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Duped2016

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Jan 26, 2016
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Hi
I am a Canadian Citizen who recently sponsored my husband to Canada. We choose the Inland Sponsorship route. The process took about 2 years to finalize.
Over the past 2 years, I took care of him. Food, Shelter, Clothing, Money you name it, I covered it. Everything seemed to be going well. We were so happy to get the call for the landing interview and have the process over and done with. There was so much we had planned on doing, however all of that changed once he signed the COPR. He berates me in front of my friends and family. He constantly tells me his friends and family doesn't like me. He tries to control the way I spend my money. Up to this day, I don't know how much money he brings home. He does not want me to spend time with my friends and family. All of a sudden, nothing I do is ever good enough for him. I just can't take the constant yelling and fighting anymore. I am totally stressed out and depressed now.
I have suggested marriage counselling, but he says I am the one who has the issue, so I can go by myself if I want too. Friend have told me that he is talking to other women and that he is planning on moving out.

I called CIC 3 times and explained the situation and all 3 times, they seem to be advocating for my husband. I called a number of immigration lawyers to find out what I can do and it appears that the lawyers focus on trying to help people stay in Canada.
I thought Condition 51 was suppose to protect Canadian citizens from people who use Canadians ?

Can anyone shed some light on what I need to do please?
 

surleplateau

Star Member
Sep 13, 2013
189
14
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-12-2014
Doc's Request.
CSQ rqst'd 23-03-2015
Nomination.....
CSQ rcv'd 05-05-2015
AOR Received.
27-02-2015 err?
File Transfer...
09-03-2015
Med's Request
upfront
Med's Done....
09-09-2014
Interview........
waived; IP Sep 2015
Passport Req..
waived
VISA ISSUED...
COPR 22-10-2015
LANDED..........
09-01-2016 YAY!!!
I thought Condition 51 was suppose to protect Canadian citizens from people who use Canadians ?
I am so sorry that your husband waited until he signed his COPR to show his true face. :(

I believe Condition 51 is meant to discourage non-Canadians from using Canadians as a means-to-an-end, so in that sense, it is a form of protection by way of discouragement.

You cannot change who your husband is. You can only protect yourself by:

1. Stop living with him and inform CIC that you are no longer living together, and that the marriage is over.

2. File for divorce (get a lawyer to protect yourself!).

After your take those two steps, it should be in CIC's hands to deal with your soon-to-be-ex-husband.

Marriage counseling and attempts to change him points towards keeping the marriage alive. But the reality is that your husband was always a bad person who only showed his true face when he got what he wanted (COPR).

He will try to stop you from leaving him and divorcing him, because you are his "ticket" to Canada. But be free of him and let CIC take care of him.
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
97,672
23,382
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
CIC isn't going to make a move until you have actually separated. Agreed that you need to move out at a minimum and stop living together - and preferably file for divorce as well. Then provide this evidence to CIC along with a statement along the same lines of what you have posted here (i.e. behaviour changed as soon as he got his COPR). If I were in your shoes I would flat out state that you now believe your husband entered into a relationship with you as a marriage of convenience specifically to obtain Canadian immigration benefits.
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
97,672
23,382
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
BTW: I would hurry. There is talk of the Liberals removing conditional PR (which I have always thought was a massive FAIL on their part and a complete and utter miss on comprehending why this rule was put in place to begin with).
 

Duped2016

Newbie
Jan 26, 2016
3
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Thank you for all the advise. I really appreciate it.

I called the CBSA Border Watch hotline and they gave me a file number. I was advised to send in the background information of the relationship and the details of what happened after he landed.
I really pray that CBSA or CIC look into my case. The officer on the phone was really helpful, however she said that the Border watch gets about 1000 calls a year, where Canadians have been used by foreigners who want permanent residence in Canada AKA he wins and gets to live happily ever after in Canada.

I made an appointment with a divorce lawyer and the paper work should be filed this coming week.
He already told me that he plans on destroying me. He took half his stuff and plans on getting the rest of his stuff in the week.
All I can do now, is try to protect myself the best way how.
Thank you everyone for your support and your advice.
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
97,672
23,382
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
If he sends you any emails or texts - keep them all as evidence. Don't delete a single thing. Same goes for voice mails.

Good luck.
 

