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CBC on citizenship backlog

Dejaavu

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I wonder why they made it so complicated now in Canada. It didn't use to be like this.

If they are trying to crack down on immigration fraud, it is too little too late.

Instead they should reduce immigration to Canada for a few years or for longer until they can get their house in order. Anyway most skilled workers who immigrate to Canada are underemployed or unemployed. It is not good for the immigrants nor for the country as a whole.
 

123sMike

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They dont stop immigration, since immigrants get money to the country which enhances the canadian dollar value and the economy, the skilled people who come here are the mostly have to reeducate themselves, since there degrees are worth nothing..they have slowed the citizenship time so that they dont leave teh country in a hurry and stay and contribute in the eceonmy, second the conservative govet knows that the immigrants who become citizens dont vote for them..these are known statistics..fraud issue is just an excuse..
 

Dejaavu

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So in a way they are selling Canadian citizenship for money/investments and bring the skilled people with money or very wealthy in return for a citizenship of a developed country?
 

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Dejaavu. Yes its all about the money at the end. I know people at work who told me that their grandparents came to Canada with lots of money. They invested it, got the PR, left back to their home country (they didn't need to stay in Canada and count their days for the citizenship), then after a while came back and got the Citizenship and then went back again to their home country. I was more of an investment for their children and children's children...

Dejaavu said:
So in a way they are selling Canadian citizenship for money/investments and bring the skilled people with money or very wealthy in return for a citizenship of a developed country?
 

123sMike

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right, except people dont get jobs, the economies of scale for business is not too good and so some people who get jobs stay or whose business flourishes stay others contribute to the economy and then return or go somewhere else..if you see the real estate in Canada is always booming? why? because the immigrants coming in always wants housing or apartments on rent and so this keeps the markets moving..the canadian cities are also limited and they make high rises as compared to expanding the cities since they want to spend less on road and infrastructure to develop new areas and get out more from the same area by building high rises..another thing is cities grow or new cities develop where people like to live near the jobs,,if canada dont generate jobs then new cities dont get generated..th focus should be do generate jobs so nobody leaves this country, focus should be to reduce food, milk, groceries cost, everything should be grown inside the country..the focus should be to get no temp. foreign workers, right now the temp foreign workers have jobs and permanenet residents dont..since the business dont want to raise the salaries and so they get foreign workers on low wages and make lot of profit..the govt does not do nothing since the businesses support the political parties
 

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Dejaavu said:
So in a way they are selling Canadian citizenship for money/investments and bring the skilled people with money or very wealthy in return for a citizenship of a developed country?
Canada is run like a corporation, haven't you noticed it yet? It even has a PR/marketing team that recruits abroad like some kind of multinational company. Canada's logo with a flag is recognizable registered mark. It's not a country with history built around a nation with traditions that stands for something unique. It's almost entirely focused on money.

In Vancouver, for instance, Canadian government has already basically ruined lives of younger generation who are being squeezed from this city and the province by unrealistic RE prices and no jobs caused by allowing massive influx of foreign investors who need to transform their federal reserved notes into something real and are not so easily allowed anywhere else. It's all done purely for money.

Open immigration, a route when you just fill an application to come as opposed to finding job first like in the most countries now, is a form of reverse colonization.

People come with savings and either start working generating tax revenue or spend them away in Canada and even maybe forced to return back to their land because they can't find descent jobs. So yes, PR's are welcome, even if they leave after.

But when it comes to citizenship, why would the govt want to fix or speed up the process? They know very well thousands waiting to leave once they get passport, articles about this issue pop up constantly in newspapers. When someone is granted citizenship, they obtain more rights while government obtains more responsibilities, so it's better to delay this moment as much as possible. They can't cancel granting citizenship completely of course, because most of the productive people would leave or not come here at all.
 

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123sMike said:
..... second the conservative govet knows that the immigrants who become citizens dont vote for them..these are known statistics..fraud issue is just an excuse..
A fact that many on the forum may be unaware of is that the current government got its majority by obliterating the Liberals in Ontario. The former CIC minister was credited with this...guess who the votes came from.....ethnic (read immigrant) communities especially the GTA area. Lower GST, extended EI and all other economic goodies seem to have won the day...immigration is just not on the political radar for citizens..all they hear is the 'we are cracking down on fraud and keeping out the bad guys' rhetoric..its working!