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ATIP physical file missing files.

seafay

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Mar 27, 2014
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Hi,
Recently I have applyed to get my physical file for my pr application from ATIP. What I got back is only a copy of my application form in 2008. There is no copy of the job offer, salary, or bank statement, nothing.
I also applied for the sponsorship application, but I only got a withdraw request for the physical file. There is even no application form.

What happened to my file?

I'm wondering what have they gone? They have been destroyed or the officer just didn't give me a complete copy of my physical file?

Thank you!
 

lellen

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Mar 20, 2014
398
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Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
June 11 2014
AOR Received.
(SA) August 7 2014
File Transfer...
August 21 2014
Med's Done....
May 29 2014
Passport Req..
December 24 2014
VISA ISSUED...
January 2 2015
LANDED..........
17-02-2015
I'm sorry, I don't understand your question. What do you mean ATIP? How did you get a "withdrawal request for the physical file"? Who "gave" you that request?

Are you saying that you requested to have your application sent back to you and they did? When did you request it and how long did it take for them to send something back? I requested that too but I never heard anything.
 

seafay

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Mar 27, 2014
114
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Oh someone helped me to send several request to get the notes and also the physical files for all my application including my pr and the withdrawn sponsorship application. It took a month. They emailed me back the files, but what's in the physical file is not what I expected.
 

rhcohen2014

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Apr 6, 2014
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Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
March 17, 2014
Doc's Request.
April 11, 2014
AOR Received.
May 8, 2014
File Transfer...
May 9, 2014
Med's Request
upfront
Med's Done....
Nov 15, 2013
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
July 15, 2014
VISA ISSUED...
July 25, 2014/ received August 1, 2014
LANDED..........
August 29, 2014
lellen said:
I'm sorry, I don't understand your question. What do you mean ATIP? How did you get a "withdrawal request for the physical file"? Who "gave" you that request?
ATIP=GSCM as far as this forum is concerned. it's the file notes for the application. while the application is submitted, it's always best to get them electronic. after approval, it's ok to request the physical file.
 

lellen

Hero Member
Mar 20, 2014
398
17
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
June 11 2014
AOR Received.
(SA) August 7 2014
File Transfer...
August 21 2014
Med's Done....
May 29 2014
Passport Req..
December 24 2014
VISA ISSUED...
January 2 2015
LANDED..........
17-02-2015
Oh so you can request your application back after it has been approved? But how is that related to the notes?


Sorry I'm asking so many questions, this really concerns me because two days ago a guy from the call centre told me that unless they get denied, applications are shred...
 

rhcohen2014

VIP Member
Apr 6, 2014
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185
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
March 17, 2014
Doc's Request.
April 11, 2014
AOR Received.
May 8, 2014
File Transfer...
May 9, 2014
Med's Request
upfront
Med's Done....
Nov 15, 2013
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
July 15, 2014
VISA ISSUED...
July 25, 2014/ received August 1, 2014
LANDED..........
August 29, 2014
lellen said:
Oh so you can request your application back after it has been approved? But how is that related to the notes?


Sorry I'm asking so many questions, this really concerns me because two days ago a guy from the call centre told me that unless they get denied, applications are shred...
the "notes" are an electronic version of how the file is being processed. in the file, visa officers may handwrite notes as it relates to approval. these handwritten remarks most likely do not get related in the electronic version, as it only gives the information that has been electronically entered by the visa office (as far as i understand it.). yes, it's possible to requst the hard copy of these notes and the file, it's just never recommended to do this during processing as it's suggested it will have a negative impact on the file. requsting electronic notes doesn't affect the processing. perhaps the files are shredded, and what is in the physical file is only relatd to the processing, not the actual application.

there's no reason to have concern over this.
 

lellen

Hero Member
Mar 20, 2014
398
17
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
June 11 2014
AOR Received.
(SA) August 7 2014
File Transfer...
August 21 2014
Med's Done....
May 29 2014
Passport Req..
December 24 2014
VISA ISSUED...
January 2 2015
LANDED..........
17-02-2015
Ooohhhhhh now I understand. Thank you very much,

I thought we were talking about THE WHOLE APPLICATION, not the notes.

I didn't know this, thank you so much for clarifying.
 

lellen

Hero Member
Mar 20, 2014
398
17
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
June 11 2014
AOR Received.
(SA) August 7 2014
File Transfer...
August 21 2014
Med's Done....
May 29 2014
Passport Req..
December 24 2014
VISA ISSUED...
January 2 2015
LANDED..........
17-02-2015
rhcohen2014 said:
there's no reason to have concern over this.
What I meant with "concern" was that I'm asking questions because it is related to something I'm interested in, that is, getting my application package back, therefore it concerns me. I'm not worried or anything, thanks for your explanation!
 

rhcohen2014

VIP Member
Apr 6, 2014
4,935
185
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
March 17, 2014
Doc's Request.
April 11, 2014
AOR Received.
May 8, 2014
File Transfer...
May 9, 2014
Med's Request
upfront
Med's Done....
Nov 15, 2013
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
July 15, 2014
VISA ISSUED...
July 25, 2014/ received August 1, 2014
LANDED..........
August 29, 2014
lellen said:
What I meant with "concern" was that I'm asking questions because it is related to something I'm interested in, that is, getting my application package back, therefore it concerns me. I'm not worried or anything, thanks for your explanation!
oh. yes, usually when i read the word "concern" on this forum, it's related to being worried. i also understand the other meaning of concern. my apologies. :)
 

seafay

Star Member
Mar 27, 2014
114
4
oh thank you guys I may understand why I only have a copy of my application form when I ask for physical file. The others may got shred (based on your replies)...I was trying to get a copy of all my documents many years ago but it seems impossible now..
 

Alurra71

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Oct 5, 2012
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Ontario
Visa Office......
Vegreville
App. Filed.......
07-12-2012
AOR Received.
21-01-2013
Interview........
waived
VISA ISSUED...
28-11-2013
LANDED..........
19-12-2013
seafay said:
Hi,
Recently I have applyed to get my physical file for my pr application from ATIP. What I got back is only a copy of my application form in 2008. There is no copy of the job offer, salary, or bank statement, nothing.
I also applied for the sponsorship application, but I only got a withdraw request for the physical file. There is even no application form.

What happened to my file?

I'm wondering what have they gone? They have been destroyed or the officer just didn't give me a complete copy of my physical file?

Thank you!
You would not be 'privy' to getting the sponsors information unless you are the sponsor anyway. The other documents you are referencing were supporting documents that may or may not have been returned to you. That would depend on whether they were requested at the time of sponsor withdrawal or if they were originals or photocopies.
 

dbss

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Jun 22, 2012
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if you withdraw your file, they send it for shredding....the file that gets you approved gets archived in some location...

Source: Applied under FSW and CEC. FSW went through (stored in archives) and CEC was destroyed by CPP-O.