Been here almost a year, Canada not so great

[matlal]

Wat a depressing thread.

Why take the easiest road and expect great things.

PR process, is the easiest road,

AEO option , would have gauranteed you a good job, good sal and then you could have moved.

Dont blame a country, bad career decisons or bad career moves.

-Matlal

 

[ADUFE]

Very well said Ayazf and Nano, +1 to both of you

 

[ayazf]

Very well said Ayazf and Nano, +1 to both of you

Oh thank you so much, this wud be my first one.

 

[nicholas30]

blah blah blah blah the debate will always continue.......... Do what's best for YOU

 

[nano24482]

Thank you so much..

Very well said Ayazf and Nano, +1 to both of you

 

[korean guy]

Well, this thread is really depressing.
I do not normally write in this forum, but I just want to add my thoughts.

I am currently doing PhD in St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada, and have been living in Canada for about 6 years (2 years in Vancouver, 4 years here).
It is very real and unfortunate that people from other countries tend to struggle to get a job, especially in the field where they want to be or where they have experience in their home country.
In Vancouver, I have seen so many talented immigrants (may be from one of the best Univ. in Korea with manager experience from a big company in Korea) who still have problem to get a job. Many lawyers and doctors in there home countries drive taxi or deliver pizza, or open a laundry or convenient store if they can afford (which is still a good situation for the family).
One time I heard a joke saying "You could build a really competitive law firm with some of the taxi drivers in Vancouver."

Even so, I fill that Canada is a still fair country in terms of treating immigrants for jobs.
But, this tend to apply when they have some sort of "Canadian experience".
Every country has some level of discrimination for foreigners for jobs, and I have seen that in my own country, South Korea as well.
These days, we have a really really bad economy in Canada as well, although their government keep trying to say that "Canadian economy is doing really well, compared to other OECD countries."
Being said that, even lots of lots of Canadians can not get a job easily these days, but I have seen many (really many) foreign students graduating from Canadian universities get a job (not any job but actually in their field with good working conditions).
Some of the students have just B.A., some of them don't even speak good English, some of them do not have any working experience other than Canadian university degree.
But, they eventually manage to get a job they wants.
I am sure this situation will vary depending on the fields, though.

So, I strongly suggest you thinking about having some Canadian degree at least if you think you are still young enough to do that.
Or, try to make some Canadian working experience, volunteering or taking part in any activities.

Canada seems very conservative and considering reference very important, when hiring people.
So, we would really need to build some Canadian network for references, having any "Canadian experience".

Sorry for the long writing.

Good luck to all of you, and God bless you.

Shin

 

[korean guy]

Well,

You can choose you can be always negative or try to be positive even when things are not so good.

Around me, I have known Chinese students with BA now working as permanent job even here, Korean guys working as Engineers in St. John's.
I know many graduate students are working as Biologists and Geologists in Calgary. I know people working in Vancouver.

I do not know where you got "90% or 99%", I am seeing something different.

Rosy picture?
Did you even read my writing.
I am suggesting people who still want to come to Canada for their dream even in these bad days that we should increase our chances to settle down here preparing ourselves.

I do not really think it is appropriate for you to judge my doing PhD in St. John's Cnada, as I do not think it is others' concern for me to get a job or to do anything with my degree.

Thanks,

Shin

 

[vermas]

Guys - Pls stop attacking and criticizing each other. We all have freedom to express ourselves though our opinions and perceptions may be different. Let's be constructive and positive and show tolerance. Those who are already in Canada are welcome to share their real experiences.

 

[deva]

Friends this is what I have found about PhDs in Canada: http://scienceadvocacy.org/Blog/2011/07/12/stic-series-the-production-of-phds-and-what-do-we-do-with-them/

 

[Kummy29]

Yes, All who are waiting for their PR's,pls. be constructive and optimistic. These are just lessons to be well-informed and cautious.
of course we all know that we haven't chosen an easy path to travel.

My suggestion is, (at least I am planning to do so) to not resign or leave your job and go to Canada, rather try and work with your current employer and see if you can get transferred.

