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Are paystubs completely necessary??

dandin

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Hi. I'm getting ready to submit my application. I have aquired over 2 years work experience under an accepted NOC. I have my 2012 NOA, T4, complete letters of reference fully dated with all required information, IELTS and PCC. I'm all set to go.
Is it necessary to provide paystubs also?
Thanks for your input.
 

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Re: Are paystubs completely necassary??

paystubs are not necessary, they are optional. They are useful for people who are paid on an hourly basis (vs. salary), or those who work variable hours.

If you are paid a salary, don't worry about them.
 

dandin

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Re: Are paystubs completely necassary??

I am paid a salary, not by the hour, and this is reflected in my letter of reference. This process is stressful. Thanks for your reply!
 

broiler

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Re: Are paystubs completely necassary??

jes_ON said:
paystubs are not necessary, they are optional. They are useful for people who are paid on an hourly basis (vs. salary), or those who work variable hours.

If you are paid a salary, don't worry about them.
I'm paid by the hour but my NOA shows a total income that if i divide by 52 it works out to average 35-40 hours a week. I also have been working for 21 months now, would it be ok just with the ref letter, t4 and noa? The application says nothing about paystubs.
 

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dandin said:
Hi. I'm getting ready to submit my application. I have aquired over 2 years work experience under an accepted NOC. I have my 2012 NOA, T4, complete letters of reference fully dated with all required information, IELTS and PCC. I'm all set to go.
Is it necessary to provide paystubs also?
Thanks for your input.
I am also in the process of getting prepared to send out my application for CEC PR and I completely agree that it is a very stressful process. And, what JES_ON has recommended is right! But, what I have done it, I have already made sure that I have all my PAYSTUBS in perfect order in a case they want to see it at any time in the future.

On the document checklist, it is said that these documents (PAYSTUBS and CONTRACTS OF EMPLOYMENT) are only additional documents. If your letter of reference is perfectly in place then you do not need to send these additional documents.

Hope that this helps
 

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The other time that paystubs are useful is if you're applying early in the year and don't have a T4 (yet) that covers the majority of your experience.
 

dandin

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Thanks for your replies guys. Anything to help ease the stress of this process is a great help! I must admit that I have read some horror stories on here and any good news is more than welcome.
 

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Re: Are paystubs completely necassary??

broiler said:
I'm paid by the hour but my NOA shows a total income that if i divide by 52 it works out to average 35-40 hours a week. I also have been working for 21 months now, would it be ok just with the ref letter, t4 and noa?
That depends on a few things. First, do you work the same hours every week? What does your letter of reference say in terms of hours worked? Do you work 20 hours one week, 60 hours another week, 0 another?

If your hours are fixed, then it may be OK, esp. with nearly 2 years of work. But you would have to be sure that the info in your letter of reference (hourly wage * Hours worked per week) is generally consistent with the T4....
 

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Re: Are paystubs completely necassary??

jes_ON said:
That depends on a few things. First, do you work the same hours every week? What does your letter of reference say in terms of hours worked? Do you work 20 hours one week, 60 hours another week, 0 another?

If your hours are fixed, then it may be OK, esp. with nearly 2 years of work. But you would have to be sure that the info in your letter of reference (hourly wage * Hours worked per week) is generally consistent with the T4....
My letter reference will be stated as full time employee (I guess 30 hours a week fulltime), my hours vary from 25-40 hours a week. Though over the past year I have been getting usually over 30 hours a week. I myself have been working for a period of 18 months as a baker.
 

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dandin said:
Hi. I'm getting ready to submit my application. I have aquired over 2 years work experience under an accepted NOC. I have my 2012 NOA, T4, complete letters of reference fully dated with all required information, IELTS and PCC. I'm all set to go.
Is it necessary to provide paystubs also?
Thanks for your input.
I included my last paystub in my application to better support my current salary, as the notice of assessment would be from the last year's tax year (in my case, I was given a substantive raise towards the end of the previous year). As such, the paystub was there as proof of income for the salary after the NOA. It is of course optional, but in my case I thought it added value to my application.
 

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I'm planning on applying under CEC in August 2013. I started working august 2012 and i have my 2012 t4 and NOA. should I
submit my t4, noa together with 2013 paystubs to proof the 12 months from august 2012 to august 2013? Or
is the letter from my employer proof enough?
 

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iam_toby said:
I'm planning on applying under CEC in August 2013. I started working august 2012 and i have my 2012 t4 and NOA. should I
submit my t4, noa together with 2013 paystubs to proof the 12 months from august 2012 to august 2013? Or
is the letter from my employer proof enough?
You should provide your most recent pay stub for 2013 which will outline your earnings for 2013 to date. No need to provide them all! :)
 

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seton said:
I included my last paystub in my application to better support my current salary, as the notice of assessment would be from the last year's tax year (in my case, I was given a substantive raise towards the end of the previous year). As such, the paystub was there as proof of income for the salary after the NOA. It is of course optional, but in my case I thought it added value to my application.
Hi Seton,

Did you have to send in your NOA for the next year once you received it? Or were the "old" NOA and recent pay stubs sufficient? I am asking because I only had the 2011 NOA at the time of application, and I added the 2012 T4 and several pay stubs throughout my employment (including the latest month).

I did receive my AOR, was just curious if they will ask for the 2012 NOA at some point.
 

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LCM21 said:
Hi Seton,

Did you have to send in your NOA for the next year once you received it? Or were the "old" NOA and recent pay stubs sufficient? I am asking because I only had the 2011 NOA at the time of application, and I added the 2012 T4 and several pay stubs throughout my employment (including the latest month).

I did receive my AOR, was just curious if they will ask for the 2012 NOA at some point.
Nope, I did not send an updated NOA or was I requested to send one in.