VioletBlue

Hero Member
Aug 30, 2013
306
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Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
WOW! I am so sorry this is happening to you! I hope you can kick his sorry ass out of this country and he can never return! ...Just curious, just How exactly is he planning to "destroy" you? What a piece of shit!
 

june1990

Hero Member
Jul 9, 2014
281
3
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
is he a permanent resident now? for what i have read before, once CIC gave the decision, they can't take it back anymore unless yeah, you guys are married less than 2 or 3 years i think, and no common child. but i might be wrong ::) im not always updated with their rules :'( anyways goodluck to you i hope you figure everything out :)
 

sunshinemrc

Hero Member
Dec 16, 2013
209
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VioletBlue said:
WOW! I am so sorry this is happening to you! I hope you can kick his sorry ass out of this country and he can never return! ...Just curious, just How exactly is he planning to "destroy" you? What a piece of *censored word*!
I'm assuming he can destroy her financially. If she owns a house/condo he is entitled to half of it, it being a matrimonial home (unless they had a prenup, which is doubtful). Plus any other money/investments. If he's a scum he will make her life hell. its truly an awful situation.
 

VioletBlue

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Aug 30, 2013
306
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Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Oh right...he can go on income assistance and she would have to pay for it back...ugj hope she can get this sorted out and send him packing!



sunshinemrc said:
I'm assuming he can destroy her financially. If she owns a house/condo he is entitled to half of it, it being a matrimonial home (unless they had a prenup, which is doubtful). Plus any other money/investments. If he's a scum he will make her life hell. its truly an awful situation.
 

lonelyguy

Hero Member
Apr 21, 2015
360
12
Quebec
Category........
Visa Office......
Nairobi
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Feb09
Doc's Request.
June/10th
AOR Received.
N/A
File Transfer...
April 23rd
Med's Done....
Done before(January),renewed, April 2016
Interview........
None
Passport Req..
May/09th/16
VISA ISSUED...
May 17th/16.
LANDED..........
22nd/2016
I am sorry to hear what your supposed husband did. he lack wisdom I can say.I would suggest you to do your best to save your marriage, but I can see already from what you said that you tried your best by inviting him to a marriage counselor.maybe give him a last chance before you leave him. invite him in good situation, to discuss. if possible record the conversation. show him how you came far from with him, show him that you wish to save your marriage but he is not making things easier for you.remind him that you are human being to one day you might be tired to be patient.(by the way does he know that you have filled the divorce)? so in case you see clearly that he is determined not to keep that marriage.move out. don't give him a chance to make you pregnant as well.people who lived together most of the time are tempted to keep in touch even after divorce or separation. remember if you do this after you move out you will simply be giiving him more chances.always collect much evidence from him as much as you can but do not allow him to get anything from you.Discover all ways he will use to get you back including people who will come talking to you nicely. and avoid all of that. such people using others , are really villain.

Don't worry you will get some1 who will love you not for what he wants on you but for your values.and if you get another person don't rush in giving him documents.
 

PMM

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Jun 30, 2005
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Hi


sunshinemrc said:
I'm assuming he can destroy her financially. If she owns a house/condo he is entitled to half of it, it being a matrimonial home (unless they had a prenup, which is doubtful). Plus any other money/investments. If he's a scum he will make her life hell. its truly an awful situation.
1. Unlikely, if the house was purchased prior to the marriage and it is short marriage, it is unlikely in a divorce that there would be an equal division of property.
 

sunshinemrc

Hero Member
Dec 16, 2013
209
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PMM said:
Hi


1. Unlikely, if the house was purchased prior to the marriage and it is short marriage, it is unlikely in a divorce that there would be an equal division of property.
Matrimonial home is the exception to property division. See below:

The Matrimonial home is the place where you and your spouse reside at the time of separation/divorce. Unlike other property, if you owned the matrimonial home on the date of marriage, you do not receive any credit for it when you separate. Also, it doesn’t matter who has their name on the papers for the house, both spouses have an equal right to remain in the matrimonial home.
As noted above, this is just a very general overview and laws will vary from one province/territory to another. To get more specific information on laws for your specific area you can visit your provincial government website, or retain a family lawyer.
 

ayrazar

Hero Member
Jul 2, 2015
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Adultery is pretty good grounds though, depending on what 'talking to other women' meant.

I second saving EVERY communication.

I'm glad you were able to get a lawyer.

All the best, man. I'm sorry this happened. Don't allow yourself to feel dumb. Some people are masters of manipulation.