Bringing Mother along with us.

[goldy17venky]

Hi,
Greetings to all the wonderful members of the forum.

I want guidance regarding bringing my mother to Canada with us.
Me and my wife are moving in December, 2022, me being on Study Permit and wife on Open Work Permit. My brother just landed in Canada on Work Permit.

I want to bring my mother with us. I have many friends in Canada who have PR and are willing to write Invitation letter for my mother.
Please help me choose among these:

(i) My brother who just landed 2 days back, should send the invitation letter?
(ii) My friend who is a PR staying for many years in Canada should invite her ?
(iii) Any other way !

Thanks in Advance. Any help will be of great relief for me.

 

[Naturgrl]

Hi,
Greetings to all the wonderful members of the forum.

I want guidance regarding bringing my mother to Canada with us.
Me and my wife are moving in December, 2022, me being on Study Permit and wife on Open Work Permit. My brother just landed in Canada on Work Permit.

I want to bring my mother with us. I have many friends in Canada who have PR and are willing to write Invitation letter for my mother.
Please help me choose among these:

(i) My brother who just landed 2 days back, should send the invitation letter?
(ii) My friend who is a PR staying for many years in Canada should invite her ?
(iii) Any other way !

Thanks in Advance. Any help will be of great relief for me.

So you want your mother to visit for up to 6 months. If approved CBSA will determine length of visit when she enters Canada. She needs to show:

- her own funds to support a visit including airfare. If a long visit, then she needs to show considerable funds. Also if she requests a long visit, IRCC will think she is trying to live in Canada if her children are there.
- ties to home country: she needs to show reasons to return so job with letter and approved leave, business, properties to maintain etc.
- travel history: does she have travel to the US, UK, NZ or AUS?

Your brother just landed and he is not PR…none of you have PR. Him writing one 2 days after landing doesn’t strenghten her application especially if you are moving too. A friend can write an invitation but it may or may not add to the applicaiton. The best thing to do is for you to go, have your brother settle for 6 months and then apply for her TRV.

Where does she live because most processing takes many months?

 

[goldy17venky]

Thanks for a detailed reply. I highly appreciate it !

- So you want your mother to visit for up to 6 months. Yes ! Like 2-3 Months now and in coming years she can come and go for less than 6 months at a time.
- her own funds to support a visit including airfare. Yeah she Got sufficient funds.
- ties to home country: No Job. Only 2 Properties and old Parents to look after! Will it work ?
- travel history: does she have travel to the US, UK, NZ or AUS? On a Schengen Visa, Visited Germany, Switzerland, France etc. in 2015
- Where does she live because most processing takes many months? - Delhi, India !

Thanks

 

[Naturgrl]

Thanks for a detailed reply. I highly appreciate it !

- So you want your mother to visit for up to 6 months. Yes ! Like 2-3 Months now and in coming years she can come and go for less than 6 months at a time.
- her own funds to support a visit including airfare. Yeah she Got sufficient funds.
- ties to home country: No Job. Only 2 Properties and old Parents to look after! Will it work ?
- travel history: does she have travel to the US, UK, NZ or AUS? On a Schengen Visa, Visited Germany, Switzerland, France etc. in 2015
- Where does she live because most processing takes many months? - Delhi, India !

Thanks

So processing is 5-6 months, not including biometrics, so she needs to apply soon.

- Don’t know what you mean by come and go. CBSA will decide how long she can stay and if it looks like she is coming and going then they can deny her entry. Asking for a 2-3 month visit is not a good idea. It shows that she doesn’t have ties to her country. 3 weeks max.
- How much cash in the bank is she showing?
- Here ties are weak with no job and children not in the country. So she looks after her parents 24/7 and they live with her? If so include doctor’s notes that they require 24/7 care and notes from those who will care for her parents while she is gone. If she is coming for 2-3 months then she isn’t looking after her parents. Her parents are not a tie.
- she has no travel history

 

[goldy17venky]

Thanks for the insights. I will try to work on strengthening the application now and will reduce the intended stay to 3 weeks. She is having 28k CAD equivalent in her account and can mobilize more. Now thinking of dropping her Parents care thing, as she exclusively is not taking care of them.

