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Can Justin Trudeau really move our file quicker processing ?

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he all friends
we already know that Justin Trudeau is Canadian new PM
what you guys think: our file will process firs now
 
Hope they will not only focus on those war refugees and think that we are still here waiting. On their platform they are to expand and accept 25000 refugees and if that happens cic may possibly get busy too.
 
In a word, no... The earliest you could expect any change is when the new budget is proposed next year with funding and priorities switched along with it. Our applications will be processed under existing rules and existing policies, which I certainly think is fair as I don't want rules changed mid-stream.

BTW, FWIW, I think immigration policies will remarkably improve under the new government. I congratulate Trudeau on winning.
 
Bincanada said:
In a word, no... The earliest you could expect any change is when the new budget is proposed next year with funding and priorities switched along with it. Our applications will be processed under existing rules and existing policies, which I certainly think is fair as I don't want rules changed mid-stream.

BTW, FWIW, I think immigration policies will remarkably improve under the new government. I congratulate Trudeau on winning.
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100% support that...."I think immigration policies will remarkably improve under the new government."
 
Govender said:
100% support that...."I think immigration policies will remarkably improve under the new government."
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improve for who though? improve for the government? the citizens? or the actual immigrants?

improvement for the government means less liabilities meaning less refugees and more requirements for sponsoring family

improvement for the citizens means better selection for their interest meaning the lower paid for immigrants the better for the citizens

improvement for the actual immigrants mean less requirements to immigrate at faster rates which will lead to more competition and more applications slowing that the process down unless more resources are assigned costing tax dollars.


I'm not sure how you can improve it in a way that the 3 parties can benefit from it.

Also, Canada implemented visas for the entire world except one country... the US. If you don't have a US passport, you require a visa or an electronic permit to enter Canada.
 
i am little positive compare to harper govt. secondly everybody thinking about war torn
countries people to bring here but do u know thousands of them are opportunistic rather than
need refuge in safe place. they dont even want to live in country like hungary croatia serbia
slovenia poland or others those countries r much safer than their countries.they want to go
in GERMANY NORWAY SWEDEN UK FINLAND where so many benefits for refugee and lots of
job employments child benefits unemployment fund. low interest rate business support for
newcomers. this is not my view ,its view of eruopean people.sorry who knows there r
no terrorist among of those 1 millions. they just open door without checking nothing another
side when we go to airport just imagine what happen with us. sorry guys if someone feel bad.
 
SpoonRaccoon said:
improve for who though? improve for the government? the citizens? or the actual immigrants?

improvement for the government means less liabilities meaning less refugees and more requirements for sponsoring family

improvement for the citizens means better selection for their interest meaning the lower paid for immigrants the better for the citizens

improvement for the actual immigrants mean less requirements to immigrate at faster rates which will lead to more competition and more applications slowing that the process down unless more resources are assigned costing tax dollars.


I'm not sure how you can improve it in a way that the 3 parties can benefit from it.

Also, Canada implemented visas for the entire world except one country... the US. If you don't have a US passport, you require a visa or an electronic permit to enter Canada.
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All I can say is that a different party will absolutely have different priorities, and the Liberal party has always been the most immigrant friendly at the federal level. You will notice a shift toward opening family class immigration again (the concept of only issuing Super VISA's with no health care is absurd, and something that needs change). You will see a more open refugee class program. You will notice a return to individualized applications and away from the lottery-type system Fast-Track has become. And you'll see more respect for provinces under the Liberals, and probably better Provincial Nomination Program app opportunities.

Remember, it was the last Liberal gov't under Chretien that helped get a lot of these PNP programs started and give provinces more say in immigration so there's more opportunity for people to move to Canada and more local government voice. Liberals are almost always more open and more free flowing.

I look forward to positive changes. But they won't matter, since my app is near the end anyway.
 
delta304 said:
i am little positive compare to harper govt. secondly everybody thinking about war torn
countries people to bring here but do u know thousands of them are opportunistic rather than
need refuge in safe place. they dont even want to live in country like hungary croatia serbia
slovenia poland or others those countries r much safer than their countries.they want to go
in GERMANY NORWAY SWEDEN UK FINLAND where so many benefits for refugee and lots of
job employments child benefits unemployment fund. low interest rate business support for
newcomers. this is not my view ,its view of eruopean people.sorry who knows there r
no terrorist among of those 1 millions. they just open door without checking nothing another
side when we go to airport just imagine what happen with us. sorry guys if someone feel bad.
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Everyone has the right to wish for a better life. If some country is accepting refugees , i am sure they have rules in place to handle situations like terrorists sneaking in or anything related to this. No one wishes to be born in these war torn countries. If someone is giving them better life why not take it. Note no human life is lesser or greater valuebale than one another. Everyone has the right to ask for a better life. Me being a demoratic country Citizen , i know how the life is when you are free of worries like war , terrorists etc.
 
I wish they just change the Province nomination program requirements to some occupations. IMHO Those regulations at some point will need to be less stricter. They can use WES or some of the other bodies to get an assessment e.g 1111 (Financial Auditors & Accountant) and not asking for a license straight away.

