Bringing my girlfriend to Canada

[Haarty]

Hello everyone. I'm a 20 year old Iranian who lives in Ukraine. Around 3-4 years ago my mother applied for residency for Canada as a skilled worker, at the time I was still in Iran. Me, my sister and my father are accompanying dependent while she is the principal applicant. I moved out of Iran at the age of 17, first to Emirates and then to Ukraine, and in Ukraine I met a girl whome I love and has been living with since then, for almost 3 years now.

Now after 4 years the answer from Canada finally came , we did our medical tests, I did them in Ukraine ofcourse and now my mother wants all of us to move to Canada, problem is I cant leave my girlfriend because of this, I wont be able to live with myself afterwards, thinking I changed my girlfriend with a residency paper.

Even though she understands my situation and says that she will do her best for her to also come with us, as a student or in any other possible way and that she is ready to finance her if need be,

1.I want to know what are the possible ways for her to come?
2.How much is the possibility of it (I hate to depend on chance or just sit and pray so that something will get fixed)?
3.what are the risks?
4.is there any assured way?

Here is some information I will share which will help you advice me :

She has great school marks in her diploma, she is 20 years old, 2 years she studied political science in a university, changed subject to IT later on and now she again changed university ( if she can get student visa, she wants to study fresh from the beginning of bachelor, im hoping her school diploma marks will get considered for that, yet im worried that these university changings might make her case hard, will they ?)

We have been living together yet it is really hard to find any document showing that we are common law partners, unfortunately we didnt think about that, the only possible document is our house rent agreement in which both of our names are stated.

I would marry her if that is what is needed to bring her to Canada but due to certain issues and problems that have absolutely no relation to Canada immigration and are related to document works in Ukraine, I cant marry her here, however I CAN marry her if I do go to Canada if there is such a thing possible, like being in Canada and marrying someone who is not there, and is Ukrainian by origin.

She has a house which is in her name, if that helps to show ties and she has an elderly mother.

Her English is fluent and she is going to do an academical IELTS this months, and im sure she will get more than 6.

Whatever I can and have to do, I have to do it now, I have 5 months remaining of staying in Ukraine with her, if something is necessary to do before going, tell me what it is because once I go, due to certain issues which some are related to my family there is a small chance of me being able to come back to Ukraine.

If there are any ways other than study visa possible for her to come considering this information, please tell me. ( Note : finance and money if needed wont be a problem.)

Please help me in this case, Im having a hard time sleeping at night and generally am really stressed,so is her, can hardly even eat, thinking about what might happen.

My many thanks,

Haartemis

 

[MilesAway]

I think you may have problems with your own PR, as you are in a common-law relationship, which means you are no longer a dependent.

If you land without declaring her, then you can never sponsor her. She can try to qualify under her own merits.

 

[Haarty]

Thanks for your answer. Well my question was more like what are all the possible ways, plus if I land, later get married with her (if it is possible to get married while im in Canada and she is in Ukraine), can I sponsor *then* ?

 

[MilesAway]

No, you would not, because she was not declared as your common-law spouse, and therefore can never be sponsored. And your own PR is in doubt at the moment anyway.

How do you plan to get married when you are in different countries? Canada does not allow proxy marriages.

 

[Haarty]

Well then what are the other possible ways ? invitation ? study ? what else ? what are the risks? is there any assured way knowing the situation?

 

[scylla]

You'll have to marry after you have landed and become a PR. In order to marry, you'll both have to meet in one country. She can try applying for a TRV to come and visit Canada. However given her single status, age, and country of origin - there's an excellent chance the visitor visa will be refused. If it's refused, you will have to travel to Ukraine to get married and then return to Canada without her to sponsor her. While her sponsorship application is in progress, you will have to remain in Canada. Long story short, there is an excellent chance you will have to be separated for quite a bit of time before she will be able to move to Canada as a PR.

The student permit route is certainly possible - but expensive. To be approved she will need to prove she has very strong ties to her home country and has no plans on remaining in Canada long term. She will also need to show that she has funds available of $25K or more (depending on the cost of her program) to fund her studies in Canada. If CIC believes she is looking to remain in Canada long term, her study permit will be refused.

 

[Haarty]

Thanks Scylla for kind and helpful answer. Question is this, if money is provided for her educational routine by me , and by that I mean me giving her the needed money and she putting it in a bank account for 4 months, so that finance problem will be solved, and if she shows and proves that she has an Elderly mother and a house to her name, which shows ties, are there STILL any risks of it getting rejected ? Because if said things are provided, as I see it, whatever they asked from a student who wants to get a visa and study there, we provided, can they still reject ?

