so, any news today?marcher said:I have been a follower of this forum for years. First back when I was applying for PR, and recently since C-24 affected my citizenship application. I never really commented, just read what people had to say, and assumed it was true. It seemed everyone was 100% sure C-6 was going to take a week or two and bring back 3/5 rule overnight. When I decided to do a bit of my own research, nothing fancy just google, it took me less than 5 minutes to understand the real situation, and be aware that we are in for a long political marathon with C-6 due to the political implications surrounding it. At that moment, I commented every time someone was making some nonsense statements misleading everyone and giving false hope. The result was excessive push back from people accusing me of being pessimist and trying to break people's hope; while I was being realist and protecting them from false hope.
It took some time until people like you, canadasucks, admontreal, screech and a few others started commenting along the same lines as I was; sticking to facts rather than Disneyland speculation. We disagree on certain assumptions, but we all agree on valid facts; such as the fact there is NO BLOODY NEWS (good nor bad) before January 31st since everyone is on vacation. The reason I am telling this story is because after all this, there are still a few people who seem to prefer to believe good news (even if they are a lie) than listen to the actual truth. Some people ...
As for politicians, I think we are in general unfair towards them. People including media ask them unreasonable questions and expect answers, so in most times they give their opinion, but everyone takes it as a fact. Whoever asked Minister McCullum when C-6 will be implemented was very unreasonable. How does one expect the Minister to know the answer if the bill is not in his hands, it is down to the Senate at all levels. If McCullum did not answer then that would be used against him too. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
Bill C-6: Senate stage
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shame on senators their system is way back from gunboat centuries,,,and always Liberal is best at least they dont break your home if they cant't fix itmonalisa said:Will never happen unless the senates committee meet before 31 Jan 8) they are enjoying florida beach
If we look at Senate readings of C6 before the summer break this year i.e before 20 June 2016 ,looks like it passed the First reading in just one day.
If the same can repeat for the committee stage(which is possible) and third reading(reasonable time can be 2 weeks though) it can get Royal assent in first or second week of Feb.
If the same can repeat for the committee stage(which is possible) and third reading(reasonable time can be 2 weeks though) it can get Royal assent in first or second week of Feb.
Lol.I cant stop laughing.marcher said:
Twice she quoted democracy in her speech.
"Opposition in the Senate might be inconvenient for the Trudeau government, but we have a critical role to play in protecting Canadian democracy: to hold the government accountable and to voice minority and regional views not represented in the majority Liberal government in the House of Commons."
"This is Canada, a free, democratic country. We must not allow the Trudeau government to destroy the opposition in a democratic chamber of Parliament, emptying these opposition benches forever."
But members of the Senate are selected and not elected by people like in a democracy.
And they were only trying to make use of their so-called majority in Senate to delay a bill as much as possible that was passed by a democratically
elected HOC.
Senate and democracy are no where close.
I dont know the position of other bills.
But for C6 for sure it is was was her fellow Senators who are trying to undermine democracy in a big way.
And where was the "opposition in the Senate" and "democracy" when they had full control over the HOC and Senate and C24 flied through the
Senate in 4 days i.e shorted possible time for a bill to go through the Senate Stage.