Can Immigration revoke Permanent Residency?

[tugsthebugs]

Hi, Immigration received my file on 29 March 2012.

I came to Canada on 11 March, 2014.

I'm here since almost three months and now my wife is acting so different and threatening me that she will do fraud marriage case on me and kick me out of this country because I read her emails and told her how come your ex boy friend is still your best friend and you still miss talking to him. I told him usually married people don't do that. And now she is threatening me that she don't want to live with me and give me divorce. If she will divorce me will it revoke my Permanent resident status? Does she have power to revoke my Permanent Resident status?

Please help me with this. I am very depressed and going through tough time. One of the lawyer told me still she can do police case on you saying that you tired to hurt/abuse her, and prove marriage of convenience etc and do anything with you because she is Canadian Citizen. Does it really work like this?

P.S. I believe I am not under Conditional Permanent Resident rule as my file was received on March, 29, 2012. And also on my COPR under Condition section it says "NONE"

 

[mikeymyke]

You're not under condition 51, so go ahead and divorce her. The lawyer is wrong because she will have no evidence of abuse. Don't be depressed, just divorce, start dating again, and welcome to Canada. CIC cannot revoke someone's PR unless there was clear fraud or misrepresentation, if you're pre condition 51. Just be warned that if you ever try to sponsor someone from outside Canada, they will see this quick divorce as a potential marriage of convenience on your part, and could make it a bit tough for you.

 

[tugsthebugs]

You're not under condition 51, so go ahead and divorce her. The lawyer is wrong because she will have no evidence of abuse. Don't be depressed, just divorce, start dating again, and welcome to Canada. CIC cannot revoke someone's PR unless there was clear fraud or misrepresentation, if you're pre condition 51. Just be warned that if you ever try to sponsor someone from outside Canada, they will see this quick divorce as a potential marriage of convenience on your part, and could make it a bit tough for you.

Thanks a lot for your answer. I didn't ever abused her or being physical. We had several arguments. And I never used her for getting PR. if she make fake story and fake evidence that I used her for PR then does she have right to revoke my Permanent Residency? I think she is talking to her lawyer nowadays. And she is living in separate room under one roof and keeping her room locked.

 

[mikeymyke]

No that's not what I mean. Whether you used her for getting PR or not doesn't matter. I'm just saying if you ever decide in the future to sponsor someone from outside Canada, CIC will obviously see that you came to Canada as a sponsored spouse, but divorced just a few months later. They will suspect you did a marriage of convenience, and might ask you a few questions, possibly have an interview, might slow things down for you a bit, but it won't be a big deal if you can prove your relationship with your new spouse is genuine. I know this because I've read up on many Canlii.org cases about this.

She won't be able to revoke your PR at all. She has no evidence of abuse, CIC doesn't even care about pre-condition 51 cases any more. Even if she tried to make something up, she will be unsuccessful because CIC doesn't really care about cases before condition 51. Again, stop worrying about this, I'm sorry your marriage is breaking down, but you need to start moving on with your life

 

[tugsthebugs]

No that's not what I mean. Whether you used her for getting PR or not doesn't matter. I'm just saying if you ever decide in the future to sponsor someone from outside Canada, CIC will obviously see that you came to Canada as a sponsored spouse, but divorced just a few months later. They will suspect you did a marriage of convenience, and might ask you a few questions, possibly have an interview, might slow things down for you a bit, but it won't be a big deal if you can prove your relationship with your new spouse is genuine. I know this because I've read up on many Canlii.org cases about this.

She won't be able to revoke your PR at all. She has no evidence of abuse, CIC doesn't even care about pre-condition 51 cases any more. Even if she tried to make something up, she will be unsuccessful because CIC doesn't really care about cases before condition 51. Again, stop worrying about this, I'm sorry your marriage is breaking down, but you need to start moving on with your life and be with someone who loves you.

Thank you so much. You're very helpful. She is two month pregnant with me and saying she is stressing out so much because of our arguments and verbal fights often. She don't want to miscarriage this baby at all and trying her best. She said if she will lose this baby she will end up this marriage and kick me out of this country. Could she do that? And she is saying please leave me alone and go to India for next three months so baby will be of five months, healthy and developed properly inside belly. She is saying I will accept you after three months.
If I go India for three months could she file it as a separation and revoke my PR or stop me entering Canada with the help of Immigration Office?

