Canada Family sponsorship - Bizare logic!

[HamiltonApplicant]

Hello all,

Today I visited the CIC website to find out as to how to sponsor a close relative(Such as parents, siblings, etc). I find the eligibility criteria described in rather bizarre manner. I am not sure whether what written is wrong or I understand it wrong. Basically, this is my understanding: You cannot sponsor a close relative unless he/she an underage orphan!
It give two options:
Option 1. Orphaned close relatives(I do not have any orphaned close relative, so I don't care)
Option 2 . Other relatives(This is what I am interested in)
You can sponsor one relative, if meet the all following conditions among others:

• you don't have a close living relative you could sponsor instead. (I have close living relatives, this is a disqualification!)
• You don't have close relative who is a citizen, PRC, etc(This qualifies in my close relative)

The website basically says, you can sponsor an orphaned close relative or some random relative! Experienced members, please help me understand this and provide me some clarity.

I would rather expect three options clearly stated

• Option 1. Orphaned close relative
• Option 2. Close relative who is not an orphan
• Option 3. Relative who is not close to the applicant

Link and and relevant text below:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/sponsor/relatives-apply-who.asp

Relevant text

Option 1: orphaned close relatives
You can sponsor close relatives only if they meet all conditions. This means they must be:

• orphaned
• under 18
• without a:
  • spouse
  • conjugal partner
  • common-law partner
• related to you by blood or adoption, such as:
  • brothers or sisters
  • nephews or nieces
  • grandchildren

Option 2: other relative
You may sponsor one relative, related by blood or adoption, of any age if you meet all of the conditions, including:

• you don't have a living relative you could sponsor instead, such as a:
  • spouse
  • common-law partner
  • conjugal partner
  • son or daughter
  • parent
  • grandparent
  • brother or sister
  • uncle or aunt
  • nephew or niece
• you don’t have any of the above-named relatives who is:
  • a Canadian citizen
  • a permanent resident
  • registered Indian under the Indian Act

If the relative you want to sponsor has a spouse, partner, or dependent children who will come with them to Canada you must include them on the same sponsorship application.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Hello all,

Today I visited the CIC website to find out as to how to sponsor a close relative(Such as parents, siblings, etc). I find the eligibility criteria described in rather bizarre manner. I am not sure whether what written is wrong or I understand it wrong. Basically, this is my understanding: You cannot sponsor a close relative unless he/she an underage orphan!
It give two options:
Option 1. Orphaned close relatives(I do not have any orphaned close relative, so I don't care)
Option 2 . Other relatives(This is what I am interested in)
You can sponsor one relative, if meet the all following conditions among others:

• you don't have a close living relative you could sponsor instead. (I have close living relatives, this is a disqualification!)
• You don't have close relative who is a citizen, PRC, etc(This qualifies in my close relative)

The website basically says, you can sponsor an orphaned close relative or some random relative! Experienced members, please help me understand this and provide me some clarity.

I would rather expect three options clearly stated

• Option 1. Orphaned close relative
• Option 2. Close relative who is not an orphan
• Option 3. Relative who is not close to the applicant

Hi

You can't just sponsor a "close relative". Canada only allows specific family members to be sponsored.

You can sponsor your spouse/common-law partner and dependent children.

If you meet the income requirement, you can apply for the parent/grandparent sponsorship lottery.

There is no sibling sponsorship.

Some family members in specific situations, such as orphaned minor siblings/nieces/nephews, can be sponsored.

If the Canadian citizen/PR is completely alone and has no spouse/children/parents/Canadian family, they can sponsor one relative.

 

[scylla]

You're overcomplicating things. Parent and sibling sponsorship are very different.

There are certain specific requirements for sponsoring a parent (namely income and being selected through the lottery). Sponsoring a sibling isn't possible unless that sibling is a minor and can be included in the parent sponsorship application, unless the sibling is 18 or under and an orphan - or unless other very specific conditions are met and the sponsor is effectively alone in Canada and both parents are deceased.

Would be easier if you simply told us who you wish to sponsor and what family members you already have in Canada and whether your parents are still both alive. We'll be able to tell you pretty quickly if what you want is possible.

 

[HamiltonApplicant]

Hi

You can't just sponsor a "close relative". Canada only allows specific family members to be sponsored.

