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Canadian common-law partner unemployed sponsering British Citizen?..

mitten

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May 21, 2013
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Hello,
I am a British citizen being sponsored by my Canadian boyfriend through the common-law criteria. We have lived together for over a year in several different countries, starting Australia where we met at a backpackers and lived in a tent (we have picture proof/ friends family) and then lived with my parents in England and now living together with his parents in Canada. I am just here as a visitor and can stay for 6 months without visa (although I will be applying for an extension while my PR application processes).
As I stated we are living together in his parents, and plan to do so for about a year. We have been in Canada since May and he isn't looking for work as he has sufficient savings (around $6000 and I have the same). He is not planning on working temporarily because he is an artist and makes guitars etc so is trying to build himself up with some stock to maybe in the future be self employed and to also spend time with his family after travelling for 2 years. He is 26, and myself 20, so employable with a good CV and references.

1) Will it be an issue that he is un-employed and not looking for work whilst we are both living together in Canada and filing a PR application for myself.

2) Will it help if he had a letter from a previous employer offering him a full time well paid job in October after he has finished building/ painting etc.

Thanks for your help
 

wowsers

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I am only replying because for some unknown reason persons with more experience than I have on this occasion remained silent. Q1. Have a look at the guide IMM 3900 in the section headed Sponsorship eligibility. Your boyfriend has to give an undertaking to provide for your basic requirements but does not have to prove that he has a sufficient income to enable him to satisfy the undertaking. Q2. It would certainly help to prove a job offer!.
 

amikety

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It is possible CIC may ask for proof of funds or how he plans to support you. (After all, he signs the undertaking promising to support you for 3 years.)

1) CIC will have questions. Hopefully you've submitted proof of savings and a letter from his parents offering to support you.

2) Not really. Paystubs are better proof, as it proves you've actually accepted the job and started working. I would include it, just understand it doesn't carry enough weight on it's own.

If CIC requests more proof, he can write a letter explaining his business plan. CIC can also take into account your ability to work, savings, and help from family. That includes your family, so if your parents want to write a support letter too, they can. (The more, the merrier?) :D
 

herewecome

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Some people have been rejected as sponsors if they cannot show a way to support the applicant. $12000 for a year isn't really sufficient to live in Canada especially when it will be diminished come COPR issuance time, so make sure education and work experience is diligently included.
 

mitten

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May 21, 2013
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herewecome said:
COPR issuance time
What is this, I'm aware the PR app is going to cost me around $1800 altogether. $12000 for us for a year is more than enough, we spend on average no more than $150 a month each for everything. We're travellers, not consumers haha
 

opmama

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mitten said:
What is this, I'm aware the PR app is going to cost me around $1800 altogether. $12000 for us for a year is more than enough, we spend on average no more than $150 a month each for everything. We're travellers, not consumers haha
This is a good example of where what's "possible" and what's "believable" are likely two different things...
 

herewecome

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mitten said:
What is this, I'm aware the PR app is going to cost me around $1800 altogether. $12000 for us for a year is more than enough, we spend on average no more than $150 a month each for everything. We're travellers, not consumers haha
Because you are being supported by your partners parents. Housing taxes, rent/mortgage, heating, healthcare and food and you're looking at almost 10 times that. He is sponsoring you and so needs to agree to pay for all of these costs.

COPR is PR
 

amikety

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herewecome said:
Because you are being supported by your partners parents. Housing taxes, rent/mortgage, heating, healthcare and food and you're looking at almost 10 times that. He is sponsoring you and so needs to agree to pay for all of these costs.
That's not necessarily true. If parents agree to support the couple, then it's fine. We've had many students with little or no income sponsor their partner/spouse with help from family.
 

herewecome

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If that's what his parents are doing then yes that would help a lot and that needs to be included in the application. They could be one of the statutory declarations stating they will take on the financial liability.
 

amikety

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herewecome said:
If that's what his parents are doing then yes that would help a lot and that needs to be included in the application. They could be one of the statutory declarations stating they will take on the financial liability.
You can't have a co-signer for spousal applications.
 

herewecome

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I know which is why I didn't mention so-signers ;)

OP some similar threads that may help

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/how-many-have-gotten-sponsor-approval-on-low-incomeliving-with-parents-t76487.0.html

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/spousal-sponsorship-while-unemployed-t73436.0.html
 

parker24

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herewecome said:
I know but in the same way a lot of people have statutory declaration that state children will live with parents when e establishing themselves in Canada, the parents stating they intend to help financially along with the Canadian citizen's qualifications and job experience and future employment plans will help the OP strengthen their case.
My parents letter never mentioned financial ANYTHING because, they would not pay for anything of ours. They provided a MUCH cheaper place to stay, that was it. (along with meals obviously) And we still got through. I barely work. I'm on ODSP. Still got through. A letter is helpful yes, but doesn't need to say "We will help them with money". As most parents do not do that anyway.
 

herewecome

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But they do in the OPs case if they're only outgoings are $150 a month. What happens if someone gets sick and needs to see a doctor etc before healthcare kicks in? Or the dentist? $150 even if living at home is not a realistic figure for monthly income IMHO.

If they offer a place to stay and cover food bills they are helping financially. Heating, housing and food is not free.
 

parker24

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herewecome said:
But they do in the OPs case if they're only outgoings are $150 a month. What happens if someone gets sick and needs to see a doctor etc?
If the citizen does, it's covered. If the visitor does, payment plan. Our bills were around 700-750. I made 400-700 (I am on-call 4 jobs, so my income was not steady by any means) a month. It was difficult. I was surprised that they didn't question that. Just having a letter saying that we can stay with my parents apparently helped.

In any case, yes a letter from the parents helps.
 

herewecome

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parker24 said:
If the citizen does, it's covered. If the visitor does, payment plan. Our bills were around 700-750. I made 400-700 (I am on-call 4 jobs, so my income was not steady by any means) a month. It was difficult. I was surprised that they didn't question that. Just having a letter saying that we can stay with my parents apparently helped.

In any case, yes a letter from the parents helps.
And your income level is a lot more realistic :) and doable but as you say, a struggle. $150 is unrealistic.