 

[mikeymyke]

Again, she cannot kick you out of the country, for ANY reason. Doesn't matter if you leave the country for a few months, or how many times she threatens you, you will NOT lose your PR at all. Although to keep your PR, you're supposed to remain in Canada for 2 out of 5 years, so a few months away isn't a problem.

Sorry to ask but do you know for sure she's pregnant by you and not by her ex?

 

[tugsthebugs]

Again, she cannot kick you out of the country, for ANY reason. Doesn't matter if you leave the country for a few months, or how many times she threatens you, you will NOT lose your PR at all. Although to keep your PR, you're supposed to remain in Canada for 2 out of 5 years, so a few months away isn't a problem.

Sorry to ask but do you know for sure she's pregnant by you and not by her ex?

Thanks buddy for help. I'm asking so many question because I am panicking so much and depressed. Hopefully things will be aright. How do you know all these rules? Are you already in Canada?

 

[mikeymyke]

lol, I'm a Canadian citizen and was born in Canada ;D

Those rules are pretty much already well known. Again please don't be depressed, you're in a country with many opportunities. Please just get a divorce and it will make you feel 100x better

 

[tugsthebugs]

lol, I'm a Canadian citizen and was born in Canada ;D

Those rules are pretty much already well known. Again please don't be depressed, you're in a country with many opportunities. Please just get a divorce and it will make you feel 100x better

Thanks bro. Wish I could have friend like you in real life. You are very supportive. May God Bless You for everything you want.

Please don't be sorry about it. Yes I know she is pregnant with me. And it is truth that her ex bf is only her best friend now. I also know she is very good girl but I hurt her very much telling all this things to her family so she is not ready to accept me or continue this marriage. She felt I disgraced her and treated her like whore doing this and she don't even want to see my face for few months because it takes her anger out on me and start hurting in stomach and baby.

 

[tugsthebugs]

lol, I'm a Canadian citizen and was born in Canada ;D

Those rules are pretty much already well known. Again please don't be depressed, you're in a country with many opportunities. Please just get a divorce and it will make you feel 100x better

I also have her email conversation with her ex bf at work before our marriage. I heard having affair at work is illegal in Canada. Do you think she will be in trouble if I will hand over this emails to her management team? I'm not doing anything crazy like this but in case if she threaten me and try to take advantage. I think I can keep it as an option.

 

[rhcohen2014]

I also have her email conversation with her ex bf at work before our marriage. I heard having affair at work is illegal in Canada. Do you think she will be in trouble if I will hand over this emails to her management team? I'm not doing anything crazy like this but in case if she threaten me and try to take advantage. I think I can keep it as an option.

does she work with her ex? if she doesn't work with him, i don't see how "having an affair" is illegal. do you even know it to be true that she actually did "have an affair"? Writing emails and being friends doesn't constitute an affair. if they work together, every company is different, so it would be dependant on what the rules are. It's not illegal, just may be again company policy, which may or may not result in termination. Most likely without any proof, they will most likely consider your accusations to be that of a spiteful/bitter husband who is seeking a divorce. Sending them emails that suggest 2 friends communicating is going to support the fact you are only trying to cause trouble for her. They aren't going to want to get involved in her buiness that does not relate to her doing her job.

Quite honestly, it sounds like all you want to do is hurt her because she still keeps in touch with her ex. what purpose would any of what you are suggesting to do have? Is it really going to make you feel better?? My guess, it's just going to breed more negativity and backlash on you somehow. If she's pregnant with your child, your concern needs to be figuring out how to co-parent that child with her as mature adults, and not continue this tit for tat game to get back at eachother for whatever has happened. that certainly would not be in the best interest of the child, and remember courts take the actions of both parents into consderation when deciding custody cases.

she can not get your pr revoked. she would also need significant proof of anything she's claiming. while i'm sure the actions are hurtful, stooping down to that level is not going to bring anything good into your life.

