Banking / marketing industry : any market for jobs?

[quebecnewhusband]

Hello everybody,

My wife in Thailand will soon start the whole immigration process in Canada and we plan to live in Montreal. I would just like to know if anyone has any inputs of the job market in her field with her current resume :

- 34 years old
- Master degree in Marketing in the best Bangkok university
- Has been working for 8 years as a senior assistant manager and marketing strategist for one of the largest bank in Thailand. (The bank is owned at 49% by Scotia Bank)
- Fluent in English. Will take French classes as soon as she arrives)

Any idea if this kind of resume could get her a good job? Or if it would be best for her to get a new degree in a canadian university?

 

[mrbeachman]

That's Thanachart Bank?

Sorry to say, but she has no chance in Canada. No one is going to hire her except maybe a call center at RBC branch.

Thai degrees outside Thailand are useless.... if you spent any time in Thailand you should know this very well.

I think you need to be extremely fair to her and explain that she will never have a decent job in Canada with her qualifications as she has right now in Thailand.

Personally, I think you are crazy in putting her in this predicament as Thai people need to have security and since she will have no job she will rightfully expect that you take care of her. Did you really think this through carefully enough???

This is one of the reasons why I am staying in Bangkok with my Thai lady. She works for Siemens and the quality of life is simply not comparable to what she would have in Canada.

You seriously need to think this through.

- Has been working for 8 years as a senior assistant manager and marketing strategist for one of the largest bank in Thailand. (The bank is owned at 49% by Scotia Bank)

I am sorry if I sound a little rough, but why even mention this? Who cares? The bank has no connections to Canada and even if it did there is absolutely no advantage in this regarding her employment. Thai Banking system is like a night and day comparing to Canada.

If it makes you feel any better, she could have had the same position in Hong Kong working for HSBC (another bank that bailed out of Thailand) and she would still have trouble gaining any meaningful employment in Canada.

I just think you need to be fair to her and explain everything. I do not think you are doing that judging by the questions you asked here.

 

[quebecnewhusband]

That's Thanachart Bank?

Sorry to say, but she has no chance in Canada. No one is going to hire her except maybe a call center at RBC branch.

Thai degrees outside Thailand are useless.... if you spent any time in Thailand you should know this very well.

I think you need to be extremely fair to her and explain that she will never have a decent job in Canada with her qualifications as she has right now in Thailand.

Personally, I think you are crazy in putting her in this predicament as Thai people need to have security and since she will have no job she will rightfully expect that you take care of her. Did you really think this through carefully enough???

This is one of the reasons why I am staying in Bangkok with my Thai lady. She works for Siemens and the quality of life is simply not comparable to what she would have in Canada.

You seriously need to think this through.

I am sorry if I sound a little rough, but why even mention this? Who cares? The bank has no connections to Canada and even if it did there is absolutely no advantage in this regarding her employment. Thai Banking system is like a night and day comparing to Canada.

If it makes you feel any better, she could have had the same position in Hong Kong working for HSBC (another bank that bailed out of Thailand) and she would still have trouble gaining any meaningful employment in Canada.

I just think you need to be fair to her and explain everything. I do not think you are doing that judging by the questions you asked here.

Wow... Not really the kind of reply I was expecting. I don't mind getting straightforward replies, but your personal judgement on our own situation should definitely be left aside.

We are really in the early stage here. We are getting married now, and living in Canada looks like the most possible outcome if we want to be together. This is something we are doing together. I won't bring her in a situation that is hopeless for her. And sorry to say that, but by reading you, it feels like the only thing she'll ever be able to do in Canada is work for a call center or be on wellfare. This seems pretty exagerated.

First of all, can you tell us what you base yourself on? Is this personal experience only? Are you in touch with the hiring staff of canadian banks? Is this based on what you read on Internet forums?

We are aware and prepared to the fact that the transition won't be that easy. We both agree that I'll be the one taking care of her financially for 1, 2, 3 or more years. But of course, she has her pride and doesn't want to depend on me all of her life. She's more than willing to pursue her university studies and acquire a degree in Canada, and I'm willing to support her in that. Professionally, she's open to the possibility of working for another industry than banking (her job in Thailand is very stressful and demanding and she would certainly appreciate better working conditions). While I have my own career in a completely different field, opening a business together is another option that we would consider. We are heading through this with an open mind and with determination, and while we appreciate inputs from people who will tell us it won't be easy (we are aware!), what would be more interesting is to read the story and experience of those who succeeded in Canada.

