arriving by plane vs arriving by car

[Hoogenband]

By the time my PR card expires in 18 months' time, I will have less than 730 days residence in Canada. I am not currently in Canada. Yet I understand from this forum that, if I can get into Canada before my card expires, I can 'sit tight', not leave the country, and wait until I have been there for 730 days of the previous 5 years. Then I will be eligible for another PR card.
Anyway, clearly, the problem will be getting into Canada. At the border, surely it will be apparent that I will not be able to meet the 2 year requirement without overstaying my present card. So how should I proceed? A couple of times in the past 3 years, I have flown into Vancouver and inserted my PR card into a machine, if I remember right. But now, surely, it won't work any more, the machine will reject my card and an agent will be called over. Then I'll be in trouble. I don't have compelling reasons for not being in Canada, just work.

Am I any better driving into Canada, perhaps going through some very remote, minor border crossing, where the technology is not so great? Which option gives me more chance of success?





thanks
Hoogenband

 

[Alurra71]

If you have not met your RO there is no place to cross that you will have more success than any other. You put yourself at risk of being reported for not meeting RO by not living in Canada. Your chances are the same as all of the other PR's who put themselves into this very same position. You can return to Canada on your valid PR card and you will either be reported for not meeting your RO and then have to fight to keep your PR or you won't be reported and you can remain in Canada for the required amount of time to meet your RO and renew. Just remember, that even after you renew your card, every time you leave Canada, you must be able to look back 5 years from that date you leave and have no less than 730 days in Canada and the entire time you are gone, you must have 730 days looking back 5 years. Every time you don't meet that requirement, you are at risk of RO breach.

I would be curious though. When did you actually land? Was it more than 5 years ago or not quite 5 years ago?

 

[Hoogenband]

thanks for the info. I landed about 3 and a half years ago.

So, I presume then, do they have a computer that tells how many days you have been in Canada? Or do they look at your passport? But next year I will need a new passport.

 

[Alurra71]

thanks for the info. I landed about 3 and a half years ago.

So, I presume then, do they have a computer that tells how many days you have been in Canada? Or do they look at your passport? But next year I will need a new passport.

No, they don't know how many days, but they will ask you how many you have been out and it's up to you to prove you have been IN, not them to prove you have been out. If that makes any sense. They will know when you last left the country though so don't try to lie to them and tell them it was recent

 

[Msafiri]

....Am I any better driving into Canada, perhaps going through some very remote, minor border crossing, where the technology is not so great? Which option gives me more chance of success?

thanks Hoogenband

Returning immediately and being honest with the border agents if you will be living in Canada but if its just to visit with a departure again so you can return to your employment why bother?

 

[Aruma]

CBSA or CIC don,t know when you left Canada because they don,t stamp "Exit" on your passport not do they maintain any record of Exists from Canada although they maintain record of Entry.

No, they don't know how many days, but they will ask you how many you have been out and it's up to you to prove you have been IN, not them to prove you have been out. If that makes any sense. They will know when you last left the country though so don't try to lie to them and tell them it was recent

 

[keesio]

CBSA or CIC don,t know when you left Canada because they don,t stamp "Exit" on your passport not do they maintain any record of Exists from Canada although they maintain record of Entry.

Unless you exit by driving to the US. CBSA and US Border Services share data now so CBSA can get information on exits to the US.

 

[Sydkadra]

Dear All
I am also in the same boat of not meeting the 730 day stay-in-Canada. Now with still a valid PR card until March 2015, I want to enter again Canada with my family ( including school going child) and stay there in Canada for a period which can then fulfill the 730-day period for renewal of my PR card with leaving Canada again until the renewal of the PR. Previous stay in Canada made approx 100 days which could be added to my stay for the period which is to be required for making 730-day requirement at the time of application for renewal.
My question is how can enter the Canada without being noticed of not meeting the PR obligations. Is it better to use the Bus from US ( say New York to Toronto) and enter into Canada or arrive in Canada by Airlines and enter into through the Toronto Airport.
If at either of the above mentioned border crossings, if I am noticed of not meeting the PR obligations, then, what are the chances of being reported filling int form 41 by the Immigration officials and if they do, how long it will take to appeal it.
My position is that I am going to Canada this time to stay there permanently for my Child's education and not leaving Canada at all, however, if I am noticed at the airport or land border crossing and reported for not making the PR obligation, then, I don't want to stay at all and leave Canada permanently not even going through the process of appeals etcc.
Now, I need very pertinent feedback from the readers of the forum from their and or their friends' experiences which will guide me to decide how to avoid being reported by Border Authorities.

Thank you very much for your time.

 

[keesio]

NO one can tell you of your chances. It all depends on the CBSA official you encounter. But with a non-expired PR card, I'd say your chances are pretty decent..