You can sponsor your spouse/common-law partner and dependent children.

If you meet the income requirement, you can apply for the parent/grandparent sponsorship lottery.

There is no sibling sponsorship.

Some family members in specific situations, such as orphaned minor siblings/nieces/nephews, can be sponsored.

If the Canadian citizen/PR is completely alone and has no spouse/children/parents/Canadian family, they can sponsor one relative.

Thank you very much! Following your lead, I found the parents/grand parents lottery link. Unfortunately, this years window is over, will have to wait till next year.

You're overcomplicating things. Parent and sibling sponsorship are very different.

There are certain specific requirements for sponsoring a parent (namely income and being selected through the lottery). Sponsoring a sibling isn't possible unless that sibling is a minor and can be included in the parent sponsorship application, unless the sibling is 18 or under and an orphan - or unless other very specific conditions are met and the sponsor is effectively alone in Canada and both parents are deceased.

Would be easier if you simply told us who you wish to sponsor and what family members you already have in Canada and whether your parents are still both alive. We'll be able to tell you pretty quickly if what you want is possible.

We are an old fashioned family of 3. My immediate concern is to bring a widowed parent who is living alone in our home country. Looks like one and the only option is the lottery scheme....
<---------------------------------------------End of my particular concern---------------------------------->
Here's the theoretical issue:
If a lonely Canadian whose non Canadian parents are alive abroad, he/she'll have to wait for the lottery window to open and and keep his/her fingers crossed!

If there is another lonely Canadian whose parents are not alive, he/she can sponsor a random relative to mitigate his/her loneliness without having to roll the dice!

 

[scylla]

Yes - to sponsor a widowed parent, you will have to wait until the lottery opens up again next year. Make sure you meet the minimum income requirements to apply.

 

[gejash]

To the person wanting to sponsor a lonely widowed parent, try the Humanitarian & Compassionate grounds. Given that the widowed parent has no one to look after in the country where he/she is currently residing and that the person here can support the parent financially then it should work in your favour. All the best.

 

[HamiltonApplicant]

Yes - to sponsor a widowed parent, you will have to wait until the lottery opens up again next year. Make sure you meet the minimum income requirements to apply.

Thanks! I will start my research soon...

To the person wanting to sponsor a lonely widowed parent, try the Humanitarian & Compassionate grounds. Given that the widowed parent has no one to look after in the country where he/she is currently residing and that the person here can support the parent financially then it should work in your favour. All the best.

Thank you for this suggestion, I did not know such provisions exist...

 

[canvis2006]

perhaps create non-citizenship threads in the family sponsorship section of the forums..........

 

[HamiltonApplicant]

Another piece of bizarre logic reported by another forum member, emphasis is mine
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/CIT0003ETOC.asp#CIT0003E4
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Two (2) pieces of the child’s personal identification
Both pieces of identification should show your child’s name and date of birth, one of which must have a photo on it.

Examples include:

• school record (My take: No photo on this)
  
• health insurance card (My take: No photo on this in case the card holder is a minor!)

If there is information on both sides of your child’s personal identification documents, provide a photocopy of both sides.

For a child under school age, identification such as:

• a passport page containing his or her photo and personal details, or
• a hospital or immunization record, may be provided

Format: Clear and legible photocopy
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[cprak0]

Thank you very much! Following your lead, I found the parents/grand parents lottery link. Unfortunately, this years window is over, will have to wait till next year.



We are an old fashioned family of 3. My immediate concern is to bring a widowed parent who is living alone in our home country. Looks like one and the only option is the lottery scheme....
<---------------------------------------------End of my particular concern---------------------------------->
Here's the theoretical issue:
If a lonely Canadian whose non Canadian parents are alive abroad, he/she'll have to wait for the lottery window to open and and keep his/her fingers crossed!

If there is another lonely Canadian whose parents are not alive, he/she can sponsor a random relative to mitigate his/her loneliness without having to roll the dice!

Easiest option is to apply for the super visa, a 2 yr multiple entry visa while you have wait for the lottery...

 

[HamiltonApplicant]

Easiest option is to apply for the super visa, a 2 yr multiple entry visa while you have wait for the lottery...

Thanks! One more path to explore! The parent already has a 10 year visitor visa, and is planning to apply for US GC, now I have one more option to weigh in...