Other opinions and advices would be very appreciated.

 

[mrbeachman]

No... sorry... it is not an exaggeration at all.... but I am pretty sure someone will be here shortly enough to tell you a fairy tale that you want to hear.

Look, your question was if she can get a good job with her qualifications. The answer is, no she can not.

It also does not help that you are bringing her to Quebec where let's face it... Asians are not loved that much to put it very mildly.

If you want to settle in Canada and do something related to her degree then why not live in Toronto? Banking is pretty big there.

If you want to open a business and do something else that great... but your question was specifically about getting an employment in her field. She wants to do something else? You want to open a business? Great! But that was not your question.

What kind of answer did you really expect?

But like I said, Canadian cheerleaders who have no clue about Thai culture or don't even live in Canada will be here shortly.

Good luck,

 

[quebecnewhusband]

No... sorry... it is not an exaggeration at all.... but I am pretty sure someone will be here shortly enough to tell you a fairy tale that you want to hear.

Look, your question was if she can get a good job with her qualifications. The answer is, no she can not.

It also does not help that you are bringing her to Quebec where let's face it... Asians are not loved that much to put it very mildly.

If you want to settle in Canada and do something related to her degree then why not live in Toronto? Banking is pretty big there.

If you want to open a business and do something else that great... but your question was specifically about getting an employment in her field. She wants to do something else? You want to open a business? Great! But that was not your question.

What kind of answer did you really expect?

But like I said, Canadian cheerleaders who have no clue about Thai culture or don't even live in Canada will be here shortly.

Good luck,

I'm sorry, but you're losing all of your credibility here. This is just some prejudice that has absolutely no roots in reality. You're probably reading too much right wing propaganda from francophobic newspaper. I live in Quebec and I have many asian friends that feels as much "loved" as any other Quebecer and who are perfectly integrated.

It's not because you made the choice to live in Thailand with your wife than anyone making a different choice is a heartless moron. Or maybe it's jealousy toward those living what you perceive as "fairy tales"? But who cares? This is not the good forum to start judging people choices based on very little information.

It's great that it's working for you in Thailand. You should keep your advices for those who make the choice to live in Thailand. And please, keep your prejudices for yourself.

Thank you

 

[nthompson]

I'm sorry, but you're losing all of your credibility here. This is just some prejudice that has absolutely no roots in reality. You're probably reading too much right wing propaganda from francophobic newspaper. I live in Quebec and I have many asian friends that feels as much "loved" as any other Quebecer and who are perfectly integrated.

It's not because you made the choice to live in Thailand with your wife than anyone making a different choice is a heartless moron. Or maybe it's jealousy toward those living what you perceive as "fairy tales"? But who cares? This is not the good forum to start judging people choices based on very little information.

It's great that it's working for you in Thailand. You should keep your advices for those who make the choice to live in Thailand. And please, keep your prejudices for yourself.

Thank you

Hi there,

Totally ignore that retard he clearly is a bad apple that you do not want to be taking advice from. There is nothing wrong with what you are doing if she wants to pursue her career in Canada she can. It would make it much easier if you knew anyone in banking which maybe could take her in. If not she will most likely have to start off as a advisor or even volunteer in a bank just to get some Canadian experience.

I'm going to tell you a "Fairy Tale story" as the retard above mentioned. I have a friend who moved to Canada four years ago he was a caretaker which is a non qualified job. Within a year of living in Canada he got a really good job working in finance making $65k a year, what helped him was the connections he made in Canada and his personality as he is really good with his words. So shows there's hope he did not even have a Diploma and if I'm honest with you if the recruiter likes you regardless of what degree she has she will get a job.

Quebec might be abit tough as they prefer you to be fluent in french.

Also it does not matter if your mrs is white,black or asian as long as she has a good heart and a heart to show that she has passion for what she does they will recruit her.

Totally ignore that retard people like him will never achieve anything in life with that kind of atitude. Were here to help and support each other not knock one down to the ground and while there down you stomp on them that's not the way forward and Canadians for sure have open arms from my experience.

