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navinball

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desperate times call for desperate measures, walk around and visit all convienence stores, food stores etc in your area. some of them will need help. And yeah dont hand out a masters resume at a dollarama.
 

SithLord

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If you're finding it hard to even get a survival job then I think you're probably handing out the wrong CV.

What you need to do is have two different CVs. You can't hand out a CV to a coffee shop or food store that includes your masters degree/IT job as work experience. Because when you come in for the interview you will probably look more qualified than the interviewer. Usually, persons in such management roles would have started as a store assistant and worked their way up into a management position. So they know guys like us won't stick around for long because they will be wasting their valuable time and resources to train us and we will quit within 3 months once we get a job more suited to our profession. Hence they won't hire us and instead will pick students and college drop outs.
 
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tallguywithbeard

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If you're finding it hard to even get a survival job then I think you're probably handing out the wrong CV.

What you need to do is have two different CVs. You can't hand out a CV to a coffee shop or food store that includes your masters degree/IT job as work experience. Because when you come in for the interview you will probably look more qualified than the interviewer. Usually, persons in such management roles would have started as a store assistant and worked their way up into a management position. So they know guys like us won't stick around for long because they will be wasting their valuable time and resources to train us and we will quit within 3 months once we get a job more suited to our profession. Hence they won't hire us and instead will pick students and college drop outs.
But wouldn't it be easy to find these things out by a quick search anyway?

I'm having the same trouble as OP. Moved in to Canada in early Jan, been applying to jobs like crazy, did everything from workshops to network. 400+ jobs and got only 2 interviews, which didn't get to the second stage thanks to Coronavirus.

Survival jobs don't hire at all seeing my CV (Creative Director - Graphic Design with 8 years of experience). And if I leave any of it out, a quick google search shows the info up on my website/linkedin/social networks... its everywhere and impossible to remove it from all networks.

How do I hide the fact that I've a masters degree... they end up doing a background check by the second or third interview.

Thankfully had got enough funds to last 5-6 months... I'm not sure how to survive here by mid-June if there's still no job. As immigrants we all knew it will be hard, but with these special circumstances and lockdowns, I'm really hoping the govt steps in and does something for newcomers as well.
 

canuck78

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But wouldn't it be easy to find these things out by a quick search anyway?

I'm having the same trouble as OP. Moved in to Canada in early Jan, been applying to jobs like crazy, did everything from workshops to network. 400+ jobs and got only 2 interviews, which didn't get to the second stage thanks to Coronavirus.

Survival jobs don't hire at all seeing my CV (Creative Director - Graphic Design with 8 years of experience). And if I leave any of it out, a quick google search shows the info up on my website/linkedin/social networks... its everywhere and impossible to remove it from all networks.

How do I hide the fact that I've a masters degree... they end up doing a background check by the second or third interview.

Thankfully had got enough funds to last 5-6 months... I'm not sure how to survive here by mid-June if there's still no job. As immigrants we all knew it will be hard, but with these special circumstances and lockdowns, I'm really hoping the govt steps in and does something for newcomers as well.
You do qualify for welfare.
 

pemyrie

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I finished College in Kitchener, ON ( Post Grad Diploma) and started applying even before my course was finished. I sent out hundreds of application (via Indeed and other sources) and got 3 interviews and secured a job as an admin assistant. Even though I had 20 years working as a professional - I took the job. Fast forward 3 months and I started looking at other Provinces. I realized its better to apply for jobs in places where they had less ppl competing for 1 position. I secured employment in my field of expertise, packed my bags and moved from Ontario to British Columbia. So far its better weather as well as job opportunities. My salary has increased by 60% and I am living a much better quality life. My point is- dont restrict yourself- launch out! You already moved from home- might as well live somewhere where better opportunities exist.
 
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canuck78

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I finished College in Kitchener, ON ( Post Grad Diploma) and started applying even before my course was finished. I sent out hundreds of application (via Indeed and other sources) and got 3 interviews and secured a job as an admin assistant. Even though I had 20 years working as a professional - I took the job. Fast forward 3 months and I started looking at other Provinces. I realized its better to apply for jobs in places where they had less ppl competing for 1 position. I secured employment in my field of expertise, packed my bags and moved from Ontario to British Columbia. So far its better weather as well as job opportunities. My salary has increased by 60% and I am living a much better quality life. My point is- dont restrict yourself- launch out! You already moved from home- might as well live somewhere where better opportunities exist.
Agree that people have to apply to all provinces and territories.
 

cec1985

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Folks - these are really tough times even for people who have been living here for years...I would suggest that you focus on your non-technical skills/soft skills and be ready when things go back to normal. Take some courses on these topics, if possible.

