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Canada visi visa rejected twice

Bryanna

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Hi,

Did you get your passport back? What's the validity of your TRV? And for how long do you intend to visit?


Cheers
 

sayadil

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Sep 7, 2016
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Bryanna said:
Hi,

Did you get your passport back? What's the validity of your TRV? And for how long do you intend to visit?


Cheers

Bryanna sent you a private msg please check. need your help.
 

marcus66502

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Regina said:
Then he will be at home soon. Your anniversaries in such circumstances are not a big deal for VO. When your husband left for Canada he knew about them and their importance for you but left nevertheless.

And when your husband will graduate?
This pretty much hits the nail right on the head.

When visa applicants in your situation say "visit" Canada, visa officers think "family unification", and that's not what a visitor visa is for.

A professional who wants to attend a conference in his field is a visitor. Someone who wants to join her spouse in Canada is NOT a visitor. No matter what personal details you feed the visa officer (anniversaries, etc.) you simply do not qualify for a visitor visa.

And we've not yet even asked you the other crucial question: Why doesn't your husband visit you in your home country instead? That would be much cheaper and with fewer hassles. No visitor visa required to visit your own country, ... last time I checked.
 

sayadil

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marcus66502 said:
This pretty much hits the nail right on the head.

When visa applicants in your situation say "visit" Canada, visa officers think "family unification", and that's not what a visitor visa is for.

A professional who wants to attend a conference in his field is a visitor. Someone who wants to join her spouse in Canada is NOT a visitor. No matter what personal details you feed the visa officer (anniversaries, etc.) you simply do not qualify for a visitor visa.

And we've not yet even asked you the other crucial question: Why doesn't your husband visit you in your home country instead? That would be much cheaper and with fewer hassles. No visitor visa required to visit your own country, ... last time I checked.

Marcus. I just wanted to ask... isn't it normal for spouses or family members to visit you. if you have had visitors from around the world and sent them back on time why would u suddenly change. if there r people who r abusing the system why don't they catch those people and take action. why make it hard for everyone else. I mean i came to canada in 2000 as a student when i did feel i should make canada my home i properly applied for residency without having my visa expired and was allowed. if my application would have been denied i would have left. we followed the legal process. similarly a person needs his immediate family visiting him from time to time. whats wrong with that as long as you make sure they leave before visa expires. i feel for 1000s of people who abuse the system a lot more have to deal with hassle. i think its normal for your spouse to be to visit you. if two people wanna live together they do have option of sponsoring the spouse so you can do that legally as well.

Permanent residents will have more reason for family to visit them than anyone else yet its weird how they deal with the applications. A whole family taking a holiday together is made an issue. (Family ties theory). if you leave ur family members behind to take a holiday how unfair it is for them. they will sulk knowing half of the family is enjoying.

just my view.
 

marcus66502

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sayadil said:
Marcus. I just wanted to ask... isn't it normal for spouses or family members to visit you. if you have had visitors from around the world and sent them back on time why would u suddenly change. if there r people who r abusing the system why don't they catch those people and take action. why make it hard for everyone else. I mean i came to canada in 2000 as a student when i did feel i should make canada my home i properly applied for residency without having my visa expired and was allowed. if my application would have been denied i would have left. we followed the legal process. similarly a person needs his immediate family visiting him from time to time. whats wrong with that as long as you make sure they leave before visa expires. i feel for 1000s of people who abuse the system a lot more have to deal with hassle. i think its normal for your spouse to be to visit you. if two people wanna live together they do have option of sponsoring the spouse so you can do that legally as well.

Permanent residents will have more reason for family to visit them than anyone else yet its weird how they deal with the applications. A whole family taking a holiday together is made an issue. (Family ties theory). if you leave ur family members behind to take a holiday how unfair it is for them. they will sulk knowing half of the family is enjoying.

just my view.
Yes. But it's NOT normal for family members to take all the trouble to submit a mountain of documents, and reapply if necessary, just for a visit visa. Someone who does all this would not be a genuine visitor. He smells of somebody who is desperate to flee his country and get into Canada. This is an obvious fact and it does not go away because you ignore it.

You haven't answered the main question: why does it make sense for your foreign relatives to go to all this visa application trouble just to be able to fly half way around the world? It's a lot cheaper and a lot less hassle for YOU to go visit them in your own country. Either way, you see each other, right?

It's well known that Canada is more expensive than most places on earth so your relatives visiting you in Canada would cost a lot more money. If you're taking this more expensive course of action, this would lead me as a visa officer to suspect that your relatives are not genuine visitors but have other motives.

If you're going to reply to my posts, then answer the above questions and spare me any other emotional speeches that have nothing to do with the question at hand. Those I'm not interested in.
 

sayadil

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marcus66502 said:
Yes. But it's NOT normal for family members to take all the trouble to submit a mountain of documents, and reapply if necessary, just for a visit visa. Someone who does all this would not be a genuine visitor. He smells of somebody who is desperate to flee his country and get into Canada. This is an obvious fact and it does not go away because you ignore it.

