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Bill C-6: Senate stage

marcher

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canadasucks said:
Yes, that was a classic "legitimate expectation" case. UK changed the law to increase the residency requirement for PR from 4 years to 5 years. There were two cases from two different groups, one from work permit holders and they lost, one from highly skilled migrants and they won. Because on work permit letter there was no mention but on highly skilled migrant letter there was mention of "you may apply PR after 4 years".

So if on any official letters from CIC related to PR mentioned about "you may apply citizenship after 3 years", then it would establish "legitimate expectation".
Do you remember the case name by any chance?
 

spiritsoul

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canadasucks said:
Yes, that was a classic "legitimate expectation" case. UK changed the law to increase the residency requirement for PR from 4 years to 5 years. There were two cases from two different groups, one from work permit holders and they lost, one from highly skilled migrants and they won. Because on work permit letter there was no mention but on highly skilled migrant letter there was mention of "you may apply PR after 4 years".

So if on any official letters from CIC related to PR mentioned about "you may apply citizenship after 3 years", then it would establish "legitimate expectation".
Waiting for 4 years and then apply will be much faster than filing a legitimate expectation..... although I would win it as it says clearly:

CANADIAN CITIZENSHIP: As a general rule, permanent residents may apply for citizenship after accumulating three years of residence in Canada during a four year period. To acquire Canadian citizenship, applicants must, among other things, demonstrate an ability in either English or French. Interested persons should contact the citizenship office in their area for complete details. Information is also available at http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/index.asp
 

MoAnwar7

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spiritsoul said:
Please participate to this:

twitter.com/hajfarra/status/803979425012453376

you could mention as many Senators as you like.
good Idea. lets all at least re-tweet this or like.
 

canadasucks

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marcher said:
Do you remember the case name by any chance?
This is the full text of judgement. I attended all the hearings at the high court. There were strong evidences from our side and the government lawyer was defenseless.
http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2009/711.html
 

captain74

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canadasucks said:
Yes, that was a classic "legitimate expectation" case. UK changed the law to increase the residency requirement for PR from 4 years to 5 years. There were two cases from two different groups, one from work permit holders and they lost, one from highly skilled migrants and they won. Because on work permit letter there was no mention but on highly skilled migrant letter there was mention of "you may apply PR after 4 years".

So if on any official letters from CIC related to PR mentioned about "you may apply citizenship after 3 years", then it would establish "legitimate expectation".
I was personally impacted by the case and can confirm the complete accuracy of what canadasucks' has been saying on this forum with regards to the case brought by HSMP holders against the UK government. I could apply for UK PR after 4 years because the case was decided in the favour of HSMP holdres on 'legitimate expectations' basis.

As some one in a very similar situation (to canadasucks) I also completely agree with the arguments canadasucks makes in comparing the Canadian and UK immigration systems.
 

Shmak2017

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Any one watching today`s Gong Show live from Ottawa ?
 

spiritsoul

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Shmak2017 said:
Any one watching today`s Gong Show live from Ottawa ?
On board...
 

canadasucks

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spiritsoul said:
Waiting for 4 years and then apply will be much faster than filing a legitimate expectation..... although I would win it as it says clearly:

CANADIAN CITIZENSHIP: As a general rule, permanent residents may apply for citizenship after accumulating three years of residence in Canada during a four year period. To acquire Canadian citizenship, applicants must, among other things, demonstrate an ability in either English or French. Interested persons should contact the citizenship office in their area for complete details. Information is also available at http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/index.asp
Because the Liberals gave us the false hope and we trusted them and wasted the precious time.

Otherwise I would have brought the case to Supreme Court 2 years ago like we did in the UK and certainly would have won if the justice system in this country is not as corrupted as the government.
 

spiritsoul

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canadasucks said:
Because the Liberals gave us the false hope and we trusted them and wasted the precious time.

Otherwise I would have brought the case to Supreme Court 2 years ago like we did in the UK and certainly would have won if the justice system in this country is not as corrupted as the government.
We're half way through already because of this false hope we were given by the Liberals!!
 

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spiritsoul said:
If they're are interested, why don't get prepared a head of time so 3, 4, or 5 Senators can talk in the same sitting instead of them adjourn the debate and start preparing, it ridiculous M/s Conservatives........ You know what!! it's ridiculous from pro C-6 who agree to each and every adjournment!!!
- Well they have to agree to adjournment. Senator job is to remain non partisan

cazrypr said:
Thts good news. If I may ask how your met 10 of them the same day?
Yes I was invited to a reception by a senator during the session so they all visited so I got to speak with many of them
 

spiritsoul

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punk said:
- Well they have to agree to adjournment. Senator job is to remain non partisan
At least two Senators (one of them Omidvar) can stand and say "on division"
 

spiritsoul

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The bill C-6 is again SKIPPED today Nov. 30, 2016.........

I doubt Frum will open the debate before the Spring!!
 

Richard11

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guys don't give up keep talking about Bill c-6! and keep contact minster of immigration and contact MPs and senators