Bill C-24 Second Reading on February 27th:

[polarbear]

[size=10pt][size=10pt][size=10pt]June 20th is the last working day of the parliament.

We barely have 15 working days.

I don't think they can pass the bill by June 20th.

Parliament will open on September 15th, so we may have some breathing space.

My best bet, bill will pass in October, because they have Citizenship week in October.[/size][/size][/size]

:-X

 

[sazamizi]

Hi guys,

I'm wondering if any change has been done in the bill ? Or it's being passed as is?

 

[zardoz]

Hi guys,

I'm wondering if any change has been done in the bill ? Or it's being passed as is?

So far, no changes have been made.

 

[us2yow]

Guys, as much as they have somewhat undemocratically limited debate, muzzled witnesses and behaved in "Bush era" like fashion,

The Committee and Report stage is quite detailed. They are supposed to go through clause by clause, and maybe there are going to be some formal protests from the Lawyers associations, also that petition which is reaching 25 K signatures etc. Then also amendments that will be suggested and debated, and the working on an updated report.

Also, even when its approved, there are all these system updates and changes - electronic and systemwide- they have to make to update it to reflect new procedures. Also, looks like they want to get ready for the Express Entry program to start in January 2015 when Skilled Worker Program will change forever.

 

[turboracer]

[size=10pt][size=10pt][size=10pt]June 20th is the last working day of the parliament.

We barely have 15 working days.

I don't think they can pass the bill by June 20th.

Parliament will open on September 15th, so we may have some breathing space.

My best bet, bill will pass in October, because they have Citizenship week in October.[/size][/size][/size]

:-X

So my question is if passes in October then the law will be effected from which month ? will it be 2015 April ?

 

[Skakeholder]

[size=10pt][size=10pt][size=10pt]June 20th is the last working day of the parliament.

We barely have 15 working days.

I don't think they can pass the bill by June 20th.

.[/size][/size][/size]

:-X

Senate's last day is June 27. They have 3 more sitting days than the House of Commons.
Check it out.

http://www.parl.gc.ca/ParlBusiness/senate/calendar/cal2014-e.htm

 

[polarbear]

So my question is if passes in October then the law will be effected from which month ? will it be 2015 April ?

May be it will become law from:

October 2014 : Citizenship Week

or

July 1st 2014: Canada Day

or

January 1st 2015, new year.

 

[us2yow]

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/acts-regulations/forward-regulatory-plan/citreform.asp

These regulatory amendments are conditional to the passage of the Bill which is currently following the legislative process. Regulatory amendments could occur in 2014 or 2015 and would include amendments to support the legislative amendments relating to increased efficiencies in the citizenship program.

 

[turboracer]

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/acts-regulations/forward-regulatory-plan/citreform.asp

These regulatory amendments are conditional to the passage of the Bill which is currently following the legislative process. Regulatory amendments could occur in 2014 or 2015 and would include amendments to support the legislative amendments relating to increased efficiencies in the citizenship program.

Question to us2yow

So that means it might become law on april 2015 might right?

 

[sazamizi]

Several parts of the bill are unconstitutional!
They have to change it.
I believe we need to start a champagne and negotiate with lawyers and human rights groups to drag the conservative governments to the Supreme Court .

So far, no changes have been made.

 

[civic]

Several parts of the bill are unconstitutional!
They have to change it.
I believe we need to start a champagne and negotiate with lawyers and human rights groups to drag the conservative governments to the Supreme Court .

Or protest in front of Senate building at Senate's readings on the bill
We have 25k signatures it's a great tool to connect people.

 

[hussinhamid]

the latest on the parliament site
Vote #157 on May 29th, 2014

Bill
C-24 An Act to amend the Citizenship Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts

Vote topic
That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word “That” and substituting the following:

“the House decline to give second reading to Bill C-24, An Act to amend the Citizenship Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, because it:

( a) does not provide an adequate solution for reducing citizenship application processing times, which have been steadily increasing;

( b) puts significant new powers in the hands of the Minister that will allow this government to politicize the granting of Canadian citizenship;

( c) gives the Minister the power to revoke citizenship, which will deny some Canadians access to a fair trial in Canada and will raise serious questions since Canadian law already includes mechanisms to punish those who engage in unlawful acts; and

( d) includes a declaration of intent to reside provision, which in fact gives officials the power to speculate on the intent of a citizenship applicant and then potentially deny citizenship based on this conjecture.”.

 

[Matt the Aussie]

the latest on the parliament site
Vote #157 on May 29th, 2014

Bill
C-24 An Act to amend the Citizenship Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts

Vote topic
That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word “That” and substituting the following:

“the House decline to give second reading to Bill C-24, An Act to amend the Citizenship Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, because it:

( a) does not provide an adequate solution for reducing citizenship application processing times, which have been steadily increasing;

( b) puts significant new powers in the hands of the Minister that will allow this government to politicize the granting of Canadian citizenship;

( c) gives the Minister the power to revoke citizenship, which will deny some Canadians access to a fair trial in Canada and will raise serious questions since Canadian law already includes mechanisms to punish those who engage in unlawful acts; and

( d) includes a declaration of intent to reside provision, which in fact gives officials the power to speculate on the intent of a citizenship applicant and then potentially deny citizenship based on this conjecture.”.

While I agree with all of those points, this amendment has precisely 0% chance of being passed.

 

[turboracer]

It seems the law will be passed soon

What is everyone's guess though

 

[sazamizi]

FYI !
Why will citizenship be easier to lose?

The new law divides Canadians into two classes of citizens: first class Canadians who hold no other citizenship, and second class Canadians – dual citizens, who can have their right to live in Canada taken away from them. Even if you are born in Canada, you are at risk of losing citizenship if you have dual citizenship or the possibility of dual citizenship. You may not even know that you possess another citizenship. If you have a spouse, parent, or grandparent who is a citizen of another country, you may have a right to citizenship without ever having applied for it. The proposed law would put you at risk of losing your Canadian citizenship if the Minister asserts that you possess or could obtain another citizenship. The burden would be on you to prove otherwise to the Minister’s satisfaction.

The new law will make it easier for the government to take away your citizenship in the following ways:

1. For all naturalized citizens, a federal government official can revoke your citizenship if he believes you never intended to live in Canada. This could happen if you decide to study in, accept a job in, or reside in another country. In contrast, Canadian citizens born in Canada cannot lose their citizenship by living outside of Canada.

2. For Canadians with potential dual citizenship, an official may remove your citizenship for a criminal conviction in another country, even if the other country is undemocratic or lacks the rule of law. The official may also remove your citizenship for certain serious criminal convictions in Canada, even if you have already served your sentence in Canada.

3. The power to remove your citizenship will be given to an official of Citizenship and Immigration Canada. The decision may be made in writing with no opportunity for you to speak to the official. Under the current law, to take away your citizenship, the government must make an application to a Federal Court judge where you will have an oral hearing to defend your right to citizenship.