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CEC Refused - NOV APPLICANT

gladaki

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yes 2 year under old rule
 

nanno88

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If you are applying for one year rxperience n not 2 years. They count whatever between the qualifining period which is two years?
 

Arhaan

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nickutis said:
his employment documents only proved that he worked for 1.5 years, and since he applied in November of 2012, at that time CEC rules said he had to have at least 2 years of work experience

Don't let your hands down Capricorn.. Resubmit and this time you will succeed.
Hey Nuckutis,

I don't get it when you mentioned that since he applied in November of 2012 he had to have at least 2 years of exp but i did applied on 9th of June,2012 with one exp and my and my file was approved...i might be wrong in understanding the reasoning but you will be highly appreciated if you please clarify a bit...Thank you
 

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Arhaan said:
Hey Nuckutis,

I don't get it when you mentioned that since he applied in November of 2012 he had to have at least 2 years of exp but i did applied on 9th of June,2012 with one exp and my and my file was approved...i might be wrong in understanding the reasoning but you will be highly appreciated if you please clarify a bit...Thank you
Arhaan, I guess (only a guess) that in CEC pre-2013, there were two streams:

Post Graduate Stream : 2 yrs of study + 1 yr experience

Temp. Foreign Worker : 2 yrs of work experience in Canada in skill 0,A or B

Nuckutis might be referring to TFW, while you are referring to PGS....is that the case?
 

Arhaan

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InfoSeeker12 said:
Arhaan, I guess (only a guess) that in CEC pre-2013, there were two streams:

Post Graduate Stream : 2 yrs of study + 1 yr experience

Temp. Foreign Worker : 2 yrs of work experience in Canada in skill 0,A or B

Nuckutis might be referring to TFW, while you are referring to PGS....is that the case?
Definitely this is the case...highly appreciated for you quick response...
 

Capricorn2012

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My work permit expired nov 2011... I m eligible to reapply under the new rule for 1 year Exp in past 3 year.. But is that a good idea to reapply keeping in mind VO raised question on my wages $22 and 24 month exp
 

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I think certain things are still unclear:
If you started working a skilled job with full-time hours from May 24, 2009, you were eligible for CEC some time after May 24, 2011 and well before your permit expired in Nov 2011. Why did you wait until Nov 2012 to apply for CEC?

Did you work in 2012 at all? Why did you keep providing employment letters with "new" sign off dates but same information?

Anyway, see this: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/publications/cec.asp#requirements
"Requirements for applicants

Work experience

To apply for permanent resident status through the CEC, you need at least one year of full-time experience (or the equivalent in part-time work) as a skilled worker in Canada. Full-time work means at least 30 hours per week. The one-year work experience must have been obtained within the three years preceding the date your CEC application is received."

If you have at least one year full-time(at least 30 hrs a week) skilled work experience anytime from July 20, 2010 to today, you are eligible to apply for CEC. You definitely want to check and confirm that you can apply. This time go to an experienced immigration lawyer. The longer you wait, the higher the chances that your past work experience could fall outside the 3 year period preceding the date your CEC application is received.

Assuming you worked until your work permit expired in Nov 2011, you definitely want to apply before Nov 2013.

Capricorn2012 said:
My work permit expired nov 2011... I m eligible to reapply under the new rule for 1 year Exp in past 3 year.. But is that a good idea to reapply keeping in mind VO raised question on my wages $22 and 24 month exp
 

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Capricorn2012 said:
My work permit expired nov 2011... I m eligible to reapply under the new rule for 1 year Exp in past 3 year.. But is that a good idea to reapply keeping in mind VO raised question on my wages $22 and 24 month exp
It all depend on ur field of work. If ur salary become too low than the average minimal wage, it will call for concern
 

jsm0085

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Capricorn2012 said:
My work permit expired nov 2011... I m eligible to reapply under the new rule for 1 year Exp in past 3 year.. But is that a good idea to reapply keeping in mind VO raised question on my wages $22 and 24 month exp
I think what the vo is saying is it was stated that you earned $22 per hour. They have looked at your total earnings on t4 / noa for that period and if they devide your gross income by 22 it isn't working out @ the correct number of hours.
 

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Capricorn2012 said:
My work permit expired nov 2011... I m eligible to reapply under the new rule for 1 year Exp in past 3 year.. But is that a good idea to reapply keeping in mind VO raised question on my wages $22 and 24 month exp
Capricorn2012 the issue is your 'Wage rate' not the time your compiled, the VO mentioned that he/she isn't happy with that. You haven't earned $22 an hour or close to it.

I would make it your priority to find out how to get your marriage registered, look on the bright side Spousal sponsorship PR goes through in 5 to 6 months, its the quickest stream.

Might not to be too straight forward to work this out but I think its your best bet !

Suvan
 

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I agree with jsm0085.

$22 per hour is not a problem. Nowhere in the CEC program it states that the employment must meet the LMO minimum.However, your employment letter states your hourly salary was $22 and if your total income according to T4/NOAs from November, 2009 to November, 2011 is less than $85,800 (3900*22) then you do not qualify. I think the visa officer divided your total income from November, 2009 to November, 2011 by 22 and found that it was less than 3900.
 

Capricorn2012

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I think that is the case.. My total earnings for 2010 and 2011 comes to $ 76500 based on 37.5 hours of work
 

jsm0085

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Capricorn2012 said:
I think that is the case.. My total earnings for 2010 and 2011 comes to $ 76500 based on 37.5 hours of work
Sadly that means you were paid for 3642.8 hours which doesn't meet the 3900 hour requirment.
 

Capricorn2012

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Yea that's right jsm
Do you think reapplying under new rule is good idea
 

jsm0085

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Capricorn2012 said:
Yea that's right jsm
Do you think reapplying under new rule is good idea
Totally. The letter doesn't indicate any other problems other than lack of sufficient hours.

If suggest if you are still employment by the same company get them to revise the letter with most recent dates, otherwise your current letter should be fine.

They will be looking for skilled experience for the three years proceeding to your application date, 30 hours is now deemed to be full time and you only need 1 year instead of 2. As long as you meet these requirments, which i think you will, you should be fine.

Good luck and don't let this get you down!