 

[Rob_TO]

Hello everyone. I'm a 20 year old Iranian who lives in Ukraine. Around 3-4 years ago my mother applied for residency for Canada as a skilled worker, at the time I was still in Iran. Me, my sister and my father are accompanying dependent while she is the principal applicant. I moved out of Iran at the age of 17, first to Emirates and then to Ukraine, and in Ukraine I met a wonderful girl whome I deeply love and has been living with since then, for almost 3 years now.

Now after 4 years the answer from Canada finally came , we did our medical tests, I did them in Ukraine ofcourse and now my mother wants all of us to move to Canada, problem is I cant leave my girlfriend because of this, I wont be able to live with myself afterwards, thinking I changed my girlfriend with a residency paper.

You have a major problem. Having lived with your gf now for 3 years, you are NOT A DEPENDENT ANYMORE in your mom's application. You need to tell CIC you are common-law and they will remove you from your mom's application, and you'll need to try to get your PR some other way independently.

Definition of Type A dependent from CIC: The dependant is under the age of 22 and single (not married and not in a common-law relationship).

If you get PR visa and land as a SINGLE person when in fact you have been in a common-law relationship with someone for 3 years, that is misrepresentation/fraud and you put not just your own PR at risk, but your entire family's as well if CIC found out. You would also NEVER be able to sponsor your gf in the future.

 

[scylla]

Thanks Scylla for kind and helpful answer. Question is this, if money is provided for her educational routine by me , and by that I mean me giving her the needed money and she putting it in a bank account for 4 months, so that finance problem will be solved, and if she shows and proves that she has an Elderly mother and a house to her name, which shows ties, are there STILL any risks of it getting rejected ? Because if said things are provided, as I see it, whatever they asked from a student who wants to get a visa and study there, we provided, can they still reject ?

Yes - of course CIC can still reject it. I would say the risk of rejection is relatively high.

If she has no ongoing income (e.g. no parent with an income who can continue funding her studies past one year) - she will probably be refused anyway due to insufficient income. Your money won't be enough. It's also possible CIC may ask her to prove your money is her's - which she won't be able to do. And then you'll be looking at a refusal again.

 

[scylla]

You have a major problem. Having lived with your gf now for 3 years, you are NOT A DEPENDENT ANYMORE in your mom's application. You need to tell CIC you are common-law and they will remove you from your mom's application, and you'll need to try to get your PR some other way independently.

If you get PR visa and land as a SINGLE person when in fact you have been in a common-law relationship with someone for 3 years, that is misrepresentation/fraud and you put not just your own PR at risk, but your entire family's as well if CIC found out. You would also NEVER be able to sponsor your gf in the future.

Agreed. This is a huge issue.

You will be lying when you land. You don't qualify as your parents' dependent anymore and therefore don't qualify for the PR visa through your parents. If you continue with this lie you will be putting many things at risk. Your choice.

 

[Haarty]

I have no intentions to bring any God or Any religion in this discussion as it will result in a conflict, nor do I have any intentions to turn this thread to a fight thread, there are other places in internet for that. And yes even though if she comes there for studying we will be together, but she IS coming there to study, as I have said, every sane person in the age of 20 will want to educate.

About if God will help her to get the visa or God wont help her, I cannot know, what I DO know is we should all refrain from talking about religions as it will always result in a conflict.

Please refrain from fighting, accusing, talking about religions,

please kindly help me in this case, otherwise dont start a conflict

Thanks


Rob_TO I am aware of that, and that is why Im not gonna sponsor as a common law, however I will keep what you said in mind, thanks.

 

[Haarty]

Thanks Scylla for your answers and warnings, now I have many things to consider.

And thanks alot for keeping the kind tone.Very Appreciated.

 

[Rob_TO]

Rob_TO I am aware of that, and that is why Im not gonna sponsor as a common law, however I will keep what you said in mind, thanks.

I don't think you quite understand. You are already legally common-law so you are no longer a dependent of your mom. You must disclose that you are common-law to CIC, else you are committing misrepresentation/fraud. Common-law and married are the exact same to CIC in terms of eligibility to be a dependent. So you would never be able to sponsor your gf in the future even if you get married later.

If you land as single, you will have committed immigration fraud. There is no way around this. If CIC finds out that you have lived with her 3 years already, after you land as single, ALL of your family's PRs could be questioned and possibly revoked.

 

[scylla]

I'm confused - who was talking about religion other than you?

Anyway, you should be aware that if you land as your parents' dependent, this means you will technically never be 'safe' in Canada because you will have committed misrepresentation to get here. This means that at any time in the future CIC could technically revoke your PR status and send you home - or even revoke citizenship once you have it since it will have been obtained fraudulently.

 

[Haarty]

The person who was talking about religion, misteriously his comments are removed, might be moderator removed his comment, he was saying that God would give my girlfriend visa if she is honest and wont if she is not honest.



Overally, thanks.