I think none of us would be happy forever in "Survival jobs", so even i go back to 1-2 month ago (pre-COVID), newcomers continue to face challenges in finding good employment opportunities. I was just on phone with a very experienced person (with IT background), and it was hard to see that he couldn't provide a good answer on "Tell me about yourself" and "why should i hire you"....For years, i've seen people struggle on these things, and nobody seems to focus on these items that btw, matters the most to CDN employers, and not necessarily how may yrs of work ex, how many degree/courses we have....

Its very saddening- the fact that when i offered to help, the only question i get is where can i find a job, alas nowhere??
Pls get out of this mindset, i know its very hard, but is the Truth - i myself learnt this the hard way!

First you need to polish yourself, if you really are aiming for those good jobs that i m sure a lot us came here for!

Send me a msg, if you would like to discuss offline
 

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Folks - these are really tough times even for people who have been living here for years...I would suggest that you focus on your non-technical skills/soft skills and be ready when things go back to normal. Take some courses on these topics, if possible.

I think none of us would be happy forever in "Survival jobs", so even i go back to 1-2 month ago (pre-COVID), newcomers continue to face challenges in finding good employment opportunities. I was just on phone with a very experienced person (with IT background), and it was hard to see that he couldn't provide a good answer on "Tell me about yourself" and "why should i hire you"....For years, i've seen people struggle on these things, and nobody seems to focus on these items that btw, matters the most to CDN employers, and not necessarily how may yrs of work ex, how many degree/courses we have....

Its very saddening- the fact that when i offered to help, the only question i get is where can i find a job, alas nowhere??
Pls get out of this mindset, i know its very hard, but is the Truth - i myself learnt this the hard way!

First you need to polish yourself, if you really are aiming for those good jobs that i m sure a lot us came here for!

Send me a msg, if you would like to discuss offline
Why do you have so many posts encouraging people to message you offline? Are you offering a service? Is this your way of advertising?
 

cec1985

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Not selling anything- had some downtime due to whats going on outside, so thought of visiting this forum after years of when i last posted something, and see if can provide some assistance. You can probably check when my last post was before April 2020.

That said, it's unfortunate, what tends to get focused- no wonder things have not really changed over so many years

Good luck!
 

vinay16

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Hi SithLord,
Nice to read that you have finally got your CoPR. Hope you remember me from December 2018 AoR group. I completed my sotf landing in Oct 2019 and came back here on 15th March 2020. I think the worst time to land here. It's been a real struggle till now. I have made at least 7-8 resumes and have been making edits as per JD. But it's really difficult to get job atm. Moreover, you can't take risk of getting infected at the same time or you will be gone..! I can simply suggest to stay where you are at least for a year or so then come here..!
If you're finding it hard to even get a survival job then I think you're probably handing out the wrong CV.

What you need to do is have two different CVs. You can't hand out a CV to a coffee shop or food store that includes your masters degree/IT job as work experience. Because when you come in for the interview you will probably look more qualified than the interviewer. Usually, persons in such management roles would have started as a store assistant and worked their way up into a management position. So they know guys like us won't stick around for long because they will be wasting their valuable time and resources to train us and we will quit within 3 months once we get a job more suited to our profession. Hence they won't hire us and instead will pick students and college drop outs.

I am thinking about the same. However, I'm not finding anything in BC as well. I'm having 6 years of exp in IT background. Hope something may work out. If you have any leads, please DM me.
I finished College in Kitchener, ON ( Post Grad Diploma) and started applying even before my course was finished. I sent out hundreds of application (via Indeed and other sources) and got 3 interviews and secured a job as an admin assistant. Even though I had 20 years working as a professional - I took the job. Fast forward 3 months and I started looking at other Provinces. I realized its better to apply for jobs in places where they had less ppl competing for 1 position. I secured employment in my field of expertise, packed my bags and moved from Ontario to British Columbia. So far its better weather as well as job opportunities. My salary has increased by 60% and I am living a much better quality life. My point is- dont restrict yourself- launch out! You already moved from home- might as well live somewhere where better opportunities exist.
I can feel your pain..! I'm in the same boat and I can completely co-related with this. I'm being told that I'm over qualified for many positions. and due to this, it's really hard to survive. I know even people with 20-30 yrs of exp have been laid off. But newcomers have their own struggles and it's difficult time ahead..! And it's not possible to hide your social media profiles and job board profiles.
But wouldn't it be easy to find these things out by a quick search anyway?

