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CEC Clarification

Cavin

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Oct 28, 2012
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Hello All,

I am about to fill out the forms for PR application. I have the following with me.
1) I've completed 8 months Post Graduate Ceriticate and obtained Ontario Graduate Certificate in 2011.
2) Following my graduation, I applied for PGWP and received 1 year work permit expiring in Aug 2012.
3) Got the job 3 months after work permit.
4) My employer applied for LMO and I have got positive LMO from HRSDC.
5) Applied for my work permit extension and received the extension for 2 yrs.

Today I'm 13 months old in job with 8 months College course. Will I be eligible under CEC for PR application.

Its confusing me only in terms of Eduction. Please advise.
 

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You are not eligible under the graduate stream because your program was only 8 months in duration(needs to be 16 months). Under the current rules, you have to work for 2 years in order to qualify under the foreign worker stream. In January 2013, the rules will change to allow foreign workers apply after 1 year of skilled work experience, so you would be eligible to apply then.
 

Cavin

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Hello SenoritaBella,

Thanks for response, But cic webiste says "a foreign graduate from a Canadian post-secondary institution with at least one year of full-time (or equivalent) skilled work experience in Canada "

cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/cec/apply-who.asp - Link from CIC

Will my 8 months Post Graduate Certificate not come under 'foreign graduate'?
And I have been working for 13 months now.

What about FSWC? I think I am also eligible under that program since I have a permanent full time job with my current employer, positive LMO

Please advise.
 

ujbaby

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Cavin said:
Hello SenoritaBella,

Thanks for response, But cic webiste says "a foreign graduate from a Canadian post-secondary institution with at least one year of full-time (or equivalent) skilled work experience in Canada "

cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/cec/apply-who.asp - Link from CIC

Will my 8 months Post Graduate Certificate not come under 'foreign graduate'?
And I have been working for 13 months now.

What about FSWC? I think I am also eligible under that program since I have a permanent full time job with my current employer, positive LMO

Please advise.
wait untill the new rule takes effect otherwise ur not eligible under the graduate stream. foreign graduates requires 16months(2yrs) studies with 4 consecutive semesters. There is temporal hold on federal skilled worker, but when everything is settled, u might be eligible
 

Cavin

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Hello UJbaby,

Please explain me as to why I am not eligible under current guidelines? I am still not clear on it.

Under current guidelines, I am a foreign graduate (8 months duration) and working as skilled worker for 1 yr.

Also, there is no link in CEC explaining the combination of Education and Work Exp.
 

ujbaby

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Cavin said:
Hello UJbaby,

Please explain me as to why I am not eligible under current guidelines? I am still not clear on it.

Under current guidelines, I am a foreign graduate (8 months duration) and working as skilled worker for 1 yr.

Also, there is no link in CEC explaining the combination of Education and Work Exp.
pls visit this link http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/cec/graduates.asp
 

Cavin

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Thanks, but that link explain either this or that case. Either you apply on basis of work experience or on basis of education.

But what about the combination of both? Education + Work

As per that link Will I have to be a Graduate with 4 semster education(16 months) + 1 yr of experience?

What is the total effective years which makes a person eligible for PR - 3 yrs or 2 yrs under Graduate Category?
 

ujbaby

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Cavin said:
Thanks, but that link explain either this or that case. Either you apply on basis of work experience or on basis of education.

But what about the combination of both? Education + Work

As per that link Will I have to be a Graduate with 4 semster education(16 months) + 1 yr of experience?

What is the total effective years which makes a person eligible for PR - 3 yrs or 2 yrs under Graduate Category?
u must combine both to qualify if u studied in canada.
2 yrs of studies (4 semesters) + 1 yr of work experience within canada or equivalent = canadian experience class
 

Cavin

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Thats better :)

CiC should make an update on that link stating explicitly that one needs to combine both in order to apply under graduate. ;D
 

ujbaby

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Med's Done....
Aug-22-2013, dependents 28-08-13
Interview........
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05/09/2013
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Cavin said:
Thats better :)

CiC should make an update on that link stating explicitly that one needs to combine both in order to apply under graduate. ;D
yea, i know.. glad u understand. all the best to we all. have a great day :) :)
 

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http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5609ETOC.asp

Experience: Work experience as a Graduate

You must have obtained the equivalent of 12 months of full-time or full-time equivalent (37.5 hours a week) Canadian skilled work experience at NOC Skill Type 0, or Skill Levels A or B. This work experience must have been acquired in Canada (within the 24 months preceding the date the application is made*).

You do not have to be in employed at the time of the application.

Note: The experience must be acquired after you have completed the required study and obtained a Canadian credential (work performed under the Off-Campus Work Permit Program or co-op work terms do not count).

Experience: Education requirements for Graduates

You must have studied in a program of study or training with a full-time duration of at least 16 months (i.e. two academic years of at least 8 months excluding scheduled breaks, such as summer holidays, in the calculation). The definition of full-time studies is left to individual post-secondary institutions. Full-time studies could also include any period of training in the workplace that forms part of the course of study.

You must have completed this program by studying full-time in Canada for at least 16 months and obtained:
•A diploma, degree, trade or apprenticeship credential from a public, provincially recognized Canadian university, community college, CEGEP, or trade/technical school, or
•A diploma or trade or apprenticeship credential from a private Quebec post-secondary institution that operates under the same rules and regulations as public institutions, and receives at least 50 percent of its financing for its overall operations from government grants, subsidies or other assistance — at this time only private CEGEPs qualify, or
•A degree from a Canadian private provincially recognized post-secondary institution.

Note: You must have studied in a Canadian institution located in Canada. Distance learning, including online programs, does not qualify.

Exception

If the duration of your program of study in Canada is less than 16 months but one academic year (eight months of study or more), you are only eligible for CEC if your credential is for a graduate program (e.g. Masters) and you have also attained a previous qualifying post-secondary educational credential (length of study of 8 months or more) in Canada within the two years preceding the completion of your graduate program.
 

giannetti22

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what makes you guys so sure that the requirement will change to 1 year in 2013.. its not approved.