Bill C-6: Senate stage

[subha_1962]

Sen. Mobina Jaffer‏Verified account @SenJaffer 34m34 minutes ago

#C6 @SenHarder speaking to amendment and said amendment would give procedural fairness .Asked we pass this Bill now #senCA

 

[proudian]

Not sure whether this 1 hour break could bring any impact on the voting as now opposition could get a chance to group and vote for stronger no

 

[vasyok]

Just the correction here, the vote is on the ammendment, not on debate adjournment. The speaker did a vote already for debate adjournment at which majority came nayy so they decided to do proceed and do vote at 4:04

No, the speaker ruled that 'nays' prevailed, i.e., the senate did not agree to the adjournment, however, two senators challenged this decision (senate rule #9.3) so they now scheduled a 'standing vote' (where they will call each senator individually). Essentially, this standing vote will be a formal vote rather than yays/nays we have just heard.

 

[WeazyF]

So would the vote be broadcasted like the debates also?!

 

[subha_1962]

So question, please answer if you know, is this standing vote for the amendment or adjournment as there are different members here saying different things.

 

[vasyok]

So would the vote be broadcasted like the debates also?!

Yes.

 

[proudian]

The two senators who stood were to request a session break as the speaker clearly said that vote for ammendment would be at 4:04

 

[dodgeviper]

So question, please answer if you know, is this standing vote for the amendment or adjournment as there are different members here saying different things.

It is for the amendment as per my understanding. Once the amendment is approved the bill can be approved with amendment next week before going to HOC again for re-approval.

 

[vasyok]

The two senators who stood were to request a session break as the speaker clearly said that vote for ammendment would be at 4:04

Senate usually relies on 'voice vote' (senators say yays/nays and the speaker decided who was louder ) (rule #9.1). If the "defeated party" does not agree to what speaker thinks about this voice vote, they can ask for a standing vote (according to the rule 9.3).

To make it more clear, here is what just happened:

1. Senator Martin (I believe) asked to adjourn the debate on the amendment on her name.
2. Senate did the voice vote (yays/nays)
3. Speaker ruled that the "nays" prevailed, meaning the senate did not agree to the adjournment and should proceed with the discussion/vote on the amendment.
4. Two senators said they want a standing vote
5. At 3:04, the speaker asked the whips when this standing vote should happen.
6. Whips said 1 hour, so that vote (that the two senators asked for) will happen at 4:04.

Edit: just to clarify, they are still dealing with sen. Martin request for an adjournment.

 

[_MK_]

The two senators who stood were to request a session break as the speaker clearly said that vote for ammendment would be at 4:04

Yes I agree. Thats what I heard. I dont see why the Cons would ask for a standing vote for adjournment. That doesn't make sense.

 

[vasyok]

BTW, the whips asked for 1 hour (the max time they can ask for according to the rule 9.5(2)). This means that either one of the parties (libs or cons; independents do not have a whip) does not have enough votes at the moment OR they want to delay the vote as much as possible.

 

[vasyok]

Yes I agree. Thats what I heard. I dont see why the Cons would ask for a standing vote for adjournment. That doesn't make sense.

Delay tactic?

Anyway, we will know exactly what they will vote for in about 20 minutes

 

[sistemc]

I think it was clear - at 4:04 they are voting on the motion. That is they are voting on the amendment.

 

[Sialy]

Sen. Mobina Jaffer‏Verified account @SenJaffer 34m34 minutes ago

#C6 @SenHarder speaking to amendment and said amendment would give procedural fairness .Asked we pass this Bill now #senCA

I hope good luck for C6

 

[vasyok]

I think it was clear - at 4:04 they are voting on the motion. That is they are voting on the amendment.

The last motion was the motion to adjourn...