 

[canuck78]

Thanks for the insights. I will try to work on strengthening the application now and will reduce the intended stay to 3 weeks. She is having 28k CAD equivalent in her account and can mobilize more. Now thinking of dropping her Parents care thing, as she exclusively is not taking care of them.

Hi,
Greetings to all the wonderful members of the forum.

I want guidance regarding bringing my mother to Canada with us.
Me and my wife are moving in December, 2022, me being on Study Permit and wife on Open Work Permit. My brother just landed in Canada on Work Permit.

I want to bring my mother with us. I have many friends in Canada who have PR and are willing to write Invitation letter for my mother.
Please help me choose among these:

(i) My brother who just landed 2 days back, should send the invitation letter?
(ii) My friend who is a PR staying for many years in Canada should invite her ?
(iii) Any other way !

Thanks in Advance. Any help will be of great relief for me.

There will be concerns that your mother is wanting to come live with you in Canada which is not incorrect. As already indicated given that both children are coming to Canada she should really wait until you have either both established yourselves in Canada or else at least your brother for 6 months. Neither of your permits are meant for parents to visit for extended periods of time.

 

[goldy17venky]

Thanks so much for the reply.

I am thinking on some other ground as well.
Can emotional support be a ground? My brother (not working as of now), his wife (Working in Toronto), 2 kids (5/8y). Can my brother and his wife (with six-figure offer letter and 1 pay stub) invite citing kids missing their grandmother and even they need emotional support during their transition?

Delaying for 6months unfortunately is not an option for me.
Thanks !

 

[Naturgrl]

Thanks so much for the reply.

I am thinking on some other ground as well.
Can emotional support be a ground? My brother (not working as of now), his wife (Working in Toronto), 2 kids (5/8y). Can my brother and his wife (with six-figure offer letter and 1 pay stub) invite citing kids missing their grandmother and even they need emotional support during their transition?

Delaying for 6months unfortunately is not an option for me.
Thanks !

Honestly, her profile is not strong as she doesn’t have ties to home country, children in Canada nor travel history. She may get lucky and be approved.

Your idea about emotional support for your brother makes it seem that even more she will not return home. His invitation letter can read that he wants her to visit and see where they are settled. And you can say that the kids miss their grandmother but they only landed a few days ago. If the kids hadn’t seen their grandmother for months/years then yes, but it has not even been a week.

The process is going to take 5-6 months. Just answered another couple on this forum in a similar situation. Her adult children are in Canada, and they were refused a visa for no family ties in home country. Couple will be reapplying with leave letters from their jobs.

 

[canuck78]

Thanks so much for the reply.

I am thinking on some other ground as well.
Can emotional support be a ground? My brother (not working as of now), his wife (Working in Toronto), 2 kids (5/8y). Can my brother and his wife (with six-figure offer letter and 1 pay stub) invite citing kids missing their grandmother and even they need emotional support during their transition?

Delaying for 6months unfortunately is not an option for me.
Thanks !

No emotional support is not a reason for your mother to have to travel and essentially move to Canada with you. If your mother can’t remain in her home country alone when you move to Canada then you should rethink whether coming to Canada is a good idea. You should still apply to see if she receives a TRV but her profile is not very strong if both her children are in Canada and have only recently relocated.

 

[RamSatt]

In my limited experience of visitor visa for parents, I suggest you be extremely specific. Explain what exactly she's coming to Canada to do, for how long, where she is going to stay.

