Awaiting PNC non-EE PR application - PGWP about to expire

[dwcho]

Hello all,

I need some advice.

Current situation is:

• OINP nominated (employer job offer stream)
• PNC non-EE PR application submitted (recently - so no AOR yet)
• PGWP about to expire (in 9 days .. )
• Found out way too late that I am not eligible for BOWP because of the employer restriction on my OINP nomination
• Have asked my employer to submit the job offer on the IRCC Employer Portal and pay the compliance fee (it's a big company so there seems to be a lot of bureaucracy involved)
• If and when they do, I'll submit it along with the OINP work permit support letter in my application for the new closed work permit to await the approval of my PR application

My questions are:

1. If the company decides that they will not support me for the closed work permit, what are my options?
   • Will this mean that I lose my status, then my job, then my nomination, then the PR application as well?
2. Is there something I can provide the company with that will convince them to do this?
3. Is there something that I am possibly missing - another possible rout, maybe?
4. As a last resort, if I apply for a visitor record to remain in Canada with status, will I need to report the change to OINP and IRCC - which will inevitably flush everything down the drain?

Thank you in advance for any and all advice!

 

[scylla]

Hello all,

I need some advice.

Current situation is:

• OINP nominated (employer job offer stream)
• PNC non-EE PR application submitted (recently - so no AOR yet)
• PGWP about to expire (in 9 days .. )
• Found out way too late that I am not eligible for BOWP because of the employer restriction on my OINP nomination
• Have asked my employer to submit the job offer on the IRCC Employer Portal and pay the compliance fee (it's a big company so there seems to be a lot of bureaucracy involved)
• If and when they do, I'll submit it along with the OINP work permit support letter in my application for the new closed work permit to await the approval of my PR application

My questions are:

1. If the company decides that they will not support me for the closed work permit, what are my options?
   • Will this mean that I lose my status, then my job, then my nomination, then the PR application as well?
2. Is there something I can provide the company with that will convince them to do this?
3. Is there something that I am possibly missing - another possible rout, maybe?
4. As a last resort, if I apply for a visitor record to remain in Canada with status, will I need to report the change to OINP and IRCC - which will inevitably flush everything down the drain?

Thank you in advance for any and all advice!

I would apply for the visitor record now regardless. That way you give yourself insurance now that you hopefully won't fall out of status in Canada.

With a large company, there generally isn't anything you can do to convince them to go through the process. They will either be able to do it per HR policies or they won't be. Larger companies are generally more restricted in what they can do. If HR policies prevent it, then there won't be anything you can do to change that. I would push to get that answer as soon as you can.

 

[dwcho]

I would apply for the visitor record now regardless. That way you give yourself insurance now that you hopefully won't fall out of status in Canada.

With a large company, there generally isn't anything you can do to convince them to go through the process. They will either be able to do it per HR policies or they won't be. Larger companies are generally more restricted in what they can do. If HR policies prevent it, then there won't be anything you can do to change that. I would push to get that answer as soon as you can.

Hi Scylla,

Thanks for the advice.
But once I apply for visitor record and my PGWP expires, what does it mean for my PR application?

 

[scylla]

Hi Scylla,

Thanks for the advice.
But once I apply for visitor record and my PGWP expires, what does it mean for my PR application?

You have to continue to be employed by that employer until your application is approved. Your application is dependent on this. If you end up on visitor status for a short period of time but are then able to moved back to a closed work permit with the support of your current employer, then I think you would be fine. If not, then you would need to find a new employer quite quickly who is willing to support the nomination and then you would need to update all of the paperwork with IRCC to switch over to that new employer.

You need to notify OINP immediately if there is any change in your employment.

 

[Miss bee]

Hi Scylla,

Thanks for the advice.
But once I apply for visitor record and my PGWP expires, what does it mean for my PR application?

You have to notify PNP office that your status changed to visitor and you have to meet conditions of your nomination which is you have to keep working with your employer until you get PR . Unfortunately you have to talk to HR and tell them how this employer portal and compliance fees works .

 

[dwcho]

You have to continue to be employed by that employer until your application is approved. Your application is dependent on this. If you end up on visitor status for a short period of time but are then able to moved back to a closed work permit with the support of your current employer, then I think you would be fine. If not, then you would need to find a new employer quite quickly who is willing to support the nomination and then you would need to update all of the paperwork with IRCC to switch over to that new employer.

