Calculating residency time wrongly? Please help!

[Zagalo]

Hey guys,

I landed in In Canada for the first time as permanent resident on June 22nd 2010 and I left on August 11th 2010, I returned to Canada to settle on September 6th 2011 (391 days out of Canada). I also traveled to the USA for a total of 9 days this year.

I plan to sign and send my Citizenship application on August 20th 2014. So, by the time I sign my application, I have would have been out of Canada for 400 days out of a total of 1522 days (from June 22nd 2010 to August 22 2014). So normally, 1522-400 = 1122 days
THE PROBLEM IS: When I try to simulate and see if I meet the residency requirement using this form:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/citizen/CIT0407E.pdf

Question C says: If the number of days is more than 1460 (4 years), enter 1460 on Line C.

But if I enter 1460 it will be 1460-400=1060 which makes me not eligible!! But I normally would have spent 1122 days in Canada by August 22nd 2014, so eligible!

So please, does anyone has an idea why they oblige us to write1460 instead of 1522 in this case?
Any idea will be highly appreciated!Or is it that i am not eligible yet?

Thanks!

 

[Msafiri]

The 1095 days must be within the 4 years (1460 days) prior to the application date. Any days before this window don't count so if you front loaded your absences you have to make up the days. So you can't have a window from June 22, 2010 to August 22, 2014 as its more than 4 years! It should be from August 22, 2010 to August 22, 2014 and if you don't have 1095 days of physical presence then don't bother applying as you stand a real chance of rejection after an RQ and likely meeting with the CJ which is a long haul process currently more than 3 years from application date!

 

[Munchenxx]

The 1095 days must be within the 4 years (1460 days) prior to the application date. Any days before this window don't count so if you front loaded your absences you have to make up the days. So you can't have a window from June 22, 2010 to August 22, 2014 as its more than 4 years! It should be from August 22, 2010 to August 22, 2014 and if you don't have 1095 days of physical presence then don't bother applying as you stand a real chance of rejection after an RQ and likely meeting with the CJ which is a long haul process currently more than 3 years from application date!

Exactly!

 

[JTM]

You have to be physically present in Canada for 1095 days from the day you sign your application. So the counting starts from your signing date and goes back 4 years. Within this period you have to be present for 3 years or 1095 days.

My advice is that you should accumulate the 1095 days plus a few days (say 2 weeks) more to be on the safe side. You are pretty close to reaching this.

I wish you success.

 

[Zagalo]

Hey guys,

Thank you for these clarifications!

So please let me know: On September 6th 2014, it will be exactly 3 years that i came to settle down in Canada for good. I have only been absent from Canada for 9 days ( to the USA). So if i decide to sign and send my application on September 30th 2014 it should be fine right? Because it is within the last four years right?

And On question C: Enter the number of days between the day you became a permanent resident and the day you will sign your application, then i should enter the total number of days i was present present in Canada between Sept 6th 2014 and Sept 30 2014 right?

So the calculation will be: 1120 days (Sept 6th 2011-Sept 30th 2014) - 9 days( in the USA) = 1111 days so i am qualified right?

Please advise!

Thanks a lot for your time!

 

[Empirical-Scientist]

My advice is that you should accumulate the 1095 days plus a few days (say 2 weeks) more to be on the safe side. You are pretty close to reaching this.

I wish you success.

My advice is to accumulate the 1095 as the calculator would suggest. Then apply -- no need to wait as it's not logical.

 

[kumbu.bumbu]

Try Online Residency Calculator. It will not let you make mistakes in calculation as long as your dates are right.

https://eservices.cic.gc.ca/rescalc/resCalcStartNew.do

 

[Zagalo]

Thank you kumbu.bumbu and others.

I have no doubt that on Sept 30th 2014, i will be eligible because i will have more than 1095 days in a 4 year period

But my problem when i will have to fill the forms. Please look below:


A *Enter the date when you first came to Canada to live (YYYY-MM-DD).

It is June 22 2010. I came and left and came back on sept 6th 2011 to settle for good

B *Enter the date you became a permanent resident of Canada (see Box 45 on your Record of Landing (IMM 1000), Box 46 on your Confirmation of Permanent Residence (IMM 5292 or IMM 5509) or the back of your Permanent Resident Card)(YYYY-MM-DD).

Answer: It is June 22 2010


C *Enter the date you will sign the application. If you do not know when you will sign the application or are only checking to see if you are eligible, put today's date(YYYY-MM-DD).


Sept 30th 2014

So problem is between June 22nd 2010 and sept 30th 2014, it is more than 4 years! I presume my 4 year period will be from sept 30 th 2010 to sept 30th 2014 right? Really sorry for my poor math. but CAN SOMEONE SHOW ME HOW I WILL FILL THE SECTION 1 OF THIS FORM:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/citizen/CIT0407E.pdf

KEEPING IN MIND THAT I LANDED ON JUNE 22ND 2010, I LEFT, AND RETURNED TO SETTLE ON SEPT 6TH 2011 AND HAS SINCE NOT BEEN ABSENT FROM CANADA EXCEPT FOR TRIP IN THE USA ONLY FOR 9 DAYS? AND I WANT TO SIGN MY APPLICATION ON SEPT 30 2014?

WILL BE REALLY APPRECIATED!

I AM ALL CONFUSED!

THANKS!

 

[kumbu.bumbu]

You need not worry about the absence beyond 4 years. Your calculation starts Sep 30 2010.

Try the online calculator, even if you put the dates beyond 4 years it will give you a warning and will take only immediate 4 years from the date you intend to sign.

 

[Goldline]

You will be eligible to apply on sept 6, 2014 + 9 days = SEPT 15 or 16. If you wanna wait after that it's up to you. One thing is sure: IF YOU ARE SURE ABOUT YOUR DATES, WAITING FEW DAYS OR MONTHS AFTER 1095 DAYS DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.

 

[Zagalo]

Thanks all!

I will get ready to apply around sept 20th 2014.

Thanks!

Good luck!