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Can MD/MDS residency be counted as foreign work experience?

Raj Singhania

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Feb 6, 2020
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Hi ,
please solve this one query that has been bugging me a lot.
Is it possible to show your Masters in medicine as foreign work experience under the FSW program?
I had the same job responsibilities( and more) as a regular doctor during my studies and I was paid for 3 years.
 

Kasey00

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Nov 2, 2019
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Hi ,
please solve this one query that has been bugging me a lot.
Is it possible to show your Masters in chatrandom medicine as foreign work experience under the FSW program?
I had the same job responsibilities( and more) as a regular doctor during my studies and I was paid for 3 years nordvpn .
Yes you can either get the grant from the commissioner. Getting the pass is not the hard part.
 

Raj Singhania

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Feb 6, 2020
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I'm sorry that wasn't clear. I am talking about the Canadian Federal Skilled worker program. Can my residency be counted as work experience?
 

canuck78

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Jun 18, 2017
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If you want to continue being a physician I would really look into how difficult it may be to get licensed in Canada. Many IMGs never get relicensed.
 

Raj Singhania

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Feb 6, 2020
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yes i understand that...it was a hard decision ...but i have already have started the process...But i need to clarify this doubt coz a lot is hanging on this
 

canuck78

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yes i understand that...it was a hard decision ...but i have already have started the process...But i need to clarify this doubt coz a lot is hanging on this
Yes the time typically counts. With a 3 year residency I assume you are not a GP. As long as you have plans to pursue another career field if you can’t redo your residency then Canada is a good place to immigrate. Many IMGs retrain in another medical field like nursing, radiation/ultrasound techs, etc. You have just started so want to warn you that there are other countries who need MDs and make it much easier to actually continue practicing medicine. In some specialties the chances are so low. What type of specialist are you?
 

Raj Singhania

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Feb 6, 2020
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Internal medicine. I know all of that. My question is whether I would be able to consider my residency as work experience??
 

canuck78

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Jun 18, 2017
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Internal medicine. I know all of that. My question is whether I would be able to consider my residency as work experience??
As I said, you should be. Many IMGs are actually not aware about how hard it will be and arrive and complain that Canada has misled them after they have repeatedly refused a residency spot. If a IMG still wants to practice I encourage all IMGs to try to consider immigration to countries that actually make it pretty easy to get licensed. If you are so early in the process not sure why you wouldn’t consider other countries. Assume you are not bilingual in English and French. Then your chances become a bit better since many unmatched residencies, especially specialities, are in Quebec.
 

Raj Singhania

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Feb 6, 2020
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well i understand that. I have my personal reasons due to which it's not a choice but a definite need to immigrate to Canada. That's why the question. Also, can i show part time experience during my studies as work experience?
 

smilekajal

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Sep 16, 2013
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well i understand that. I have my personal reasons due to which it's not a choice but a definite need to immigrate to Canada. That's why the question. Also, can i show part time experience during my studies as work experience?
Hi. I am also applying for PR in canada. I ve already completed my residency in June 2020. I ll be applying as specialist physician (NOC 3111). I know that residency ll be counted as work experience because it was paid and full time work with same job specifications as that of a specialist physician. I have one doubt though. There is a question in PR application - 'Date when you first became qualified to practise in this occupation'. Should it be 2017 (when I started my residency) or should it be 2020 ? If I write 2020 (which seems more accurate), are you sure the residency work experience will be counted?
 

canuck78

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Hi. I am also applying for PR in canada. I ve already completed my residency in June 2020. I ll be applying as specialist physician (NOC 3111). I know that residency ll be counted as work experience because it was paid and full time work with same job specifications as that of a specialist physician. I have one doubt though. There is a question in PR application - 'Date when you first became qualified to practise in this occupation'. Should it be 2017 (when I started my residency) or should it be 2020 ? If I write 2020 (which seems more accurate), are you sure the residency work experience will be counted?
Yes residency work should count. Would research how many residency spots were leftover after Canadians matched residencies and whether specialists are able to find jobs in Canada in your field if you are even considering trying to be a physician in Canada. For some specialties zero spots will be available every year. If moving to Canada and having not completed a residency in the US, UK, Ireland or South Africa would only move to Canada if you'll be happy not practicing medicine.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-nearly-one-in-five-new-specialist-doctors-cant-find-a-job-after/
 

smilekajal

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Sep 16, 2013
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Yes residency work should count. Would research how many residency spots were leftover after Canadians matched residencies and whether specialists are able to find jobs in Canada in your field if you are even considering trying to be a physician in Canada. For some specialties zero spots will be available every year. If moving to Canada and having not completed a residency in the US, UK, Ireland or South Africa would only move to Canada if you'll be happy not practicing medicine.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-nearly-one-in-five-new-specialist-doctors-cant-find-a-job-after/
Thankyou for replying. So shall I write 2020 in that column in IRCC application?
 

akhilt_02

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Jun 6, 2021
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Hi ,
please solve this one query that has been bugging me a lot.
Is it possible to show your Masters in medicine as foreign work experience under the FSW program?
I had the same job responsibilities( and more) as a regular doctor during my studies and I was paid for 3 years.
Hi , I am going through the same issues regarding my PR application process. I wish to get ECA done for my MBBS and get my work experience for MD...I had a few questions.
I am not sure if the residency duration would suffice as work experience and I would get points for tht.. it is not mentioned anywhere
Is it possible to msg you or speak with you regarding it.
I would appreciate any help you can provide me.
 

drajay

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Oct 8, 2015
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Hi akhilt_02,
Here is the NOC profile for 3111 from the official National Occupational Classification database: https://noc.esdc.gc.ca/Structure/NocProfile?objectid=NOIYGQtJGl1yAyxcroMuKd/FPsH2YbxP/qix0WP2fBXqKRr/1a53CN42GxAeb+8i


3111 – Specialist physicians
Specialists in clinical medicine diagnose and treat diseases and physiological or psychiatric disorders and act as consultants to other physicians. Specialists in laboratory medicine study the nature, cause and development of diseases in humans. Specialists in surgery perform and supervise surgical procedures. Specialists in clinical medicine usually work in private practice or in a hospital while those in laboratory medicine and in surgery usually work in hospitals. Residents in training to become specialist physicians are included in this unit group.


Your CRRI during MBBS along with your postgraduate training is considered as work experience. Just be sure to get appropriate letters from your department/medical school. As you may already know, this should contain the job title, term, duties, work hours, and salary, and also NOC code if possible,
 

peegee100

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Oct 10, 2016
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True.... CRRi/Rresidency training is considered as work experience by the FED Government.. but NOT by the Royal College... if a Specialist physician is applying for eligibility to challenge the Royal college exams, and the training is NOT recognised ie is a part of jurisdiction-recognised training ( there is list of countries including, but not limited to UK, Singapore, SA etc), be prepared to slog it out... each province has a specific and low quota for IMGs in each specialty.... and the competition can be very intense...