 

[quebecnewhusband]

Hi there,

Totally ignore that retard he clearly is a bad apple that you do not want to be taking advice from. There is nothing wrong with what you are doing if she wants to pursue her career in Canada she can. It would make it much easier if you knew anyone in banking which maybe could take her in. If not she will most likely have to start off as a advisor or even volunteer in a bank just to get some Canadian experience.

I'm going to tell you a "Fairy Tale story" as the retard above mentioned. I have a friend who moved to Canada four years ago he was a caretaker which is a non qualified job. Within a year of living in Canada he got a really good job working in finance making $65k a year, what helped him was the connections he made in Canada and his personality as he is really good with his words. So shows there's hope he did not even have a Diploma and if I'm honest with you if the recruiter likes you regardless of what degree she has she will get a job.

Quebec might be abit tough as they prefer you to be fluent in french.

Also it does not matter if your mrs is white,black or asian as long as she has a good heart and a heart to show that she has passion for what she does they will recruit her.

Totally ignore that retard people like him will never achieve anything in life with that kind of atitude. Were here to help and support each other not knock one down to the ground and while there down you stomp on them that's not the way forward and Canadians for sure have open arms from my experience.

Thank you very much for that more respectful and helpful point of view. ;-)

I do have an indirect contact in the banking industry : the person who takes care of the hiring for one of the largest bank in Quebec. I will definitely use that contact if needed.

The French factor is obviously one more obstacle, but we plan to use the ±15 months it should take for her to get her PR from inland to follow intensive French classes. Also, since we'll be living in Montreal, we might be looking at jobs in the West Island, where French is probably less mandatory in some fields. But anyway : my family and friends are mostly French speaking, and I will strongly encourage her to learn. To be fair, I'm also in the process of learning Thai. And I hope ours kids can later speak the 3 languages!

 

[scylla]

Being located in Toronto would give her the highest chances of being hired in her field since this is the banking capital of Canada and also where Scotiabank's headquarters are located (including their international banking division).

I agree that focusing on learning French is probably the best place for her to spend time now.

Good luck.

 

[mrbeachman]

Hi there,

Totally ignore that retard he clearly is a bad apple that you do not want to be taking advice from. There is nothing wrong with what you are doing if she wants to pursue her career in Canada she can. It would make it much easier if you knew anyone in banking which maybe could take her in. If not she will most likely have to start off as a advisor or even volunteer in a bank just to get some Canadian experience.

I'm going to tell you a "Fairy Tale story" as the retard above mentioned. I have a friend who moved to Canada four years ago he was a caretaker which is a non qualified job. Within a year of living in Canada he got a really good job working in finance making $65k a year, what helped him was the connections he made in Canada and his personality as he is really good with his words. So shows there's hope he did not even have a Diploma and if I'm honest with you if the recruiter likes you regardless of what degree she has she will get a job.

Quebec might be abit tough as they prefer you to be fluent in french.

Also it does not matter if your mrs is white,black or asian as long as she has a good heart and a heart to show that she has passion for what she does they will recruit her.

Totally ignore that retard people like him will never achieve anything in life with that kind of atitude. Were here to help and support each other not knock one down to the ground and while there down you stomp on them that's not the way forward and Canadians for sure have open arms from my experience.

I don't know who the retard is, but you apparently come from UK, yet you can't string 2 sentences together.

At least put a bit of an effort if you want to sound more credible.

As for not achieving anything in my life, how do you know? How can you possibly know anything? Your example of "I have a friend" means absolutely nothing on internet forums. I also know a guy who does not even have a high school and is a millionaire. What does this have to do with a question? Personally I think your post is a lie just because you want to crap on my point of view which is a legitimate point of view. The OP will of course think you are a god because you just told him what he wants to hear which is OK.

Anyway... my prejudice about Quebec totally stands as I have spent 15 years in Montreal and 5 in Toronto. I also own a Condo in downtown Toronto, so I guess that does not make me a total loser. I guess we should not get too political about the province in which it is prohibited to speak English in the workplace. I hope OP's wife knows that.

Like I said OP.... good luck.... you will need it.

 

[quebecnewhusband]

I don't know who the retard is, but you apparently come from UK, yet you can't string 2 sentences together.

