn't need to get LMO, the NOC code is assigned randomly, either 4011 (according to NOC 2011)/4012 (according to NOC 2006) or 2***(your specialty). You can apply under either of the category but have to make sure your job duties match most of those list on hrsdc website.

agree , w/o LMO is a key .

let me clear this :

apply work permit

job letter: occupation A , apply occupation B , you may get work permit occupation C ( this is true happened on me , so no laughing )


you have no LMO ,

now when you apply PR , we need reference letter : and offer letter to service as support doc.

so both reference letter and offer letter coming from your company ,

here in my opinion, I think we should use occupation A in reference letter.

but the duties, please keep same with offer letter or other doc you once submit to VO too when you apply work permit.

for the NOC, check the duties to find NOC . forget about all the titles you have.

only in this way, if some Picky VO question you , we can give answer.

because, from the begin to end, we always give the exactly same information, it is them randomly write title in work permit or LMO whatever

they can't give you A NOC when you apply LMO and work permit, next time same doc, give you B NOC conclusion.

it will make people in crazy status.


this is also can explain, why recently reject letter just based on job duties to check your NOC code. not based on titles.

but , even you make job duties same with NOC, and you change titles to something which doesn't appear both in your offer letter or work permit , it would be a trouble.

because no one know where is it from.