 

[user828]

I have seen a similar situation 12 years back and the women called the cops after a big fight and said he hit her etc, ( this was pure blatant misuse of simply being a women who can cry foul ) - cops aren't stupid and said they don't see any marks and if she makes stuff up, she will be hold accountable. She started crying near the cops that he married her for visa etc, cop said to get it annulled. The guy consulted his lawyer and was told she can complain to immigration but that doesn't mean they will believe her - they do their own investigation as they know the vengeance can lead to such acts and simply can't get anyone kicked out just coz they are sponsored

I agree with u man, this is really bad - I applaud your restraint and can understand your feelings when you must have seen those emails.

 

[user828]

does she work with her ex? if she doesn't work with him, i don't see how "having an affair" is illegal. do you even know it to be true that she actually did "have an affair"? Writing emails and being friends doesn't constitute an affair. if they work together, every company is different, so it would be dependant on what the rules are. It's not illegal, just may be again company policy, which may or may not result in termination. Most likely without any proof, they will most likely consider your accusations to be that of a spiteful/bitter husband who is seeking a divorce. Sending them emails that suggest 2 friends communicating is going to support the fact you are only trying to cause trouble for her. They aren't going to want to get involved in her buiness that does not relate to her doing her job.

Quite honestly, it sounds like all you want to do is hurt her because she still keeps in touch with her ex. what purpose would any of what you are suggesting to do have? Is it really going to make you feel better?? My guess, it's just going to breed more negativity and backlash on you somehow. If she's pregnant with your child, your concern needs to be figuring out how to co-parent that child with her as mature adults, and not continue this tit for tat game to get back at eachother for whatever has happened. that certainly would not be in the best interest of the child, and remember courts take the actions of both parents into consderation when deciding custody cases.

As per OP - when he tried to reason with her ( keeping in touch wth ex ), she went on to say she doesn't want to live with him and is asking a divorce.
She is pregnant and this needs to be handled very gently

 

[tugsthebugs]

does she work with her ex? if she doesn't work with him, i don't see how "having an affair" is illegal. do you even know it to be true that she actually did "have an affair"? Writing emails and being friends doesn't constitute an affair. if they work together, every company is different, so it would be dependant on what the rules are. It's not illegal, just may be again company policy, which may or may not result in termination. Most likely without any proof, they will most likely consider your accusations to be that of a spiteful/bitter husband who is seeking a divorce. Sending them emails that suggest 2 friends communicating is going to support the fact you are only trying to cause trouble for her. They aren't going to want to get involved in her buiness that does not relate to her doing her job.

Quite honestly, it sounds like all you want to do is hurt her because she still keeps in touch with her ex. what purpose would any of what you are suggesting to do have? Is it really going to make you feel better?? My guess, it's just going to breed more negativity and backlash on you somehow. If she's pregnant with your child, your concern needs to be figuring out how to co-parent that child with her as mature adults, and not continue this tit for tat game to get back at eachother for whatever has happened. that certainly would not be in the best interest of the child, and remember courts take the actions of both parents into consderation when deciding custody cases.

she can not get your pr revoked. she would also need significant proof of anything she's claiming. while i'm sure the actions are hurtful, stooping down to that level is not going to bring anything good into your life.

Her ex bf and she still work on same place.

Sorry If i sound rude saying this. But I said I am not trying to do anything crazy. I am only saying if they treat me like trash then what do shall I do. Im unemployed and she is with her parents and sister in other house since two weeks. They don't even talk to me and threaten me We will call police and kick you out of this country and keep you in jain for 10 years. I'm all alone inside house. They are doing it on purpose. I don't even have anyone to talk to me. I am only talking to wall. I had panic attack. I can't eat anything at all. My health is worsening. Trust me friend I am under such a bad depression. I had trauma. You don't know what kind of game she and her family playing with me. I'm not trying to hurt her. Will you let anyone keep hurting you because you're not saying anything? Trust me it's very tough here now. I think I should go to government for the help.

 

[user828]

I also have her email conversation with her ex bf at work before our marriage. I heard having affair at work is illegal in Canada. Do you think she will be in trouble if I will hand over this emails to her management team? I'm not doing anything crazy like this but in case if she threaten me and try to take advantage. I think I can keep it as an option.

There is no such fixed rule, but clear this outta your mind - complain etc, need to work it out and you are the best judge, coz no one in their right minds utters divorce ( that too being pregnant ), chatting with ex-bf - and only being asked by her HUSBAND.