You need to notify OINP immediately if there is any change in your employment.

Understood.
Thanks for the insight!

 

[dwcho]

You have to notify PNP office that your status changed to visitor and you have to meet conditions of your nomination which is you have to keep working with your employer until you get PR . Unfortunately you have to talk to HR and tell them how this employer portal and compliance fees works .

Thanks for the advice, Miss Bee
Well noted!

 

[dwcho]

You have to notify PNP office that your status changed to visitor and you have to meet conditions of your nomination which is you have to keep working with your employer until you get PR . Unfortunately you have to talk to HR and tell them how this employer portal and compliance fees works .

Hi Miss Bee,

A bit of an update on this situation.
The company has agreed to support me with the closed work permit by registering the job offer on the Employer Portal and paying the compliance fee.
However, they are running into an error message when attempting to enroll in the portal.
In lieu of it, I have advised that they can request the form 5802 to manually fill out so I can submit with my application.
All this is happening just days before the expiry of my current work permit (October 14th)

I have a question.

If the company isn't able to provide something (either a successful job offer on Employer Portal or the completed Form 5802) by tomorrow, Friday, I'm thinking of submitting my application without the Employer Portal job offer number and include a letter of explanation outlining this situation. I have asked that my company provide a letter explaining their intention of supporting my work permit as well as the issues they have been having with enrollment on the portal.
And then once they are able to get the technical issues sorted out, I will immediately upload it to supplement my application via the IRCC webform. And then hope for the best.

What do you think of this plan?
I don't want to go out of status just because of some technical difficulty.

 

[Miss bee]

Hi Miss Bee,

A bit of an update on this situation.
The company has agreed to support me with the closed work permit by registering the job offer on the Employer Portal and paying the compliance fee.
However, they are running into an error message when attempting to enroll in the portal.
In lieu of it, I have advised that they can request the form 5802 to manually fill out so I can submit with my application.
All this is happening just days before the expiry of my current work permit (October 14th)

I have a question.

If the company isn't able to provide something (either a successful job offer on Employer Portal or the completed Form 5802) by tomorrow, Friday, I'm thinking of submitting my application without the Employer Portal job offer number and include a letter of explanation outlining this situation. I have asked that my company provide a letter explaining their intention of supporting my work permit as well as the issues they have been having with enrollment on the portal.
And then once they are able to get the technical issues sorted out, I will immediately upload it to supplement my application via the IRCC webform. And then hope for the best.

What do you think of this plan?
I don't want to go out of status just because of some technical difficulty.

I don’t think so it will work as submitting job offer is mandatory. To reset employer portal there is email where you request them to reset portal and in include CRA business number and employer name, address and business Information. In subject line of email type Reset Portal and then send it . It will take 4-5 business days .
if you couldn’t do anything before October 14., submit work permit application without submitting job offer to get some extra time and then figure out employer portal thing and later submit receipt of payment and job offer to update CIC through webform .

 

[dwcho]

I don’t think so it will work as submitting job offer is mandatory. To reset employer portal there is email where you request them to reset portal and in include CRA business number and employer name, address and business Information. In subject line of email type Reset Portal and then send it . It will take 4-5 business days .
if you couldn’t do anything before October 14., submit work permit application without submitting job offer to get some extra time and then figure out employer portal thing and later submit receipt of payment and job offer to update CIC through webform .

Thanks for your reply, Miss Bee
I think we are saying the same thing.

My plan is to submit the new application WITHOUT the job offer and uploading it later through webform as soon as my company gets it resolved.

Right?

 

[Miss bee]

Thanks for your reply, Miss Bee
I think we are saying the same thing.

My plan is to submit the new application WITHOUT the job offer and uploading it later through webform as soon as my company gets it resolved.

Right?

Yes . Apply now without submitting job offer and then figure out employer portal asap and update CIC through webform .

 

[dwcho]

Yes . Apply now without submitting job offer and then figure out employer portal asap and update CIC through webform .

Thanks for the advice as always!
God bless!

 

[KRZD]

My biometric and medical passed on Sep 20th. The background check shows that your application is in progress. We will send you a message when we start your background check. I don't know my previous status. What is the reason for this kind of status?