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Yoka19

Newbie
Nov 22, 2020
4
1
@legalfalcon my application is still in progress and I recently renewed my passport and sent a scanned copy through a web form but received no confirmation or reply. Is there any way by which I can make sure that the updated passport copy has been incorporated into my application ?
Thanks as always for the help,
 
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Sitrarose

Hero Member
Feb 5, 2021
243
45
Hello everyone,
Is there any one here who has submitted application on late March 2020 and already received COPR email?

Thanks,
 

ee.cec1981

Member
Nov 4, 2020
12
5
43
Toronto
Category........
CEC
Job Offer........
Yes
AOR Received.
28-April-2020
Hi All,

My AOR is 28th April 2020 and based on GCMS Notes which I received on 27th Oct, my eligibility status is Review Required.
I tried contacting multiple times to CIC but since October eligibility status is same. I sent additional documents through WebForm though it was not asked.
Even after I sent documents no change in eligibility status.

Is there anyone with similar situation like Review Required on Eligibility.

@legalfalcon My file is stuck on Eligibility after my medical on 16th September, Could you please advice if RR is concerning for me and is there a way I can address it.


=== GCMS Notes ===
Assessments
Eligibility : Review Required
Security: Not started
Criminality : In Process
Medical : Passed
Info Sharing : Complete
-------------
Notes : 1
Label : EE Eligibility
Office : Centralized Intake Office
Text: A11.2- Case Processing Agent : Lock-in-date:2020-04-28--"***Name***"_EE CEC having analyzed this application based on the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file, I make the following recommendation.
----------------------A11.2
Review Required R87.1; CEC Minimum Requirements - Review Required Review Required for Duties on employment letter compared to NOC Website, Refer to EDOC: 374250501 Ready to Finalize RPRF : Complete
-----------------------------
Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS) CRS Score at Invitation to apply (ITA) 479 CRS points minimum score for round:467 CRS score at Application (APR) : 479 Total CRS Points Assessed : 429 /Verified CRS score : 429 I have reviewed the following for CRS points : Qualifying Job Offer : LMIA exempted under C12; Letter dated 2019-04-03 confirms employment offer of at least one year. eDOC#374250500 PA gained points as Married at ITA and APR PA gained points for 4 years Canadian Work Experience with "Company Name", edoc#374250137.
===========
 

nousername2020

Hero Member
Jul 24, 2020
393
94
Your update made me excited for a moment too @nousername2020 as our applications are almost duplicate. Alas, the wait continues!
No changes for me :(
when did your medical expired? is it extended?

i dont know if i should go proactively to give medical or wait more for it.

did you also got ghost update this monday?
 
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pbhanot

Star Member
Nov 15, 2019
149
90
No changes for me :(
when did your medical expired? is it extended?

i dont know if i should go proactively to give medical or wait more for it.

did you also got ghost update this monday?
No I did not get any update unfortunately. My medical expired on October 7th, 2020.

The only recent change I noticed in my profile is that they have stopped showing the progress bar and earlier on the top it used to say "some applications take more time as they are more complex"...yada yada, but it does not anymore. Now, it just says "we are processing your application and we will send you a message if we need more info" with no progress bar.

Now, I dont know if this is a good change or if it means nothing. :rolleyes:
 

caipsnotes

Champion Member
Jan 10, 2020
2,493
1,059
Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Buffalo, NY
Hi All,

My AOR is 28th April 2020 and based on GCMS Notes which I received on 27th Oct, my eligibility status is Review Required.
I tried contacting multiple times to CIC but since October eligibility status is same. I sent additional documents through WebForm though it was not asked.
Even after I sent documents no change in eligibility status.

Is there anyone with similar situation like Review Required on Eligibility.

@legalfalcon My file is stuck on Eligibility after my medical on 16th September, Could you please advice if RR is concerning for me and is there a way I can address it.


=== GCMS Notes ===
Assessments
Eligibility : Review Required
Security: Not started
Criminality : In Process
Medical : Passed
Info Sharing : Complete
-------------
Notes : 1
Label : EE Eligibility
Office : Centralized Intake Office
Text: A11.2- Case Processing Agent : Lock-in-date:2020-04-28--"***Name***"_EE CEC having analyzed this application based on the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file, I make the following recommendation.
----------------------A11.2
Review Required R87.1; CEC Minimum Requirements - Review Required Review Required for Duties on employment letter compared to NOC Website, Refer to EDOC: 374250501 Ready to Finalize RPRF : Complete
-----------------------------
Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS) CRS Score at Invitation to apply (ITA) 479 CRS points minimum score for round:467 CRS score at Application (APR) : 479 Total CRS Points Assessed : 429 /Verified CRS score : 429 I have reviewed the following for CRS points : Qualifying Job Offer : LMIA exempted under C12; Letter dated 2019-04-03 confirms employment offer of at least one year. eDOC#374250500 PA gained points as Married at ITA and APR PA gained points for 4 years Canadian Work Experience with "Company Name", edoc#374250137.
===========
Review Required on Eligibility is quite common. Some of the common reasons for Review Required are related to:
  • Proof of funds (POF).
  • Reference letter
  • Work experience
  • Employment verification
  • If you answered yes to any Statutory (Stat) Questions
Your Gcms Notes indicated "Review Required for Duties on employment letter compared to NOC Website"

Nothing to worry about, an officer will review it and make the final determination. More here https://bit.ly/37nCTJD
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
@legalfalcon my application is still in progress and I recently renewed my passport and sent a scanned copy through a web form but received no confirmation or reply. Is there any way by which I can make sure that the updated passport copy has been incorporated into my application ?
Thanks as always for the help,
It can take 2-4 weeks for an acknowledgement. However, if you have sent the scan no need to be concerned, it will be updated.