Another point to consider is that if they want people under this NOC and having a license at the time of application , they will need to habilitate test center to take the remaining subjects needed. Or at least be more flexible getting registration and later on while in Canada finish the remaining to get fully certification.

I guess there are many people who got rejected applying to some of the Province this 2015.

Cheers guys
 
I wish Justin will make less error and more quicker processing
Then I m happy

I applied 23 sep 2014
IP since 9 October
I hope Cic will work first now
 
andy000 said:
I wish they just change the Province nomination program requirements to some occupations. IMHO Those regulations at some point will need to be less stricter. They can use WES or some of the other bodies to get an assessment e.g 1111 (Financial Auditors & Accountant) and not asking for a license straight away.

Another point to consider is that if they want people under this NOC and having a license at the time of application , they will need to habilitate test center to take the remaining subjects needed. Or at least be more flexible getting registration and later on while in Canada finish the remaining to get fully certification.

I guess there are many people who got rejected applying to some of the Province this 2015.

Cheers guys
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I'm not an immigration lawyer by any means, but I think the PNP programs are setup to where they give the provinces most of the power when making those decisions. I don't think a Trudeau government can change PNP programs in this fashion, you would be hoping for BC (or whatever province you applied to) would relax job requirements.

Where I think there is hope is that the federal programs/streams without PNP nomination become fairer and less focused on job titles.

I remember under the Chretien-Martin programs, there wasn't a limited list of jobs, the federal skilled worker queue was largely independent. As long as you generally had some education and work experience in your home country that was more than McDonalds, some level of technical work, you could apply and be graded individually.

It is the Conservatives that began these limitations at the federal level. Now that they are gone, I have good hopes for change. But it largely wouldn't affect PNP applicants as the provinces make those decisions.
 
Hamid khan said:
I wish Justin will make less error and more quicker processing
Then I m happy

I applied 23 sep 2014
IP since 9 October
I hope Cic will work first now
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I have to be honest, even though I supported the change (even though I can't vote, and my support means nothing) and like that Trudeau is taking power, I doubt the CIC can achieve faster immigration processing. It is a bureaucratic agency with a world of operations onto its own. They will set directives from the top, but to be honest if the directives are to be more fair, give more people a chance, you might find that wait times remain the same or even increase some.

Remember, this Conservative government only sped up some applications by throwing away previous applications unfairly and making it harder to apply in the first place. They didn't fundamentally fix any wait issues, they just moved a problem around and pushed it onto different people. Fast Track sounds nice, until you realize it a lottery, it isn't a system of equal review.

Any more fair, equal system that gives people a fair review will not operate fastly. Although I do hope they can review protocols to see where they can streamline application processing.

I've never understood why immigration has to be this laborious process that takes years in the first place. Provided a language and medical and criminal check/tests, immigration officers should be stamping and processing people with ease. Immigration never should have become this huge paperwork process to begin with. Officers shouldn't be tasked with checking job titles and the million other nonsensical things they put on these applications streams. In all honesty, once you're a permanent Canadian resident, what your previous job title was is meaningless. You have open access to the job market in Canada and can do whatever you want. The fact they required a certain level of experience really means nothing other than unnecessary paperwork processing during the app filing. It is a headache for the officers as much as it is for the applicant.

I don't know the solutions to these issues, I just hope my app is processed ASAP! I love Canada, and can't wait to be a PR. :)
 
I do share some of the concerns here. I also think that the inflow of refugees may increase the processing times for our applications.

I was quite disappointed to see that most of the electoral discussion flowed around the immigration of refugees, and their families, while not considering that citizens of this countries who are going though different kinds of hardships. Depending on what country your spouse is from, you could potentially have to wait 4+ years so be reunited with you partner. That to me is also unfair.

The only way that so many applications could be processed is either with greater resources (which as mentioned here will not happen until the next fiscal budget), or by skipping preliminary background checks for the refugees. Thus, this inflow very well may slow down everyone else's applications that are in process.
 
jcallahan said:
I do share some of the concerns here. I also think that the inflow of refugees may increase the processing times for our applications.

I was quite disappointed to see that most of the electoral discussion flowed around the immigration of refugees, and their families, while not considering that citizens of this countries who are going though different kinds of hardships. Depending on what country your spouse is from, you could potentially have to wait 4+ years so be reunited with you partner. That to me is also unfair.

The only way that so many applications could be processed is either with greater resources (which as mentioned here will not happen until the next fiscal budget), or by skipping preliminary background checks for the refugees. Thus, this inflow very well may slow down everyone else's applications that are in process.
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I'm not an immigration lawyer as I repeated before, but I don't think the refugee stream is funded the same way as other streams, so if anything I think that means it won't have an affect. But pouring resources in to refugee claims while not funding other priorities does mean our apps certainly won't be speeding up, by any means...
 
there are 250,000 immigrants in Canada every year. each one pays about $1,000 for the PR application. That's about 250M revenue a year to get people in.
Most immigrants are economic or family. Which means no government financial support.

Trudeau said Canada would take 25,000 refugees at the end of the year and not 10,000. The trip here plus financial settlement support is calculated to be at least $4,000 per person. Total cost $100M. I hope the weed he said he'd make legal will pay for this.
 
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