You haven't answered the main question: why does it make sense for your foreign relatives to go to all this visa application trouble just to be able to fly half way around the world? It's a lot cheaper and a lot less hassle for YOU to go visit them in your own country. Either way, you see each other, right?

It's well known that Canada is more expensive than most places on earth so your relatives visiting you in Canada would cost a lot more money. If you're taking this more expensive course of action, this would lead me as a visa officer to suspect that your relatives are not genuine visitors but have other motives.

If you're going to reply to my posts, then answer the above questions and spare me any other emotional speeches that have nothing to do with the question at hand. Those I'm not interested in.
Ok theres a difference between relatives and immediate family... immediate family needs to see you and will do their best to see you. all the legal formalities and documents are not the problem. problem is when u do submit all or most of them... a biased visa officer rejects it for reasons which make no sense ( like family ties or Purpose of visit... two notorious refusal reasons). flying half way around the world is not even a reasoning.... my family for example has visited almost every known tourist country.... Germany switzerland italy france spain uk singapore malaysia thailand hongkong USA and even Canada. flying is always involved... what can you do... if you don't wanna fly you would be stuck in one country only...

Your mistaken if you think a canadian city is more expensive than say like Delhi.... properties start at 500k for small apartment going up to minimum 3 million for a house going up to staggering 50 million for some houses in posh neighbourhoods. Eating out to a dine in restaurant will cost you minimum 100$ for two. international hotel chains start at around 200$ a night. Buying a car here costs double of what u pay in canada so does most utilities and electronics.

so living here is definitely more expensive. Ur confusing that with the fact lot of poor people do live here but they are on lot of subsidies from the govt.

again nothing I'm writing here in emotional. most people who have been to both places will relate to what I'm saying. I do visit my family here and i agree its no hassle but that takes away from my work and also makes it difficult with residency obligation too...


well i hope travel is easier for people who respect the system. your travel history is a good indication... also if someone does not respect the laws than that person can be denied entry.... lets make it easy for others and understand its normal for families to spend holidays together.
 

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sayadil said:
if you don't wanna fly you would be stuck in one country only...
Not necessary. They can drive/walk or take train, bus or cruiseship travel to other countries.
 

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Yes. But it's NOT normal for family members to take all the trouble to submit a mountain of documents, and reapply if necessary, just for a visit visa. Someone who does all this would not be a genuine visitor. He smells of somebody who is desperate to flee his country and get into Canada. This is an obvious fact and it does not go away because you ignore it.
Isn't that people have to do the same if they apply for a Schengen visa? It does not mean they would not be a genuine visitor.
 

lauris17

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Hi Bryanna and all other experienced members of this community. Guys I need some advice and suggestions on behalf of ur experiences. Well I am Canadian citizen, staying in Canada for almost 9 years. This year I got blessed with first baby. I really want my brother from India must visit me next year for my baby first birthday. I am looking to send invitation to him to visit me. He is 36 years old and holding a family of two kids and wife. He is been working for well known company for almost 10 years, full time permanent job. What u guys suggest to me for irrelevant documentation during file his application I should submit ?. Before a post I read about a letter from chartered accountant. What kind of declaration letter it is? Any suggestions and comments would be appreciate. Thanks to all of u.
 

Bryanna

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@lauris17

Your invitation letter must not give your baby's birthday celebrations as the only reason to visit. Is he visiting alone or with his family? And for how long?

Your brother must prove his strong ties to India: employment + property/land ownership or lease agreement + family ties + previous travel history + good financial situation, etc

The CA letter is not a letter but a 'Net Worth' certificate or for a property valuation. This is not necessary though

Do post the list of documents so that we can advise better


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If you're suggesting that your staying with your family in your country is as expensive as hosting your family in Canada, well ... that's so ridiculous it's beneath deserving a response.
I disagree. Sometimes it's reasonable.
 

lauris17

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@ bryanna
Kindly thanks for reply. What could be else other reason u can suggest? Nothing is in my mind though. I was thinking it's the best reason for invitation letter. My brother never been out of country. It would be first visit for him out of country if he get visa. I was planning to send me him Singapore or any another country that accept Visa on arrival. Would u suggest?. For documentation I was planning to submit his vacation letter/no objection letter, birth certificate for his kids, marriage certificate, bank statement for last six month and property will by my father for him and income tax return for last 2 years, salary slip, fixed deposit on his child name and life and medical insurance papers. Looking forward to hear from you. Your suggestions would be recommended in future. Kindly thanks for keeping up in this forum.
 

nandu23

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Bryanna said:
Hi,

Did you get your passport back? What's the validity of your TRV? And for how long do you intend to visit?


Cheers
I just got my passport.
It's a single entry and validity is only for six months.
I cannot go without my baby and my visa expires on March 2017. Please suggest
 

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nandu23 said:
I just got my passport.
It's a single entry and validity is only for six months.
I cannot go without my baby and my visa expires on March 2017. Please suggest
You'll need to apply for a visitor visa for your baby.
 
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