You can call IRCC and inquire if it has been added to your application.
 
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legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hi All,

My AOR is 28th April 2020 and based on GCMS Notes which I received on 27th Oct, my eligibility status is Review Required.
I tried contacting multiple times to CIC but since October eligibility status is same. I sent additional documents through WebForm though it was not asked.
Even after I sent documents no change in eligibility status.

Is there anyone with similar situation like Review Required on Eligibility.

@legalfalcon My file is stuck on Eligibility after my medical on 16th September, Could you please advice if RR is concerning for me and is there a way I can address it.


=== GCMS Notes ===
Assessments
Eligibility : Review Required
Security: Not started
Criminality : In Process
Medical : Passed
Info Sharing : Complete
-------------
Notes : 1
Label : EE Eligibility
Office : Centralized Intake Office
Text: A11.2- Case Processing Agent : Lock-in-date:2020-04-28--"***Name***"_EE CEC having analyzed this application based on the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file, I make the following recommendation.
----------------------A11.2
Review Required R87.1; CEC Minimum Requirements - Review Required Review Required for Duties on employment letter compared to NOC Website, Refer to EDOC: 374250501 Ready to Finalize RPRF : Complete
-----------------------------
Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS) CRS Score at Invitation to apply (ITA) 479 CRS points minimum score for round:467 CRS score at Application (APR) : 479 Total CRS Points Assessed : 429 /Verified CRS score : 429 I have reviewed the following for CRS points : Qualifying Job Offer : LMIA exempted under C12; Letter dated 2019-04-03 confirms employment offer of at least one year. eDOC#374250500 PA gained points as Married at ITA and APR PA gained points for 4 years Canadian Work Experience with "Company Name", edoc#374250137.
===========


had an old post on RR, re-posting it here.



Understanding “Review Required”

A lot of applicants see “review required” in their GCMS notes for eligibility. There are many theories floating around with regard to what “review required” means and if it is alarming.

Before I venture into explaining the significance, it is important to understand that each application goes through the following stages as per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and the regulations (Canadian Immigration Law):

R10 – Completeness Check
Criminality
Medicals
A11.2 – eligibility
Security

Out of the above, the most important stage is eligibility. This is also the most time-consuming stage because your documents have to be verified, evaluated and assessed to ascertain that you meet the eligibility criteria for the program you have applied (FSW / CEC / FTW). To stream line this process and make it easier for an immigration officer (decision making authority), all applications are first evaluated by case analysts or program assistants. They review the documents and summarize it in the GCMS. If they have any concerns with any document or want the immigration officer to carefully look into a specific document, they will flag it as “review required.” It is the content of the note that is important here. If the review required is for a specific document, while the summary of the note says that an applicant has met the eligibility, or “ready to finalize” it simply means that while the applicant has met the eligibility criteria, but the specific document needs a careful examination form the officer before promoting (eligibility pass) by the officer.

However, if there are concerns, there will be a review required for the eligibility, and there will be no text to the effect “ready to finalize” or pass. The note will specifically state job duties do not match, or the employment cannot be verified, or the number of years of work experience claimed cannot be verified. This is where an application can land in muddy waters. But the final decision rests on the immigration officer. He may override the decision of the analyst / assistant or go with the analysis of the analyst / assistant.

Even in cases where the analyst / assistant is of the opinion that the applicant has met the eligibility, and there is no “review required,” the officer can replace it with his own opinion. Though rare, but it does happen. This is why the eligibility is only passed when an officer conclusively marks the eligibility as passed.

Finally, there is “review required” for PoF. This is the most common in many applications. This is because, the financial and banking practices of each country are different. Eg. Fixed deposits are know as Certificate of Deposit (CD) in the US. Similarly, treasury bonds, mutual funds, stocks, and many other investment vehicles are there. If your PoF anything other than a bank deposit, it is more likely that it will be marked as “review required.” Also, IRCC does not go by day to day fluctuations in FOREX. Instead, the Canadian federal government issued a quarterly conversion rate for all FOREX vis-a-via CAD. If your PoF is in a foreign currency, then you may have “review required” for the officer to make a determination.

Just because you have “review required” does not mean that you hit the panic mode. Instead, read the context in which it is there. If there is a concern regarding a document, you can send a replacement document via CSE. The most common reasons for RR are:

1. Work reference letter without job duties
2. Work reference letters missing all the details requested by IRCC
3. If you submitted a letter from a colleague because you were unable to get one from your employer, but did not have a LoE on file, this too will lead to RR.
4. Not sufficient work experience in the primary NOC.
5. Inability to verify your employment as your employer details are missing.
 
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KayKay27

Newbie
Feb 5, 2021
6
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@legalfalcon Note 1 says my file doesnt meet the criteria for a reassessment. What does this mean?

Note 2 by the officer says my husband’s police certificate did not cover his entire stay in Cyprus however, he passed our eligibility.

His statement is not true because my hubby left Cyprus in May 2019 but the PC we uploaded covers up till 25 August 2020. Do I bother to mail them and explain that they made an error or do I leave it being that eligibility has already been passed?
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
@legalfalcon Note 1 says my file doesnt meet the criteria for a reassessment. What does this mean?

Note 2 by the officer says my husband’s police certificate did not cover his entire stay in Cyprus however, he passed our eligibility.

His statement is not true because my hubby left Cyprus in May 2019 but the PC we uploaded covers up till 25 August 2020. Do I bother to mail them and explain that they made an error or do I leave it being that eligibility has already been passed?
Can you post the exact note.