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what is the next step now c6 will be voted in hoc or will there be another sitting in the senate for the third reading after voting c6 goes to hoc?
 
I want one good reason why they threw the vote till the end of next week and right on the last day before they go on holiday for two weeks!!
 
Coffee1981 said:
I am absolutely all-in favour of some form of doing revocations better, but this is a total windfall for the lawyer-lobby, and forces people to take their cases to court when they might not want to or be able to afford it. It's for the rich.

I don't think it is "You must go to the court." If you don't want, you simply don't go. That's all. c-6 just give people right to go to the court.
 
One step forward today... could be worst. Hoping now for a faster voting process in third reading.
The amendment is not too harsh for HoC not to accept it. I would assume they'll let it slide... could be wrong of course, I could just hope. It's been too long and still going! Smh
 
richard1234 said:
I don't think it is "You must go to the court." If you don't want, you simply don't go. That's all. c-6 just give people right to go to the court.

You have to go. There's no legislative mechanism in that amendment allowing someone not to. That's why it's flawed. The Minister can only choose to not proceed. Only the court can revoke someone's citizenship under this model. Re-read it if you don't believe me.
 
Coffee1981 said:
You have to go. There's no legislative mechanism in that amendment allowing someone not to. That's why it's flawed. The Minister can only choose to not proceed. Only the court can revoke someone's citizenship under this model. Re-read it if you don't believe me.

Let me know if my understanding is wrong. It entirely depends on citizen whether they want to go to court or not. The person (victim) has to request to go to the court. And if minister is not satisfied, he shall forward the case to the court.

(3.1) The person may, within 60 days after the day on which the notice is received,
(b) request that the case be referred to the Court.

(4.1) The Minister shall refer the case to the Court under subsection 10.1(1) if the person has made a request pursuant to paragraph (3.1)(b) unless the person has made written representations pursuant to paragraph (3.1)(a) and the Minister is satisfied
 
richard1234 said:
Let me know if my understanding is wrong. It entirely depends on citizen whether they want to go to court or not. The person (victim) has to request to go to the court. And if minister is not satisfied, he shall forward the case to the court.

(3.1) The person may, within 60 days after the day on which the notice is received,
(b) request that the case be referred to the Court.

(4.1) The Minister shall refer the case to the Court under subsection 10.1(1) if the person has made a request pursuant to paragraph (3.1)(b) unless the person has made written representations pursuant to paragraph (3.1)(a) and the Minister is satisfied

Re-read it. The minister is only able to not proceed on cases if they are satisfied that sufficient humanitarian grounds exist, or to revoke if they are unable to find the person in the world. Only the court will have the authority to revoke someone's citizenship. So, therefore, if the individual wants to admit to their wrong doing and not make a big deal of the matter, they can't. There's no legislative mechanism.

Further, what's the process for people who don't make humanitarian submissions and don't request the matter go to court? It doesn't say. Just sits on a shelf forever I guess... There's a loophole.
 
Oh God!! Guys just stop, either find or create another thread. I am sure you are the best at what you do profession wise, but please keep discussion to the progress of the bill rather than irrelevant analyses. If it has to happen, it will happen. Don't cry over the milk that you didn't spill. You must have figured out by now that we are powerless and worthless, so chill.
 
Confused in Montreal said:
Oh God!! Guys just stop, either find or create another thread. I am sure you are the best at what you do profession wise, but please keep discussion to the progress of the bill rather than irrelevant analyses. If it has to happen, it will happen. Don't cry over the milk that you didn't spill. You must have figured out by now that we are powerless and worthless, so chill.


That is 100% true , most of the discussions is out of the box
 
On tomorrow's agenda
March 8, 2017—Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Omidvar, seconded by the Honourable Senator Gagné, for the third reading of Bill C-6, An Act to amend the Citizenship Act and to make consequential amendments to another Act, as amended.

https://sencanada.ca/en/content/sen/chamber/421/orderpaper/109op_2017-04-05-e
 
Hi i knew little bit about Bills processing so please some one explain exactly what is going on Bill c-6 in senate stage? because too much confusing here all mix up joke and serious,thanks
 
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