As an international student, I wrote invitation letters for my parents, explaining that I wanted them at my Graduation convocation ceremony. And that I will take them around Toronto, Niagara, Hamilton, and Mississauga for a week before and after the ceremony. I mentioned the address of the Airbnb they would be staying at (providing details of that) and the dates too (approx). A period of 14 days. I wrote that I wanted to spend time with them, as I was meeting them after 18 months.

I agree with the advice of Canuck78 and Naturgrl. Wait for a few months, and then apply for visitor visa on her behalf. (Processing time will take a month or a few months anyway). While most people get the 10-year multiple entry visa. It really depends on the visa officer processing the file. Ties are important.

I'm not sure how long your program is, but if your graduation convocation is sometime next spring/summer, I'd encourage you to use that as a valid point for your mother to visit you.

 

[canuck78]

In my limited experience of visitor visa for parents, I suggest you be extremely specific. Explain what exactly she's coming to Canada to do, for how long, where she is going to stay.

As an international student, I wrote invitation letters for my parents, explaining that I wanted them at my Graduation convocation ceremony. And that I will take them around Toronto, Niagara, Hamilton, and Mississauga for a week before and after the ceremony. I mentioned the address of the Airbnb they would be staying at (providing details of that) and the dates too (approx). A period of 14 days. I wrote that I wanted to spend time with them, as I was meeting them after 18 months.

I agree with the advice of Canuck78 and Naturgrl. Wait for a few months, and then apply for visitor visa on her behalf. (Processing time will take a month or a few months anyway). While most people get the 10-year multiple entry visa. It really depends on the visa officer processing the file. Ties are important.

I'm not sure how long your program is, but if your graduation convocation is sometime next spring/summer, I'd encourage you to use that as a valid point for your mother to visit you.

Would at least complete a few months of studies before applying to visit for convocation if your program is 8 months long. The reason for travel and when you are applying still needs to make sense.

 

[goldy17venky]

I can't thank enough @Naturgrl and @canuck78 for providing the insights and @RamSatt for sharing recent experience.
I am starting my MBA at Concordia in Jan'2023 only, so the convocation thing unfortunately is out of the question.

As I don't have any other choice but to apply, I will keep her application very specific and keep her visit restricted to 2-3 weeks. Wish me Luck !! And thanks again

 

[canuck78]

I can't thank enough @Naturgrl and @canuck78 for providing the insights and @RamSatt for sharing recent experience.
I am starting my MBA at Concordia in Jan'2023 only, so the convocation thing unfortunately is out of the question.

As I don't have any other choice but to apply, I will keep her application very specific and keep her visit restricted to 2-3 weeks. Wish me Luck !! And thanks again

Again would wait until you have been in Canada for multiple months then apply.

 

[goldy17venky]

Thanks again @canuck78 and @Naturgrl for answering my queries and the guidance.

I applied in October End for my mother's TRV and Received Refusal on December 05, 2022.
I re-applied on December 20, 2022 and finally got PPR on 15th January, 2023.

The only change in documents was that in 1st application (GC Key), Inviters didn't have bank account and salary stubs.
In re-application (IRCC New portal) they had decent bank balance and 4 pay stubs. Rest all documents were same and just did some elaboration in the Cover Letter.

Thanks

 

[canuck78]

Thanks again @canuck78 and @Naturgrl for answering my queries and the guidance.

I applied in October End for my mother's TRV and Received Refusal on December 05, 2022.
I re-applied on December 20, 2022 and finally got PPR on 15th January, 2023.

The only change in documents was that in 1st application (GC Key), Inviters didn't have bank account and salary stubs.
In re-application (IRCC New portal) they had decent bank balance and 4 pay stubs. Rest all documents were same and just did some elaboration in the Cover Letter.

Thanks

This does not mean your mother can remain with you in Canada while you study. She still could be refused entry at the border and may be given less than 6 month stay. Even if she is given the full 6 months she will be expected to return home and not remain living with you during your studies. You need to be making plans for your mother to be able to leave Canada while you and your brother remain. Her TRV does not allow her to live in Canada or remain longterm.