I'm having the same trouble as OP. Moved in to Canada in early Jan, been applying to jobs like crazy, did everything from workshops to network. 400+ jobs and got only 2 interviews, which didn't get to the second stage thanks to Coronavirus.

Survival jobs don't hire at all seeing my CV (Creative Director - Graphic Design with 8 years of experience). And if I leave any of it out, a quick google search shows the info up on my website/linkedin/social networks... its everywhere and impossible to remove it from all networks.

How do I hide the fact that I've a masters degree... they end up doing a background check by the second or third interview.

Thankfully had got enough funds to last 5-6 months... I'm not sure how to survive here by mid-June if there's still no job. As immigrants we all knew it will be hard, but with these special circumstances and lockdowns, I'm really hoping the govt steps in and does something for newcomers as well.
I have been working on soft skills and certifications but sometimes, it's not easy. I have been talking to many people and recruiters. And due to COVID-19, I can't go for survival jobs as well. I just hope something may work out soon. If you have any leads, feel free to DM me. I would be happy to talk further.
Folks - these are really tough times even for people who have been living here for years...I would suggest that you focus on your non-technical skills/soft skills and be ready when things go back to normal. Take some courses on these topics, if possible.

I think none of us would be happy forever in "Survival jobs", so even i go back to 1-2 month ago (pre-COVID), newcomers continue to face challenges in finding good employment opportunities. I was just on phone with a very experienced person (with IT background), and it was hard to see that he couldn't provide a good answer on "Tell me about yourself" and "why should i hire you"....For years, i've seen people struggle on these things, and nobody seems to focus on these items that btw, matters the most to CDN employers, and not necessarily how may yrs of work ex, how many degree/courses we have....

Its very saddening- the fact that when i offered to help, the only question i get is where can i find a job, alas nowhere??
Pls get out of this mindset, i know its very hard, but is the Truth - i myself learnt this the hard way!

First you need to polish yourself, if you really are aiming for those good jobs that i m sure a lot us came here for!

Send me a msg, if you would like to discuss offline
 

JaaKaaa

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@vinay16 @cec1985 @pemyrie @tallguywithbeard

Hi guys!
I was just wondering, what documents employers ask when hiring new personnel? Do we need to submit diplomas?
I have masters degree, should I send to WES my high school diploma so I have something to give to HR when signing a contract?
Do we need to have our credentials assessed and recognized in order to apply to any position?

I am still waiting for CoPR, just planning things. Hope you understand my dilemma.
 

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@vinay16 @cec1985 @pemyrie @tallguywithbeard

Hi guys!
I was just wondering, what documents employers ask when hiring new personnel? Do we need to submit diplomas?
I have masters degree, should I send to WES my high school diploma so I have something to give to HR when signing a contract?
Do we need to have our credentials assessed and recognized in order to apply to any position?

I am still waiting for CoPR, just planning things. Hope you understand my dilemma.
It's extremely rare for employers to ask for educational assessments. Do not bother having it assessed through WES.
 
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vinay16

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@vinay16 @cec1985 @pemyrie @tallguywithbeard

Hi guys!
I was just wondering, what documents employers ask when hiring new personnel? Do we need to submit diplomas?
I have masters degree, should I send to WES my high school diploma so I have something to give to HR when signing a contract?
Do we need to have our credentials assessed and recognized in order to apply to any position?

I am still waiting for CoPR, just planning things. Hope you understand my dilemma.
No need to do that as far as I know.
 
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besbi07

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Well then I’d probably either look in different locations for jobs , and support is called welfare, only if you’re PR Citizen
go with your location " OPEN DOOR Society" and attend for some programs regarding newly landed immigrant. you can even see some hiring right in their office board.

good luck
 

abhishkhare

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I guess a lot of people are in the same boat including me, it's been hard finding a new job given that my skills are very niche (MES/Manufacturing Automation/Apriso). I have been learning new technologies to suit the market but it looks like a long road ahead.
If anyone can help with reviewing my resume or suggesting any new tech which I can learn in a few months I would be very grateful.

Also to all the people who are struggling due to the current Covid situation. I guess it's a time when we need to keep ourselves sane by learning new technologies and wait for the situation to get better. I hope everyone's struggle ends soon.