Hello members, can an asylum claim be rejected at the POE? Where's it much better to claim from? Within or at the POE?
ASYLUM CLAIM
- Thread starter Martin the king
- Start date
It could be rejected at the POE if, for example, you don't meet the safe third country agreement. However I think the same is true of within Canada claims so I don't think it makes much difference.
Are they arriving at a Canadian airport? Do
They already have a TRV? If you are not a Kenyan citizen but are living in Kenya it can be quite difficult to get a TRV because you can’t prove ties to your home country. Have you consulted with a Canadian immigration attorney about whether you have a strong case for asylum? Applying for asylum has longterm consequences if approved or refused and should always be the last resort. All other things economic pathways should be considered first. Even if approved your family members may have difficulty visiting you in Canada, have difficulty securing any temporary permit (WP or SP), etc.
Last edited:
You already have a TRV? Your application must have been very strong to get approved which could mean getting asylum may be difficult which is why I would suggest consulting with a Canadian immigration lawyer before submitting any claim. Have you explored economic immigration programs to see if you qualify? What is your home country citizenship and your grounds for seeking asylum. For example if you are part of the LGBTQIA+ population (and have concrete proof that you are part of the community and are Ugandan whiteout permanent status in Kenya that would be grounds for seeking asylum. If you are Ugandan and are seeking a better life then that is unlikely to get you approved for asylum. If you are Somalian living in Kenya I would imagine it would bequite hard to get a TRV. If someone has provided you with an invitation letter and you claim asylum they may have difficulty inviting other people in the future because IRCC will be worried that other people will also claim asylum.
TRV is available. It's a tourist visa. Am no LGBTQIA but perceived to be since am working closely with them.
I have seen multiple people claiming to be working closely with the LGBTQIA+ population as a reason for needing asylum. They all come from a certain region of Africa. At least one applicant has had their asylum claim recently put on hold for credibility reasons. I assume this may be the newest story that asylum seekers are being coached to say. If this is the case the government seems to caught on because a large volume of applicants are giving the same story and if this is a lie you will be caught and denied asylum. You also must have had very strong ties to Uganda, a good amount of personal savings, a record of travel history outside Canada to places like the US, UK, etc. and have longterm good employment to have received a TRV. Getting a TRV is not easy. If you falsified any of these documents that will also likely be an issue.
If you aren’t lying I apologize but there are too many similar recent stories that are so similar that it raises tons of red flags and it makes sense why some cases are being pursued by the minister for credibility concerns. If you are lying there will be longterm serious consequences including a good chance of being deported and struggling to travel to many other countries longterm. Canada shares their immigration information with many countries.
I think everything is assessed and all decisions are based on evidence. I don't think anyone would ask for asylum because they are poor in their reasons. Having strong ties at home and every good profile doesn't exempt anyone from having their right to claim. For your information the anti homosexuality bill in uganda has been passed into law and you think people are just coached to say realty?
Working closely with LGBTQ can not be an issue as long as someone can clearly demonstrate with evidences that he has really worked with them
There are tons of false claims either personally organized or through organized crime. There have been cases where many people have repeated the same stories down to the names of the people. When people want a better life many people are willing to lie. There are no shortage of true stories but there are a significant amount of false stories some get caught while others do not. If you have proof and you actually did what your proof says then you will likely be fine. There are elaborate schemes with false documents as well. I find it strange that I have seen around 5 cases with similar stories from central Africa in the past year after not encountering the same reason for asylum before then. I am aware what has happened in Uganda but Uganda has not been a hospitable place for theLGBTQIA+ for a long time which is a shame since it was once the leading in things like HIV testing. I remember there were signs everywhere about HIV testing and Uganda was considered a model nation when it came to HIV testing and treatment. At least southern Uganda was the northern region was very lawless when I was there.
It so happens that way. If people can risk to spend months on an overloaded boat on the sea just to get to Europe then all is possible. And most of them are successful with even their lies.
Would beg to differ. Ask many who have crossed over on the boats how they are doing. Many either don’t have papers or are living on minimal income. Getting to Europe doesn’t assure a good life especially in the past few years. Unfortunately many lie and report that they are living the good life while actually living on a farm in deplorable conditions being paid almost nothing doing hard manual labour.
That's true and now returning home where they claim are threatened becomes hard even when they would prefer that.