Can we apply for Student visa & EE at the same time? Please help. Confused

[Pradhansritam]

Just to add to this thread, fkl's advice was spot on. I applied for a student visa, whilst in the EE pool. I was honest and upfront about being in the EE pool. My student visa was approved in 1 week with no need for further information. Anyone using a lawyer that has advised withdrawing an EE profile on the basis that it reduces the chances of getting a student visa should probably look for a new lawyer.

Hi Seoul train,

Your post is logical and convincing. I have a specific query.....I got an admission from a B-School and I want to join the school this fall.....before getting admit.....I had already applied for express entry visa.....Since, express entry duration are unpredictable, I am applying for student visa .....can I use the same medical examination report for student visa processing which I used for express entry processing?

 

[Resham6$]

. I have applied for student Visa, the decision is pending. I would like to apply for PR under Express entry. I have not mentioned in my SOP about my intentions of applying for PR. Can I apply for the PR? Will it effect the decision for student Visa? Please please reply

 

[RITI]

Thanks Mthornt for your reply. But would it not be difficult for him to show strong ties to his country considering that his immediate family has expressed an intention to immigrate by being in the ee pool.

Hi did your PR application had any effect on your son student visa. We are in the same boat so please advise

 

[Jach001]

. I have applied for student Visa, the decision is pending. I would like to apply for PR under Express entry. I have not mentioned in my SOP about my intentions of applying for PR. Can I apply for the PR? Will it effect the decision for student Visa? Please please reply

From experience, I would say don't apply for both at the same time. I understand "dual intent" is allowed by the IRCC, but it did affect my student visa application indirectly until I pulled out of the EE and then I got the student visa. Hope this helps.

 

[UGbest]

My study permit to Canada was denied, can apply for Express Entry or PNP programs.Please I need answers.I want to write IELTS.

 

[rish6]

Hi,

I am asking this question for my cousin.

He has got admission for a PG Diploma course in Canada and is also eligible for FSW. He is planning to apply for Student visa next week.At the same time can he apply for Express entry or is it better to apply for Student visa first and then after reaching Canada can he apply Express Entry.

Experts,what will be the impact. Can you please give your thoughts on it.

Thanks,
Brenna

I have the same qiery about PNP and SP. See you can apply for both, but inSP you have to mention that you have applied for PR as well and if during your studies PR is refused, you wil continue to follow the laws of SP, which is, study and go back (and show ties with the home country). You can definitely apply for WP after SP but the core principle of SP has nothing to do with the core principle of EE. EE is for immigration , doesnot matter where u r. Working, studying, etc etc. SP is for study and return. So you can do PNP, SP, EE, MARRIAGE everything at once, but you hve to follow core principle of each application. Lets say you applied fpr spousal visa for exmaple for open work permit and you also have EE in the pool, that is also fine. I would say connect with Mark Holthe Immigration on youtube and get facts. You will get random views here just like everyone else includign me. I am right on the core rpinciple part. SP core principle is to study and hsow proof of return, has nothing todo wwith EE.

 

[klguy]

There is something existent called "dual intent" as per CIC's official guideline. Most people thinking you cannot apply for both (temp residence like work / study permit as well as PR) are plain wrong and should research dual intent.

In simple words, CIC does not care whether you permanently live in Canada or not eventually. When applying for study permit, they just want to evaluate that IF YOU DO NOT GET PERMANENT status eventually, ARE YOU LIKELY TO OVERSTAY ILLEGALLY OR NOT. This can be shown by strong ties to home country (not just owning property / business is the only way, which most people do not have) but rather having a established life / job with a respectable income in the same profession is a good and most common factor.

That being said, when you apply for study permit, having a PR application in process or not, you would be evaluated at the same grounds as another person with only study permit application. I believe i have read this formally several times in CIC's official description and should show up when you google DUAL INTENT.

UPADTE: So in summary if there was any confusion - there is no harm in applying for both study permit and PR at the same time, period.

Thanks for sharing. I'm currently waiting for my PR (CEC), and about to apply for SP in order to register for university.

Do I have to update anything in my PR application? Any legitimate resources / guides would be helpful.

 

[miss_yeyah]

Hi, I have an ongoing Express Entry PNP Outland application. I was supposed to apply for student visa last 2019 but the provincial nomination came in first but with the pandemic, our application has been stucked for more than a year already. I am planning now to apply for student visa in the the same province where I received nomination. Will applying for a student visa impact our pr application? And in the event that my student visa got approved and soon after, my pr application got approved too, can I go to Canada holding 2 visas (PR and Student) on my passport?