 

[bkuper]

"Korean guy", everyone who firsts lands here is positive about their future life in Canada. Everyone is prepared to work hard and make a go of it. However, the reality seems to be completely different. Nobody can tell me that after we've been here 10 months and are continuing to get kicked in the guts daily, that we must just "choose to be positive".

In our personal situation, we do largely regret coming here. We were much better off working and paying taxes in Australia compared to having either no work or stupid, unrelated, career-killing odd jobs in Canada.

So, for those who are thinking "go back to where you came from", I totally agree with you. Why invest the time, money and effort coming here or attempting to make a better life for yourself? Very few people are going to help you, everything is a struggle and I'm just not sure the effort is worth it in the end.

Again, I'm sure there are a few people out there who have had more positive experiences although I've yet to meet any of them.

 

[Canooknic]

We were one of the lucky ones, my fiancé found work after 10 weeks, but he worked really hard during those weeks to find a job, and now I am lucky enough to be able to stay at home to raise our children.
However, before we moved here we made sure we had enough money to support us for 12 months just in case he couldn't find work. We had agreed that if he didn't find work in his field in 3 months then one of us would get a survival job, luckily it never came to that, but we were prepared for it.

Saving hard meant that we waited an extra year to move, but it gave us financial security so we didn't have the added burden and could concentrate on getting him the right job.

Bkuper - I'm so sorry that you haven't enjoyed your time here, I don't understand why things work out for one but not another, it's obvious that you've tried hard to find work. I truly hope that you are successful in your future whether here or back in Australia. Good luck, & keep smiling xxx

 

[CEC_2174]

It is always better to be 99% +ve but we should think about that 1% -ve also and should be prepared for that.
Whatever I have written here is for those +ve guys who sometimes want to know what worst they can expect or face


The gist of the matter is:

Doctors/ Engineers/Teachers/Lawyers (regulated jobs where licensing is required) may find it very hard to find a job here.
Getting such jobs is possible through networking or If you have pre-arranged job of your choice like intercompany work transfers etc then you can manage to survive here

You can try your luck If you have a solid financial backing, family of 3 needs approx $2000-$2500 to survive here monthly. Initial settlement expenses minimum $500-$9000 depending on how much cozy you wanna be 

People who are willing to do factory jobs, coffee shop jobs, labor, construction etc can get jobs through Canadian employment agencies which pay you minimum wages approx $10 an hour. One can see lot of un-educated people around who can not even communicate do some these jobs. I wonder how they manage to immigrate to Canada.
They are the ones who make most of it by immigrating to Canada.


And just to add one of my very good friend immigrated here around 7 years back, he worked as a security guard initially for his survival , he used to travel 10-12 KMs daily to save on bus fare which he could utilize in groceries or other daily needs
Now he owns a million dollar house in Canada so you never know

 

[korean guy]

It is very very true that getting a job is not easy, or may be extremely difficult for foreigners or immigrants in Canada as I said before.

So, if you still want to come into Canada, please open your mind to accept the reality and prepared to do anything here, otherwise this decision could end up being the worst one you ever make.

If you still want to come and get a job here, please try to make as many networks as you can, since the companies tend to ask for references most of the time.
Moreover, quite a lot of jobs are available through person to person they know each other.
You do not have to get a degree in Canada as long as you try to do anything else to broaden your network, including volunteering and any opportunities,
because sometimes volunteering can turn into your actual job.

That is what I really meant, being real preparing ourselves.
But, from my experience, still believe that this is not totally something impossible for so many people.

I just feel like if I do not have any Canadian working experience or Canadian degree or Canadian networks or references, or anything to do with Canada, I do not see how I would compete against the already unemployed Canadians to get a job I really want myself.

By the way, I really feel sorry for you, bkuper, and there must be a really nice job for you somewhere.
Good luck and God bless you.

 

[john.smith1779]

Hi Guyz,

Can any body help me, how can i apply for Austriala PR and how long it will take?
I am in Canada on work permit and applied for Canadian PR in back Jan 2010.
Don't heard anything yet. I dont want LMO again and again

Thanks