At least put a bit of an effort if you want to sound more credible.

The OP will of course think you are a god because you just told him what he wants to hear which is OK.

Anyway... my prejudice about Quebec totally stands as I have spent 15 years in Montreal and 5 in Toronto, but let's not get to political about the province in which it is prohibited to speak English in the workplace. I hope your wife knows that.

Like I said.... good luck.... you will need it.

You''re obviously a very frustrated dude and a blatant Quebec hater, but I just can't let you spread lies about my home province. It's absolutely not prohibited to speak English in the workplace. The only things the law says is that French should be the main language in which official documents are published in workplaces that have 50 employees and more. Basically, it makes French the official language for larger workplaces. It doesn't prohibit other languages at all. And guess what : French is the only official language in the province of Quebec. Do you think a company could operate at 100% in Turkish language in France? Nope. Same in Quebec.

Now, please stop hijacking my thread to spread your hate and prejudices. And I think you should stop publishing malicious disinformation on a forum where people have many uncertainties and are seeking accurate information.

 

[mrbeachman]

It is not a lie about "your home province".

It is absolutely prohibited for businesses to use English.

There is such thing as Language Police where undercover language inspectors go around restaurants and fine people for using pasta on their menus.

In many Canadian forums it has been pointed out how STCUM fare collectors refuse to sell you OPUS card if you don't speak English. It has also been documented on CBC that you get punched in the face if you speak English to STCUM fare collectors in Montreal.

English is practically BANNED from public displays in Quebec. There are more English signs in Thailand then in Westmount.

Like someone else mentioned, Toronto would have been much better place for your wife regarding the industry she is in.

Again.... good luck.

 

[quebecnewhusband]

It is not a lie about "your home province".

It is absolutely prohibited for businesses to use English.

There is such thing as Language Police where undercover language inspectors go around restaurants and fine people for using pasta on their menus.

In many Canadian forums it has been pointed out how STCUM fare collectors refuse to sell you OPUS card if you don't speak English. It has also been documented on CBC that you get punched in the face if you speak English to STCUM fare collectors in Montreal.

English is practically BANNED from public displays in Quebec. There are more English signs in Thailand then in Westmount.

Like someone else mentioned, Toronto would have been much better place for your wife regarding the industry she is in.

Again.... good luck.

Good job using 2 or 3 news items from the past 10 years that have been blown out of proportion by a few francophobic newspapers in Canada.

For the last time, please stop spreading lies and hijacking my thread which is about a completely different subject. We all understood that you hate Quebec with passion. Point made. Now for the last time, get out of this thread. Please. If you want to convince people that Quebec is the new nazi Germany, then open your own thread about it and please stop harrassing people and hijacking other's threads.

Intelligent and respectful posters are welcome.

 

[mrbeachman]

This is exactly what I am doing.

Warning other people against this fascist province as everything I stated is a 100% fact.

Simply ignore my posts.

Again, good luck

 

[quebecnewhusband]

This is exactly what I am doing.

Warning other people against this fascist province as everything I stated is a 100% fact.

Simply ignore my posts.

Again, good luck

I don't need to add anything here, since your posts are doing more harm to your own credibility than anything else. It tells a lot about someone's ignorance when this person doesn't know the weight and the historical meaning of words, and cannot make arguments without using extreme examples without any nuance. Please warn us again when the purges are starting. :-[

 

[mrbeachman]

It should be a huge red flag to anyone moving to Quebec just for the fact that there is such thing as the Language Police snooping into other people's legitimate businesses and punishing them for using a bit of English (or any other language besides French).

Another red flag should obviously be that children (unless they both come from English speaking parents) are NOT allowed to go into English schools. No other province has such primitive laws.

The fact that the party in power is a Separatist party whose leader when losing a referendum in 1995 said that they lost because of ethnic votes should be another huge red flag for your wife and children.

The fact that Canada even allows this is beyond outrageous.

Although people of Quebec are quite friendly and very tolerant (I would say way more friendly than the people in Toronto) that has nothing to do with the fascist government they constantly elect. There is a reason why all the banks moved from Montreal to Toronto. Please read this again.... there is a reason why all the banks and businesses moved from Montreal to Toronto.

Good luck. You will need it.