 

[Gooogly]

Hi, I have an ongoing Express Entry PNP Outland application. I was supposed to apply for student visa last 2019 but the provincial nomination came in first but with the pandemic, our application has been stucked for more than a year already. I am planning now to apply for student visa in the the same province where I received nomination. Will applying for a student visa impact our pr application? And in the event that my student visa got approved and soon after, my pr application got approved too, can I go to Canada holding 2 visas (PR and Student) on my passport?

Afaik no problem in applying for student visa along with pr application, if you get pr before student visa you'll be considered a permanent resident and no need of any visa, that is a technical issue which you don't have to worry about.

 

[Gooogly]

My study permit to Canada was denied, can apply for Express Entry or PNP programs.Please I need answers.I want to write IELTS.

Yes go ahead, I think there will be a question when you apply for pr, if you have been denied visa to Canada, answer it truthfully.

 

[DJmaria]

Hi, I have an ongoing Express Entry PNP Outland application. I was supposed to apply for student visa last 2019 but the provincial nomination came in first but with the pandemic, our application has been stucked for more than a year already. I am planning now to apply for student visa in the the same province where I received nomination. Will applying for a student visa impact our pr application? And in the event that my student visa got approved and soon after, my pr application got approved too, can I go to Canada holding 2 visas (PR and Student) on my passport?

Hi,

I am also in the same situation almost. My study visa is approved and stamped in the passport. at the same time, I got invitation from province for PNP. So, if I create express entry profile and apply for PNP from my home country and travelling to Canada after 2 months before starting my classes, it has any impact on issuance of study permit from Canadian airport as well as my PNP application?


please help me in this matter?

 

[Azeus]

I have Question as well , as i have already created Express entry profile . Now i am applying for student VISA , will it create problem for my Student VISA ?????

Was there any problem?

 

[Azeus]

I agree. I was researching this topic for a while as I wanted to come on Student Visa but was already in EE pool. I've talked to 3 different lawyers and they all suggested that there is a high risk that I will be refused for the Student Visa as it will be obvious that I'm lying to them. For a Student Visa you need strong ties to your country and to prove that you will come back home, and having EE profile clearly states the opposite.

Of course, exceptions always exist I suppose.

It also depends on how fast one wants to get to Canada and on the financial resources...

If it were me, I would have done the Studen Visa first and then apply for EE once in Canada. Then there is almost no risk. One is allowed to change his/her mind.

Did you apply for a student visa then? if yes, what was the result?

 

[gokul0989]

Hello, my wife's spousal PR application is in process. Can we apply for student permit at the same time when PR is in process.

 

[mamasvoice]

There is something existent called "dual intent" as per CIC's official guideline. Most people thinking you cannot apply for both (temp residence like work / study permit as well as PR) are plain wrong and should research dual intent.

In simple words, CIC does not care whether you permanently live in Canada or not eventually. When applying for study permit, they just want to evaluate that IF YOU DO NOT GET PERMANENT status eventually, ARE YOU LIKELY TO OVERSTAY ILLEGALLY OR NOT. This can be shown by strong ties to home country (not just owning property / business is the only way, which most people do not have) but rather having a established life / job with a respectable income in the same profession is a good and most common factor.

That being said, when you apply for study permit, having a PR application in process or not, you would be evaluated at the same grounds as another person with only study permit application. I believe i have read this formally several times in CIC's official description and should show up when you google DUAL INTENT.

UPADTE: So in summary if there was any confusion - there is no harm in applying for both study permit and PR at the same time, period.

Hi, @fkl . Thank you for this enlightening reply!

Could you please shed some light on my situation? My husband and I (me being the principal applicant since I have an uncle in Canada) have applied under the Federal Self-Employed Stream last December 2020. We are both artists. I have only received a temporary UCI last January of this year and nothing more from IRCC. And now that the FSE stream's processing time has increased to 36 from 24 months, we are seriously considering trying for a Student Permit.

We are based in the Philippines where we can apply under the Student Direct Stream, and processing is only about 20 days. I am actually on the verge of getting accepted at Centennial College. I have contacted them and sent over my initial educational documents. They have replied with an application form and are asking for additional docs. We also plan to apply for an OWP for my husband at the same time so he and our kids can all go with me.

My question is: Say my family and I are already in Canada under my study permit. Is there a chance that our FSE application will still be processed, and then approved, and we will become permanent residents while we are there?