Canadian Child on PR application

[PMM]

Hi

Hi,

I have a question related to same topic. I got my passport back yesterday with PR approved but it says that name of all my family members should be on the letter which they sent along with the passport. My daughter was born in Canada and does not have her name on the form. Do I need to get her name added or can I just do flagpoling ? I have already sent copy of her passport some time back to CIC.

Thanks.

1. Your daughter is a Canadian citizen, and is not included in your application and her name will not be added.
2. You just "land" by either flagpoling or making an appointment through the call centre.

 

[nlaslett]

Sorry to keep adding to an old thread, but there seem to be some knowledgeable people here...

I'm filling out my IMM 00008 and confused / concerned about whether or not I need to include my Canadian citizen wife and child as dependents on the form. (Child was born outside of Canada but has citizenship and passport through mom.)

On one hand, all the stated reasons for these declarations (and medical exams!) are for possible future immigration. That clearly doesn't apply to us.

On the other hand, the official instructions practically scream:

"If you’re applying for permanent residence in Canada, you must declare all of your family members. There are no exceptions to this requirement.

If a permanent resident doesn’t declare all their family members on their application, they could risk losing their permanent resident status."​

The IMM 00008 itself states:

"You must include your spouse or common-law partner, if applicable, and all of your dependent children, and those of your spouse or common-law partner, who are not already permanent residents or citizens of Canada."​

This is an unfortunate sentence; depending on how you interpret the commas, "who are not already permanent residents or citizens of Canada" could apply to all family members, all children, or only children of your partner. That's a big risk to take over a point of grammar, especially since "there are no exceptions to this requirement".

Can anybody offer guidance?

Of course, they are both listed on the Additional Family Information (IMM 5406) form and I will be including a copy of their Canadian passports as supporting documents per the Document Checklist (IMM 5533).

Thanks in advance,
Neil

 

[jes_ON]

I'm filling out my IMM 00008 and confused / concerned about whether or not I need to include my Canadian citizen wife and child as dependents on the form. (Child was born outside of Canada but has citizenship and passport through mom.)

On the other hand, the official instructions practically scream:

"If you’re applying for permanent residence in Canada, you must declare all of your family members. There are no exceptions to this requirement.

If a permanent resident doesn’t declare all their family members on their application, they could risk losing their permanent resident status."

You must declare them, but they are not co-applicants for PR and do not get added to the IMM 0008. You include them on the Additional Family Information form, and you write a letter of explanation that your spouse and child are already Canadian citizens, and include proof of citizenship (e.g. copies of passports).

IRCC is a bureacracy that attempts to simplify things. That means that if you are married to a Canadian, it is assumed you will be a Family Class applicant. Economic class applicants are assumed to not have Canadian spouses and children. ​

The IMM 00008 itself states:

"You must include your spouse or common-law partner, if applicable, and all of your dependent children, and those of your spouse or common-law partner, who are not already permanent residents or citizens of Canada."​

This is an unfortunate sentence; depending on how you interpret the commas, "who are not already permanent residents or citizens of Canada" could apply to all family members, all children, or only children of your partner. That's a big risk to take over a point of grammar, especially since "there are no exceptions to this requirement".

??? Sorry, I don't get what the risk is. If you have a non-Canadian partner who is a co-applicant for PR, yes, ALL of his/her children must be included on the application, as well as your own.

 

[nlaslett]

Ah, I see my confusion: I thought that the requirement to declare all family members meant adding them to the PR application itself (IMM0008). But if declaring them simply means listing them on the Additional Family Info Form and providing their proof of citizenship docs, then I should be good.

Thank you for clarifying!

Regarding that sentence on the IMM 0008, the confusion is around Canadian-citizen partners and children, as in:

• You must include your spouse or common-law partner [regardless of status]
  
• and all of your dependent children [regardless of status]
  
• and those of your spouse or common-law partner, who are not already permanent residents or citizens of Canada

Granted, that's a bit pedantic, but ambiguous punctuation can be a real problem.

 

[jes_ON]

Ah, I see my confusion: I thought that the requirement to declare all family members meant adding them to the PR application itself (IMM0008).
It DOES mean that : ) But only those who are not already Canadian citizens or PRs, because they would not be applying for PR.

But if declaring them simply means listing them on the Additional Family Info Form and providing their proof of citizenship docs, then I should be good.
In GENERAL, that is not what it means. It only means that if they are already Canadian Citizens or PR, because they are not co-applicants for PR on your application.

An alternative is to list them as non-accompanying, and then upload an explanation with their documents.

IRCC does not provide instructions for this circumstance, because it does not anticipate it - they would expect you to apply through family class. Lots of people do it this way, tho, and use one of those two options without any problems.