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yijiequ said:
this is bullshit! you know i am never a fan of Trudeau.. but again i live in a small town, i am not those elites. but rather a working class.

He promised to reunite the families but guess what still cases are taking more then a year or 2 :D Never trust these politicians LOL. Like they didn't even open the file for 5.5 months LOL what the F are these case workers doing.
 
naveedali said:
He promised to reunite the families but guess what still cases are taking more then a year or 2 :D Never trust these politicians LOL. Like they didn't even open the file for 5.5 months LOL what the F are these case workers doing.

it is fine. whenever i miss my wife, i simply look at a picture of Trudeau's beautiful hair and i instantly forget about my wife.
 
flx2015 said:
it is fine. whenever i miss my wife, i simply look at a picture of Trudeau's beautiful hair and i instantly forget about my wife.

hahaha wow i just hope trudeau read this and usay kuch sharam ayai
 
flx2015 said:
it is fine. whenever i miss my wife, i simply look at a picture of Trudeau's beautiful hair and i instantly forget about my wife.

Heh... but I have to say blaming Trudeau for this is inaccurate. The former government reduced spending on immigration and closed down a bunch of overseas VO's.
 
Aquakitty said:
Heh... but I have to say blaming Trudeau for this is inaccurate. The former government reduced spending on immigration and closed down a bunch of overseas VO's.

fair enough. i don't blame trudeau's government for what the conservatives did to immigration, but i do blame him for not making immigration one of his top priorities.

fine, i get that this may be a complex problem and that it may take them time to speed things up, but why not offer us an immediate solution in the mean time by making it easier for our spouses to get a "spousal TRV" while their PR applications are being processed? are visa-exempt travellers denied entry if their spouses live in Canada? if not, then i want the same privilege extended to my wife.

the emotional toll this can take on a couple is indescribable. it's cruel and inhumane to keep a husband and wife separated for as long as they do. i even recall one member talking about committing suicide because they'd been in process for nearly 2 years. i tried to reach out to them over PM and talk them out of it. i don't know if i was successful.
 
flx2015 said:
fair enough. i don't blame trudeau's government for what the conservatives did to immigration, but i do blame him for not making immigration one of his top priorities.

fine, i get that this may be a complex problem and that it may take them time to speed things up, but why not offer is an immediate solution in the mean time by making it easier for our spouses to get a "spousal TRV" while their PR applications are being processed? are visa-exempt travellers denied entry if their spouses live in Canada? if not, then i want the same privilege extended to my wife.


i think the US has spouse visa to let the spouses come and wait here. i dont know why we dont have...

cant we start a class action? i feel our charter rights have been breached. due to our spouses are from different country of origin; we have to tolerate intolerable suffers.. lol.. i am joking. i am not a constitutional lawyer.. doubt any contigency lawyers out there would take our case to litigate the federal gov.. lol.
 
flx2015 said:
fair enough. i don't blame trudeau's government for what the conservatives did to immigration, but i do blame him for not making immigration one of his top priorities.

fine, i get that this may be a complex problem and that it may take them time to speed things up, but why not offer us an immediate solution in the mean time by making it easier for our spouses to get a "spousal TRV" while their PR applications are being processed? are visa-exempt travellers denied entry if their spouses live in Canada? if not, then i want the same privilege extended to my wife.

i recall one member talking about committing suicide because they'd been in process for nearly 2 years. i tried to reach out to them over PM and talk them out of it. i don't know if i was successful.

even if not TRV issue a simple visa like UK within 2 months. I don't understand why they take 40 days for sponsorship approval UK give you visa within 60 days
 
naveedali said:
even if not TRV issue a simple visa like UK within 2 months. I don't understand why they take 40 days for sponsorship approval UK give you visa within 60 days

the current immigration system is a mess due to the harper's budget cuts. trudeau did promise to add more budget, so maybe they'll get there some day. it is a complex issue, so yeah i can understand why they're unable to produce immediate results.

