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naivnaya said:
Thanks so much for the your replies. it really helps a lot to have people who are willing to help and share their knowledge.

So let's say if a person visited another country for a surgery (did not reside there, just for surgery), CIC is possibly able to verify thay they crossed the border if that country, correct?

BTW, the country is not USA.

So let's say you visited another country for surgery (did not reside there, just for surgery) CIC will not care, unless you engaged in criminal activities there or ran into trouble at their border. Even if you had overstayed your visa or visitor period in that 3rd country, that would not make you automatically inadmissible in CIC's eyes.

As scylla points out, being completely truthful and aboveboard with everything is the best policy. Also, misrepresentation by omission is still considered misrepresentation. Misrepresentation by being misinformed, ignorant of the rules, or having followed bad advice from a lawyer is still misrepresentation. Misrepresentation is tricky to deal with, because you are not likely to win an appeal in case of misrepresentation.
 
About this subject i have a questuon too...my husband is turkish,i am greek canadian..i have lived all my life in greece...he came to visit me 2008 for two weeks,he took his visa from tje greek consulate in turkey and he came..but we doesnt have his passport...when we filled the application we wrote he came but we cant prove it...he remembers that his passport was asked by the police and he took newone...anyway can cic find what happened 6years before?is everything computarized?
 
ninakap30 said:
About this subject i have a questuon too...my husband is turkish,i am greek canadian..i have lived all my life in greece...he came to visit me 2008 for two weeks,he took his visa from tje greek consulate in turkey and he came..but we doesnt have his passport...when we filled the application we wrote he came but we cant prove it...he remembers that his passport was asked by the police and he took newone...anyway can cic find what happened 6years before?is everything computarized?

That's what I meant in my former reply that embassy might have problem keeping all information forever. I got visa to Holland in 2002 then I applied visa to Holland again in 2008 with my new passport and I was told by Dutch Embassy staff that Holland had not opened individual tourist visa to Chinese. I told the staff I had been there once in 2002. It was obvious that they didn't keep my former visa information in their computer.
 
screech339 said:
I say yes. There was a case whereby the PR family from UAE obtained Canadian citizenship by fraud by claiming they stayed in Canada when they were in UAE the whole time. CIC was able to get their records from UAE to prove they were not in Canada and do not meet residency rules to qualify, even lost their PR status as they didn't even meet PR RO either.

Wait a second! Do you mean to say that CIC can choose to do background check even on finalized cases? I mean, on people who may have obtained PR or citizenship status years ago and who have successfully integrated themselves into the Canadian society since then?! If that is so, then anyone who has fradulently become a PR/citizen should constantly worry throughout life in Canada and hope not to get caught!

Imagine, in your Canadian daughter's wedding ceremony taking place somewhere in Canada, you are surrounded by Canadian grand children, other children, friends, relatives and suddenly departation folks come in and say in your face that you do not, and never did, belong in Canada.

By the way, does that render Canadian born grandchildren and properties illegal? I guess it does. If the root of a tree is rotten, branches get it eventually.
 
mcgyver said:
Wait a second! Do you mean to say that CIC can choose to do background check even on finalized cases? I mean, on people who may have obtained PR or citizenship status years ago and who have successfully integrated themselves into the Canadian society since then?! If that is so, then anyone who has fradulently become a PR/citizen should constantly worry throughout life in Canada and hope not to get caught!

Imagine, in your Canadian daughter's wedding ceremony taking place somewhere in Canada, you are surrounded by Canadian grand children, other children, friends, relatives and suddenly departation folks come in and say in your face that you do not, and never did, belong in Canada.

By the way, does that render Canadian born grandchildren and properties illegal? I guess it does. If the root of a tree is rotten, branches get it eventually.

absolutely that has happened in the past and can still happen in future.

for example you forged your name and got citizenship on the forged name but somehow later on in the future somebody complained to authorities about your forgery then automatically you are a criminal in the eyes due to forgery and your citizenship stands cancel.

however everything is allowed if your are born in the country and you are citizen by birth and involve in forgery they cannot throw you out ....
 
mcgyver said:
Wait a second! Do you mean to say that CIC can choose to do background check even on finalized cases? I mean, on people who may have obtained PR or citizenship status years ago and who have successfully integrated themselves into the Canadian society since then?! If that is so, then anyone who has fradulently become a PR/citizen should constantly worry throughout life in Canada and hope not to get caught!

Imagine, in your Canadian daughter's wedding ceremony taking place somewhere in Canada, you are surrounded by Canadian grand children, other children, friends, relatives and suddenly departation folks come in and say in your face that you do not, and never did, belong in Canada.

By the way, does that render Canadian born grandchildren and properties illegal? I guess it does. If the root of a tree is rotten, branches get it eventually.

Anyone born in Canada will get Canadian citizenship, other than children of diplomats. However it would be interesting to those who obtained Canadian by descent. They can legally lose their Canadian citizenship if his/her parent obtained naturalized Canadian Citizenship by fraud.
 
screech339 said:
Anyone born in Canada will get Canadian citizenship, other than children of diplomats. However it would be interesting to those who obtained Canadian by descent. They can legally lose their Canadian citizenship if his/her parent obtained naturalized Canadian Citizenship by fraud.

if a child is born in a country then that child is the citizenship of that country regardless of his parents got chitizenship by fraud or not !!
 
C!C said:
if a child is born in a country then that child is the citizenship of that country regardless of his parents got chitizenship by fraud or not !!

Yes, but there are some countries that don't give citizenship by birth.
 
naivnaya said:
Thanks so much for the your replies. it really helps a lot to have people who are willing to help and share their knowledge.

So let's say if a person visited another country for a surgery (did not reside there, just for surgery), CIC is possibly able to verify thay they crossed the border if that country, correct?

BTW, the country is not USA.

I had surgery in Mexico and I put down the 10 days I was in Mexico on my form for CIC... I didn't see the reason to lie. I didn't do any thing illegal. PLUS I have a Mexican entry stamp on my passport and I sent CIC copies of my passport pages to show my Canadian Entry stamps, so they were going to see it anyway. (The Mexican one was right next to the Canadian one) It would have looked suspicious if I covered up one lol
 
As stated by several people....Just be HONEST and make sure you do everything legally that is required and you will not have any problems. You are worrying about too many "What Ifs".

The quick answer is Yes Governments of different nations share information with each other especially when its in matters of immigration issues.