the concept of spousal TRVs on the other hand is not complex; this is a realistic (albeit temporary) solution that they could implement immediately if they so desired... but it seems that they won't budge. is that also harper's fault?
 
flx2015 said:
the current immigration system is a mess due to the harper's budget cuts. trudeau did promise to add more budget, so maybe they'll get there some day. it is a complex issue, so yeah i can understand why they're unable to produce immediate results.

the concept of spousal TRVs on the other hand is not complex; this is a realistic (albeit temporary) solution that they could implement immediately if they so desired... but it seems that they won't budge. is that also harper's fault?

He talked about reuniting families to gain immigrants votes.
 
naveedali said:
He talked about reuniting families to gain immigrants votes.

that's totally possible, but maybe it's too early to say. only time will tell whether trudeau will keep his promise of increasing the immigration budget.

check out this site that's keeping track of all his election promises: https://www.trudeaumetre.ca/
 
flx2015 said:
fair enough. i don't blame trudeau's government for what the conservatives did to immigration, but i do blame him for not making immigration one of his top priorities.

fine, i get that this may be a complex problem and that it may take them time to speed things up, but why not offer us an immediate solution in the mean time by making it easier for our spouses to get a "spousal TRV" while their PR applications are being processed? are visa-exempt travellers denied entry if their spouses live in Canada? if not, then i want the same privilege extended to my wife.

the emotional toll this can take on a couple is indescribable. it's cruel and inhumane to keep a husband and wife separated for as long as they do. i even recall one member talking about committing suicide because they'd been in process for nearly 2 years. i tried to reach out to them over PM and talk them out of it. i don't know if i was successful.

Visa exempt travellers aren't exactly guaranteed entry into Canada either. If the border officer feels the applicant is not planning on staying temporarily, they can still be refused. I've seen people from the US be refused because they brought large amount of luggage, not have a job or home to go back to, returning to Canada so quickly after leaving, etc that caused them to be turned away. People can still apply for a TRV for the spouse to visit them while the PR processing is underway (forget about the BS that some here say about how the applicant needs to be "rich" or that its "99% refusal"). That's what my wife did, she got a 5 year multiple entry visa, but we kind of regret it since she got passport request just after she bought the plane tickets, so she had to cut her visit to me short.

Also you can't ask for the same privilege to enter Canada just like visa exempt nationals have, as there is a clear reason why these countries are not visa exempt: high historical rates of overstays and visa violations. Don't blame the government, blame the Pakistan authorities for their unreliable and shoddy documentation, as well as the bad apples that keep violating the visa conditions.

We really need to stop with this "I'm Canadian, therefore my spouse should be entitled to everything, government should be doing everything for us" mentality. Everyone has to prove their marriage is genuine, prove their visitation is temporary, just like everyone else. Even Americans still have to prove they are a genuine visitor before entry, and even they still have to prove marriage is genuine, just like Pakistanis have to. Everyone has to follow the rules, and because certain countries don't follow the rules, they get slapped with longer processing times and higher refusal rates.

It sucks to wait, but we can't fault the government entirely. A large majority of the fault rests with the other countries.
 
mikeymyke said:
We really need to stop with this "I'm Canadian, therefore my spouse should be entitled to everything, government should be doing everything for us" mentality.

my mentality is that "i'm human, therefore my spouse and i are entitled to be together".

i don't have an issue with couples having to prove their marriage is geniune, as long as i don't see genuine couples getting rejected or being made to run through the gauntlet... except that it's not uncommon for genuine couples to be rejected. you see, wait times alone aren't the issue. it's the uncertainty that makes the wait difficult.

mikeymyke said:
Everyone has to follow the rules, and because certain countries don't follow the rules, they get slapped with longer processing times and higher refusal rates.

i'll put an end to this. give me a couple of years and you'll see my name on a ballot card. i'll show everyone that it's possible to give immigrants equal rights without opening the door to visa abuse.